Trump's Lawyers should have known better

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  1. Noone

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    That you finally admitted your series of posts were duplicitous from the start.
    Every signature IS verified as the ballots are logged in.
    You have no way of knowing that, it’s pure supposition on your part.
    No it’s not, you don’t know what election security measures Georgia takes, more supposition on your part.
    Bullshit
    That’s why they are having a trial.
    Oh, but I have; we ALL have! 8)
     
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  2. dairyair

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    Pointless.
    As it has been explained to you and nauseum.
     
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  3. dairyair

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    Cases of fraud have shown Republican voters committed the most fraud.

    There's a bit of fraud in every election.
    The amount is so small it's insignificant.

    Fraud will never ever be ZERO.
    That's impossible.
     
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    Lol how is it pointless if when the envelopes are tallied they’re short the number of mail in ballots they have?
     
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    When?
    Where?
     
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    Because you are assuming they don’t have a procedure to deal with that possibility; which is ridiculous. Of course they do!

    And! I’d be willing to bet that “their” procedure is better and more efficient than your “signature audit of one full county”. 8)

    But, as you’ve explained, you don’t even believe that nonsense. Conjuring it up was a ruse from the beginning.
     
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  7. Curious Always

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    Yes. You think the election was rigged. You want proof. You have none, so you are asking for something you should be contacting state government's about. Ask THEM to prove to you their election was valid. I already believe it, because they all signed documents swearing the results were accurate.
     
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    You’re not addressing the argument. What you’re saying is tantamount to saying “We want to find financial crimes that Trump committed. We have looked at everything except look at his financial records and we didn’t find anything. So that means he’s clean.”

    What’s the FIRST question ANY honest person should ask? “Why the hell didn’t you look at his financial records if you’re looking for evidence of a financial crime?”

    If the only way to identify fraudulent ballots is to do an SV audit of one full county and you did everything BUT that, the first question any honest person should ask is why the hell didn’t you do that?
     
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    LMAO

    There is literally NO reason to do what you ask. The only people who care are a bunch of whiners on a message board who get their election fraud expertise from a guy who makes pillows.

    NOBODY buys it anymore. The people who PUSHED the phony narrative have recanted. Why are you hanging on?
     
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    Which is exactly what they are doing in the financial fraud trial going on right now.
    But it’s NOT!
    Any honest thinking person would recognize the fallacy that “the only way to identify fraudulent ballots is to do an SV audit of one full county” and immediately ask if a SV audit is so conclusive, why only one county? What IF the county you pick was “clean”? How could you conclude ALL the rest were “clean”?

    What makes a SV audit “the only way”. Why isn’t it possible the States election officials have anticipated the introduction of fraudulent ballots and have an equally valid solution that they used while processing the 2020 ballots AND determined there was no significant fraud?
     
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    if there is another way to identify fraudulent ballots that were successfully introduced into the count then provide it. But so far NOBODY can provide one, including you Mr Ive Worked At The Polls Since I Was A Toddler.
     
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    Bruh I don’t think you understand.

    Nobody is trying to redo the 2020 election. I’m arguing against the idea that the democrats didn’t cheat.

    There is not a critical thinking class or a debate club or ANY honest intellectual who wouldn’t laugh you out of a debate on this subject. Just claiming we won get over it is not an argument when the discussion is whether or not it’s possible for the democrats to have cheated EVEN though the results were certified.

    And the answer is indisputably yes.
     
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    There was no offer of military aid from the Kremlin Gremlin?
     
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    Uh, which Congressman has been charged with anything?
     
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    Actually, what it tells me is the prosecutor is lining up witnesses against a particular defendant or group of defendants.
     
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    You have NO evidence. Every recount, audit, double-triple-check found a few fraudulent ballots, MOSTLY favoring republicans. Do you even pay attention to all the lawsuits and actions taken to prove this election invalid due to excessive cheating?
     
