Two doctors say that vaccinated people can make unvaccinated people sick

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  1. DennisTate

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    The following article looks genuine and if it is the wake up may be beginning in India.

    She should have known better....

    https://c19ivermectin.com/#early

    The vaccines would not have been approved for emergency experimental use if the truth had been told about Hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin.
     
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  2. Eleuthera

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    The precise mechanism for this transfer of the spike protein is still not completely understood.

    Certainly sexual fluids can transfer it, but what about breath? What about sweat?

    And don't forget the blood supply. It has been utterly contaminated with these lipid nanoparticles. Anybody receiving a blood transfusion during the last few months has effectively received those active ingredients.

    It's sad to say the Red Cross and others in charge of our blood supply have been complicit in spreading this around.
     
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    What he said
     
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  4. Bowerbird

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    Oh! Dear the QANON rabbit hole
     
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    No mate you are the one not following the scientific method which uses EVIDENCE BASED PRACTICE not hearsay, supposition and “Wot sum bloke sed”
     
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    even Trump did not choose those when it was his life on the line

    and Trump got the vaccine in January
     
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    Here's a similar article from the same site.
    https://michael-mannheimer.net/2021...per-verbreiter-der-toedlichen-spike-proteine/

    That page has the language-change option. If anyone can't change it, tell me and I'll copy and paste the whole thing.


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    Here's another page from the same site. It has the language-change option.
    https://michael-mannheimer.net/2021...r-covid-19-impfstoff-geplant-todbringend-ist/

    Some of those pages have the language-change option and some don't. I'm still trying to figure that site out.
     
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    So let me get this straight - many here believe that the virus is no worse than the flu and the vaccine should not be taken. But they believe this 'scientific info'?
     
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    I'm just a layman but I see different doctors and scientists saying completely different things. I'm not going to simply believe the mainstream as they are known liars*. The alternative version makes a lot more sense than the official version. I would bet that the alternative version reflects reality.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ure-such-events.569790/page-3#post-1072766173
    https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/which-officially-more-dangerous-covid-19-or-flu
    https://humansarefree.com/2021/07/u...se-reactions-now-a-top-50-cause-of-death.html
    https://vernoncoleman.org/articles/how-many-people-are-vaccines-killing

    I've seen charts with death rates that seemed to say that the number of deaths between covid and regular flu were similar. Covid spread a lot more quickly though.


    *
    http://politicalforum.com/index.php...at-the-lies-furiously.583345/#post-1072353798
     
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    https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/these-ten-things-will-happen-next-conspirators-tighten-screw
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    In the US there are still millions who are refusing to be vaccinated. And so there is talk of self-disseminating vaccines. These will spread from the vaccinated to the unvaccinated. No one in government cares that this is a breach of national and international laws. These so called vaccines have been available since 2018 and they are promoted as a way to spread a vaccine through the community without bothering to jab each individual. The enemy don’t care about the law. They don’t care about ethics. Reportedly, these spreading jabs have been supported by the Gates Foundation.
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    Yes you are a layman and the sad part is you see to be more willing to listen to other laymen on the internet who are basically talking bulltwang. We who are NOT a laymen have been trying to teach you the tools to work out what is verified fact and what is opinion based in conspiracy thinking.
     
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    This is a hotlink from the article in my last post.
    https://covidvaccinereactions.com/kimalberts/

    All those stories are anonymous. I wouldn't be surprised if they all turned out to be true though. I know of one case of a swollen foot after a vaccination and four cases of people's getting very sick for several days after getting vaccinated. I'll bet there are lots of cases that don't get reported so the statistics we hear are probably extremely low.
     
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    Yes they are anonymous - have you not considered they may be made up by the website owner? (Or at least some of them?) This is a website that has a heading “We are the control” and “disabled intagram accounts where they are admitting those accounts are now sock puppets
     
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    I can't find any info on him in English. If there is any info on who he is, it's probably in German.

    He seems to be somebody who collects info written by experts. Here are some examples.

    Top German mathematician: "85 percent of corona deaths are invented"
    https://michael-mannheimer.net/2021...thematiker-85-der-corona-toten-sind-erfunden/

    US virologist explains why the Covid 19 vaccine is fatal
    https://michael-mannheimer.net/2021...r-covid-19-impfstoff-geplant-todbringend-ist/

    British virologist: "All vaccinated will start dying in the fall"
    https://michael-mannheimer.net/2021...impften-werden-im-herbst-anfangen-zu-sterben/


    When I posted the above articles, they were in English. If they don't appear in English, you can change them to English at the upper left of the pages.
     
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    And tells you a lot - academics are usually easy to google as they produce research so it is telling that the only thing I could find suggests this person is a Neo Nazi

    http://www.legal-project.org/2980/michael-mannheimer-continuing-lawfare-odyssey-in

    which fits with his blog

    plus there is a donation request at the front of every page
     
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    Oh goodness, the foot soldiers for the official narrative are ubiquitous....
     
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    Any time a truther is having success at informing people that the official story is a big lie, there is a big attempt at damage-control. People have called me a neo-Nazi and I think that white supremacists are morons.
     
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    So why are you listening to someone on line who, in all probability is a neo nazi and not only that has a clear financial inrpterest is spreading lies about vaccines?
     
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    I haven't studied his works deeply but I can't disagree with anything I've seen so far. I haven't seen anything to make me think he's a white supremacist.

    I think what he's saying about vaccines is the truth. He's getting his info from the doctors I've already listed earlier in this thread.
     
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    I could ask you the same question, but you won't answer. Buying into the lies of Fauci and Pfizer is how your worldview is formed. The injections are toxic and dangerous, but you buy into and defend the medical industrial claims, you proudly defend the lies of proven liars.
     
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    You aren't qualified to study or assimilate coherent information.

    You aren't qualified to have a relevant opinion. You know nothing about any subject you ever post on and don't have any idea what is and what is not bullshit.

    What you think is based on what you automatically believe and it is always the opposite of mainstream regardless. And once again, you are not qualified to assess, one way or the other.

    Bullshit. You have made ZERO attempt to verify anything by the tiny number of doctors you automatically and gullibly believe, or his interpretation of their opinions which you have made no attempt to cross check. You are a repeater of garbage and always have been.
     
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    Neither you or any of the other useless conspiracy theorists have failed to prove any lies.

    MEH!!

    And you buy into and defend the bullshit opposing them from the crazy fringe minority.

    The irony. You haven't proven any lies, spout them yourself and refuse at all costs to rationally discuss anything relating to them.
     
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