Trump's Lawyers should have known better

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  1. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    You are failing to follow the discussion. I've said nothing about keeping Trump off of the ballot. But you can't discuss the facts of the fake elector schemes, making you the fact denier here.
     
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    LOL. Says a person who does not believe in either the Constitution or the electoral college.
     
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    So, will you know be willing to admit that the huge majority of all of the indictments against Trump are bogus pieces of crap other than the ones for fake elector schemes?
     
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    You are engaging in another non sequitur. No surprise. We weren't talking about "keeping Trump off the ballot." But, hey, you have to project your lack of interest in facts onto others, I guess.
     
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    Unlike Trump and his supporters, I'm actually fine with both. There's no such thing as a current Trump supporter who supports either. Trump tried to violate both.
     
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    Another reading fail. No. It's okay to hold Trump to the rule of law, no matter how much it makes you upset. And no one tried fake elector schemes before. Trump perfected that "art."
     
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    To be honest, I must admit I thought we were in a different thread where we were talking about Trump not being on the ballot.
     
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    Tried means it is your opinion.
     
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    LOL. So, you aren't talking about just fake elector schemes. You're buying into all the left's BS, hook, line, and sinker. So, don't give me any more crap it is just about fake electors and nothing else.
     
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    No. Tried means tried. I don't agree with your position that we should just ignore what they actually attempted.
     
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    No. I'm very much talking about the ACTUAL fake elector schemes, which you've admitted you are unwilling or unable to discuss, having fallen for the schemes hook, line, and sinker. Some of us actually still like the whole Constitution thingy, and the ECA that accompanies it. Feel free to join us in that respect one day.
     
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    Great... show us these "laws" you claim... your law is not the Electoral Count Act of 1887, which was the law on books that Trump followed...
     
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    The laws I'm discussing are the Constitution and the ECA of 1887, which, no, Trump did not follow. And, if you are defending him, you are attacking it as well.
     
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    Trump followed the law on the books... He did nothing wrong or illegal. The Democrat had to immediately change that law to fit their agenda....
     
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    Trump followed the Electoral Count Act of 1887... he did nothing wrong or illegal.

    Why has it become illegal now? When it has not been in the past? Did the rules change.... oh wait ....yes the rules were changed suddenly by the Democrats.... Why is that...
    The Democrats had to change the rules to their liking after the fact to the law Trump followed that has been on the books for 135 years.... Electoral Count Act of 1887...
    OOOOOPPPSSSYYYY... looks like they change a law because they didn't like it was a law... If it was illegal why did the Democrats scramble to make something legal to be illegal?...
    Collins letter explains exactly the fact Pence could remand the votes back to the states... but they were changing it so it could not.... WHY CHANGE IT AT ALL? The fact they even messed with a 135 year old law shows it did not fit their agenda all of a sudden... How strange you think that they changed a law they thought was OK...

    "First, it reasserts that the constitutional role of the Vice President in counting electoral votes is strictly and solely ministerial. (because it did not prior) The idea that any Vice President would have the power to unilaterally accept, reject, change, or halt the counting of electoral votes is antithetical to our Constitutional structure and basic democratic principles. "

    https://www.rules.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Collins Testimony.pdf

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    What they are calling "fake" electors are alternate electors.

    [​IMG]https://www.hawaiifreepress.com › Articles-Main › ID › 26628 › 1960-Hawaii-Sends-Two-Slates-to-Electoral-College
    1960: Hawaii Sends Two Slates to Electoral College > Hawaii Free Press
    'When the mid-December date came for the Electoral College to meet — this year it's Dec. 14 — both Republican and Democratic electors sent their votes to Washington to be counted. Kennedy eventually was declared the winner in the Hawaii recount by 115 votes, but the two sets of certifications were...'

    When elections are disputed, both slates may be sent and Congress will determine which is the proper set to seat. In 1960, originally Nixon's electors were certified, but the Dems sent an alternate set in case Congress determined that they were the proper electors, and in fact Congress did end up seating the Dem's alternate electors.

    You can spot the lying fake news propagandists and the corrupt prosecutors by their use of the loaded term "fake electors" rather than the proper term "alternative electors".
     
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    You clearly haven't read the ECA, just as the dictator you are defending has read neither it nor the Constitution. Why should we ignore what these documents say, as you and Trump demand?
     
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    The Hawaii slate was under the seal of the state, approved by the executive of the state . . . you know, like the ECA says. The fake electors, and they were FAKE, and even people on Team Trump used that label, did NOT appear under the seal of the state (though some forged it) and were not approved by the executive of the state. Whoever told you they were the same thing was either one of the dumbest people on the planet or was hoping you wouldn't do any homework.
     
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    Judge rules John Eastman should be disbarred over efforts to overturn 2020 election
    Source: The Hill


    A California judge recommended disbarring a lawyer at the center of former President Trump’s efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election on Wednesday.

    State Bar Court Judge Yvette Roland found John Eastman culpable on 10 of the 11 counts filed by the California State Bar last year. The state bar sought to strip Eastman’s license to practice law in the state over “false and misleading statements” about purported election fraud and his role in “provoking” the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

    “It is recommended that John Charles Eastman, State Bar Number 193726, be disbarred from the practice of law in California and that his name be stricken from the roll of attorneys,” Roland wrote.

    Eastman can appeal Wednesday’s ruling, and the case could ultimately end up before the California Supreme Court.



    Read more: https://thehill.com/regulation/cour...arred-over-efforts-to-overturn-2020-election/
     
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    The washed up, alcoholic, blithering imbecile chimes in.


    Rudy Giuliani Says Earthquakes Targeting 'Communist' US States
    Source: Newsweek

    Published Apr 06, 2024 at 10:03 AM EDT

    'Rudy Giuliani has said "the communist states are getting earthquakes" and suggested this means "somebody's sending us a message" after a rare 4.8 magnitude earthquake hit the New York City tri-state area on Friday.

    Giuliani, a former New York City mayor and a close Donald Trump ally, made these comments during Friday's edition of his America's Mayor Live show which was broadcast on YouTube and X. He later said his remarks would lead "Marxist automatons" who "don't have a sense of humor" to conclude he was a conspiracy theorist.

    Friday's earthquake struck at 10:23 a.m. ET with its epicenter near Whitehouse Station in New Jersey, just miles from the Trump-owned National Golf Club in Bedminster, according to the federal U.S. Geological Survey (USGS). New York officials said there were no "major damage reports" in the city after the incident.

    Speaking on his show, Giuliani said: "We were in the communist state of New York and then we were in Connecticut and we just escaped all the earthquakes then we got to Massachusetts which probably had some earthquakes and we got to New Hampshire where there were no earthquakes which is telling me that somebody's sending us a message.

    Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/rudy-giuliani-earthquakes-targeting-communist-us-states-1887603
     

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