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    Now you're just being insulting. Instead of getting nasty, why didn't you address this point; "the fallacy that “the only way to identify fraudulent ballots is to do an SV audit of one full county” and immediately ask if a SV audit is so conclusive, why only one county? What IF the county you pick was “clean”? How could you conclude ALL the rest were “clean”?"

    You have no ground to stand on because no matter how you "audit" one full county, it will prove NOTHING. That's why, as has been pointed out, statistical analysis is used to get a believable picture of the whole election.

    But here IS what the Georgia Secretary of State has posted on his website:
    "Elections Security
    The Georgia Secretary of State’s office is charged with administering elections and investigating allegations of election and voter fraud. I am proud that Georgia’s elections are among the most secure in the nation. We take every measure possible to ensure the integrity, security, and fairness of our elections process. Election and voter fraud undermine the very foundations of our great state and country, and will not be tolerated under any circumstances.

    If you witness questionable election-related activity, please click the link below and fill out the Stop Voter Fraud form. Your information will be forwarded directly to the Secretary of State’s Elections Division. Or, call our Voter Fraud Hotline at 877-725-9797. You may be contacted by an elections investigator for additional information.

    Thank you for your participation.


    Additional Resources

    Secure The Vote GA | From the Office of the Georgia Secretary of State >>"

    The link under "Additional Resources" leads to a page where you can fill out a form describing and fraud you've observed.

    The Point IS, no official is going to reveal their methods of ensuring election security. "I" am at ease and confident that whatever the States are doing it exceeds your "signature audit scheme". If you want to pursue it ... call the Voter Fraud Hotline and explain your concerns.

    And, btw, you are STILL far afield of the OP. :roll:
     
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    No. Like actually trying to steal the election.
     
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    How so?
     
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    1. Having people fill out fraudulent elector certificates.
    2. Pressuring Mike Pence to throw out valid electoral votes on Jan 6th
    3. Lying to state officials about fraudulent votes.
    4. Filing frivolous lawsuits in an attempt to get election results overturned. (His lawyers have been sanctioned for some of these lawsuits)
     
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    Through the fake elector plot. See the Chesebro memo and the Eastman memos. Or read up on the criminal cases regarding this fake elector plot.
     
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    Thanks for your worthless opinions.
     
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    So, you are admitting that every other charge but fake elector charges are made up BS?
     
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    So far as I can see, the charges center on the fake elector scheme. Funny how you don't seem to care that Trump tried to use made up BS to have himself installed as an unelected dictator.
     
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    Or look up Hamilton faithless electors... just change the names to a nefarious sounding name and all is bad
    I think it is plain Trump did nothing illegal... Electoral Count Act of 1887.... a 135 year old laws on the books..

    Democrats set the precedent when overthrowing democracy.... would you like to talk about it?? George Santyana : "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

    ""America needs 37 “faithless electors” from states Trump won""
    Looks like they will have to explain the “Hamilton electors,” a group of electors who have sworn not to vote for Trump.
    https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/15/opinions/faithless-electors-save-america-piro/index.html

    Meet the 'Hamilton Electors' Hoping for an Electoral College Revolt
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...oping-for-an-electoral-college-revolt/508433/

    The last-ditch push for the Electoral College to stop Trump, explained
    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...444/electoral-college-trump-hamilton-electors

    ""The faithless electors who opposed Donald Trump were part of a movement dubbed the "Hamilton Electors" co-founded by Micheal Baca of Colorado and Bret Chiafalo of Washington. The movement attempted to find 37 Republican electors willing to vote for a different Republican in an effort to deny Donald Trump a majority in the Electoral College and force a contingent election in the House of Representatives.""
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithless_electors_in_the_2016_United_States_presidential_election


    ""A group of so-called “Hamilton Electors” — nine Democrats and one Republican who borrowed the Found Father’s name in a nod toward his call for deliberation — has been working to persuade at least 36 other Republicans to ditch Trump, just enough to block his immediate election and send the contest to the House of Representatives.""
    https://www.politico.com/story/2016/12/electoral-college-rogue-electors-hamilton-232802
     

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