Trying to destroy Bill Cosby

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  1. Unifier

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    Dark, caustic internet trolls made this a public meme. And the media has raked him over the coals for exactly the reasons the OP has addressed. Because Cosby has been outspoken against the self-destructive victimhood narrative that is marketed to black America. If this had been Michael Eric Dyson (who wrote a book criticizing Cosby for his stances), the media would be framing these allegations as a racist white woman trying to bring down an innocent black man.

    The whole thing is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Cosby isn't Michael Jackson. Everybody knew Michael Jackson was weird. He made a spectacle of it. But Cosby is as clean as they come. Which is why I personally believe he was targeted. Toxic people take a special sick pleasure in tearing down things that appear wholesome. Because that wholesomeness - on some level - reflects their own nastiness. And it makes them uncomfortable.

    By cancelling Cosby's new show, NBC has now officially destroyed the one remaining hope of a quality family program returning to television for the first time in nearly a generation. To call that shameful doesn't even do it justice.
     
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    Bill Cosby is a serial rapist and you are a fool.
     
  3. antb0y

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    Come on, how do you know that? Do you know the man personally? Would he be the first celebrity with a "clean" public persona who did something detestable?
    I give Bill Cosby the benefit of doubt as long as I don't know the full story. But I won't reflexively shrug off the accusations as bull(*)(*)(*)(*) only because he might have said and stood for thing that I agree with.
     
  4. Injeun

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    First absurdity is/are accusations going back decades. Second absurdity is making these charges against an old man in his seventies. It's just not right. I also believe that there's truth to the idea that the liberal media is allowing or participating in attacking Cosby because he has broken step with the leftist counter culture movement, making him fair game for the public execution of his character.
     
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    Do you think all the women are lying about it?
     
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    The circumstantial evidence is overwhelmingly in his favor. Notice that all the accusers are white, and nobody is crying racism. Doesn't this seem odd to you in an era where even the most innocuous and mundane events are framed as examples of racial oppression?

    Additionally, I just read a new article a few minutes ago about a new accuser that stated:

    What kind of person takes two mysterious pills from someone they just met without asking what they are?
     
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    Oh, I agree. Which is why these feminists that promote the idea of a "rape culture" are the worst of the worst. Losers indeed.


    Just as I said to the anti-Zimmerman people and the anti-Officer Wilson people, I certainly hope you never get falsely accused of anything. Karma will not be kind to you.
     
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    Dude give it up. He's a Democrat and I highly suspect that he'd be highly insulted by you trying to associate him with Republicans. Furthermore, I don't know if he's guilty of anything and neither do you. This is just you taking the opportunity to smear Republicans by assuming Cosby is guilty and then trying to associate Cosby with Republicans. You are being a partisan .. let's just say that the kind of language I'd like to use to describe you isn't permitted here.
     
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    33 years ago I had finished high school and before starting university two (male) friends of mine and myself drove in an old Volkswagen Beetle and a Citroen 2 CV to Southern France, close to St. Tropez. We had a lot of fun, a cheap camping place directly on the beach and one not very large tent for all of us. During the day we were cooking "Sangria", which is red whine with fresh fruits, boiled up and then let brew for a few hours until it is drinkable at night. We had detached one car stereo and the battery and every night carried our "equipment" to the beach, made a small fire and drank. All nights many people came, some brought something to drink, something to eat or something to smoke.
    One night 2 Norvegian girls around 20 years of age joined us. After a few hours and drunken like we were they suddenly ran to the water, throwing away their clothing, announcing they want to make "nude swimming in the moonshine". The problems: 1. It was totally dark, no moon was shining. What they thought to be the moon was the reflection of our fire. 2. Even the Mediterranian Sea is a sea. 3. It is a bad idea to swim in the dark being drunken as hell. In summary: we chased them out of the water. They didn't make it back to the fire. Both "collapsed" in the middle of the beach and laid there drunken and naked. We didn't care so much because we were just a few steps away. Our problem began two hours later when we finished our party, had everything cleaned up and wanted to return to our tent, two drunken ladies, nobody knowing who they were and where they came from, lying naked on the beach. Because we couldn't wake them up we carried them to our tent, stowed them away and slept in our cars (who ever slept in an old Beetle or French 2 CV knows what that means). At the earliest morning, just after sunrise we ourselves, the complete camping ground and a large part of the French Cote d'Azur were woken up by two girls yelling and crying and shouting "what had been done to them and who had taken their clothing" and other things in Norvegian, which nobody understands except a few people from Norway. I am not the fastest in the morning but I remember one of my friends sayingt that nothing had been done to them and before he had finished his first sentence I saw them running away dressed with my and my friends sport trousers and shirt (When we carried them "home" we had "forgotten" to collect their clothing they had distributed over the beach in the darkness and during the night). After their "escape" I have never seen them again (and none of my clothings). I am quite sure that they think until today after passing out (there was nothing in the Sangria but Sangria. Many people underestimate its potency) something ugly must have happened. If they would tell anyone today, 33 years later, they had been raped 33 years ago, how could anybody prove the contrary? Nobody can. Something which didn't happen cannot be proven not to have happened. Therefore it would be themselves who would have the "burden of proof.". And filling memory gaps with imagination and fantasy, thats not a "proof".
    But thats what the alleged victims of Bill Cosby do: sorry, that's ridiculous.
     
