Two men connected to Giuliani's Ukraine efforts charged with funneling foreign money into US electio

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    So they are connected to Trump via Giuliani who is Trump's alleged personal attorney, so Parnad and Fruman are connected to Trump.!

    Did I get that right??
     
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    Why does it matter that they referred to him as Ind 1? It's not uncommon not to name uncharged people in indictments....it is however the same office that highlighted in teh sentencing memo of Cohen that Trump was a victim of Cohen.

    This is Trump's DOJ....he is the chief law enforcement officer of the Federal Govt...he is prosecuting and has been investigating these guys since at least early 2018.

    It's rather silly to claim that someone is connected to other people, because their attorney knows them. Am I connected to every nurse that my doctor might speak to? How about everyone my plumber calls? Or when I take my car to the shop, and my mechanic calls a guy to get a part I will need...am I connected to him? If that guy gets a DUI later that day, is that somehow come back to me?

    The logical flaws in the desperate dems reaching is mindblowing....
     
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    Wait a minute .! They were getting money from donations and now there are reports that Russian money came in and the money they got went to Trump's campaign. So they are working for the benefit of Trump.
    Right? They are working to benefit Trump.!
     
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    Barely knew them, just got coffee right! Lol
     
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    In a letter to House Democrats last week, attorney John Dowd—last seen representing Trump in connection with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation—wrote, “Please be advised that Messrs. Parnas and Fruman assisted Mr. Giuliani in connection with his representation of President Trump.” This was apparently intended to shield Parnas and Fruman: Dowd argued that some of what Democrats sought from them was protected by attorney-client privilege
     
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    Their lawyer says they were working with Rudy on trump matters. A lawyer who used to be trumps lawyer btw
     
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    You posted another thread on the same subject. The Search Function can be a Useful Tool in avoiding Duplicate Threads and Redundant Topics.
     
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    Sure ! Did you know that Big Foot is the leader of Deep State.
     
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    Ha ha LEV, IGOR, & GIUILIANI LLC

    'Serving the New York and Florida criminal community since 2016. We know how to defend criminals because we are one. '
     
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    Hey guys get this!! The two Giuliani criminals, guess who showed up at the jail where they where booked?? None other than hold on now..........Manafort's Lawyer Kevin Downing the lawyer for former Trump's campaign manager.

    So some members here claim that the Gouiliani's Two Turds have no connection to the Trump gang! Manafort was campaign manager. Ha ha

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...ts-in-court-today-because-of-course-they-did/
     
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    Ha ha ha hey you is ok for a liberal!,, LOL!,,
     
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    So the man who spent decades playing the system became POTUS and the continued to play the system?

    I never would have imagined such a thing.
     
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    No, you are just grasping for straws by looking at the fact that two known associates of Trump's attorney are arrested in connection with the behavior that resulted in Trump's imminent impeachment.
     
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    Except that Individual 1, in this case, directed Cohen to commit a felony.

    And you still have yet to provide any quotation from the sentencing memo that Trump was a victim of his attorney.

    Trump is also in charge of the FBI and the CIA and the State Department, but all of those agencies apparently, according to trump, engaged in deep state actions that are completely unrelated to trump.

    Now you see two associates of his personal attorney arrested for their behavior that is directly linked to the behavior that is causing Trump's imminent impeachment and you are trying to pretend that trump is above board by arresting (when he did not) his corrupt associates.

    All of your attempts at making an analogous situation fail miserably.
     
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    Biden was never going to get nominated. The only reason he was vice president was because Obama had to stand next to an old white guy to get elected. It will be interesting to see who Warren picks for her running mate.
     
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    They were illegally getting money into the 2020 Trump campaign.
     
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    So you remember how the talking point for the at least 3 days out of the last three weeks has been that Trump was only concerned about corruption in Ukraine. If that's true (lol), why didnt trump mention either of these two guys during his phone call with Ukraine?

    I mean "he" had been investigating them for a year, right? And they did corrupt things in Ukraine, right? And neither of them are political rivals either!

    Just so strange that he decided to only name his chief domestic political rival for a crime that no one in his DOJ was investigating.
     
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    Investigating corruption is only valid when democrats do it.
     
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    Why would he? The are Giuliani’s clients.
     
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    Having an attorney create a contract is not a felony

    I have

    He is, and no he blamed the corrupt Obama admin
     
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    Because his admin had taken care of them, they were in FL.

    He only mentioned Biden because of Biden’s recent bragging..he simply ask what happened with all that. I get you and the dnc don’t want to know the truth, but come on, you’re making a mountain out of a mole hill over that. Moreover Biden is not his chef political rival, he doesn’t have the nom. And just because someone is running for office doesn’t exempt them from liability for their actions
     
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    Ok...so? A lawyer is allowed to ask people for help...just like a doctor, mechanic, or anyone for that matter
     
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    Sounds like they worked for Rudy. Nope, the entire letter is merely stating that they were represented
     
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    Except where it says they were helping trump
     
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    It will be interesting at the debate if the other candidates allow him to intimidate them too like he did Ukraine as his son was being paid millions for nothing.
     

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