  11. Injeun

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    If it wasn't important enough when it supposedly happened, it sure isn't now. Besides, I see no MO in the various stories, aside from the women partying with him. Sounds more like a conspiracy on their part than a serial rapist on Cosbys.
     
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    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6198586

    It's just getting worse for Cosby and you guys supporting him.
     
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    Realize that this is the 'post racial' period ushered in by Obama or basically the most racially divisive administration in recent history.

    Bill Cosby: Why Now?

     
  14. Injeun

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    It's not my foot in the fire. I still feel sorry for the old guy and for his wife.
     
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    He did a gig in Florida last night to a standing room only crowd of 2,000. He got a standing ovation when he came on stage and they loved everything he had to say. They gave him another standing ovation when it was over.

    I guess trial by innuendo and accusation isn't going over so well. :roll:
     
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    There are now 14 accusers........
     
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    Yeah, they all come out of the woodworks, one after the other...several DECADES after these events supposedly took place.

    Now that I've read the accounts, I could come out tomorrow and make a similar allegation. Would you then say that my allegation is "quite credible" because I don't personally know the "several women" who are also making accusations and because our stories are "strikingly similar"?

    It would seem that you are using very shaky criteria for determining credibility.
     
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    This same thing happened to me except they had me dress up as Margaret Thatcher in a nun's habit.

    I don't know you yet we report similar occurrences. They MUST be credible.
     
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    Your accusation wouldn't be credible. I don't think you were introduced to him in order to help you get into show business, like all the others. Plus, I don't recall any same sex accusations.

    I know the accusations against him are shocking and extremely disappointing. I too thought that he was a good guy.
     
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    More details that don't quite make sense...white women going to a black man in the 60s to get into show business? Not likely. Cosby, himself, was lucky to have a job during that time when black people in show business were as rare as dragon's teeth.

    Had the women pressed charges back then, Cosby would probably still be in jail today simply for being accused by a white woman. 40-50 years later? Nope, not buying it without some proof.
     
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    Some of you can sure make some odd leaps to support your view. Things are not looking good for Mr Cosby. As uncomfortable as it is, you're going to need to face the truth that he isn't the guy everyone thought he was.

    If these stories were all just a bunch of BS, the entertainment industry wouldn't have abandoned him like they have. that in itself should tell you something. I suspect these accusations aren't a surprise to people in that industry. Now that they are public, they had to do something.
     
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    This isn't a race issue as some narrow minded people are trying to make it.
     
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    What "odd leaps" have I made, specifically?
    He may or may not be. Neither you nor I know. You are simply assuming guilt as a first premise. You have your opinion on the matter and that's fine but to portray it as indisputable truth is dishonest at best.

    No offense, but to me your view looks like pure mob mentality. You've convicted the man on nothing but assumptions. 'His show was dropped so he must be guilty' doesn't have a shred of impartiality about it.
     
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    Specifically, your silly attempt at playing the race card.
     
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    He did it and even you know it.
     

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