Two perspectives of a Shooting

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Small Town Guy, Jul 9, 2016.

  1. dequ1

    dequ1 New Member

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    how old are his children? If any child is older than 5 years old, then he would have been married for a much longer time than 5 years. Did he get married at 17 years of age?
     
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    both of his unlawful weapons carrying occurred in 2009. He has never been cited after that. This was 7 years ago.
     
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    he began carrying weapons the same year he started carrying drugs..
    10/12/09 – Illegal carrying of weapon, marijuana possession
    8/13/15 – Failure to register as a sex offender
    4/08/16 – Failure to register as a sex offender
    6/14/16 – Ecstacy and marijuana possession

    from 2009 to 2016, he had no citations for drugs or weapons and upon his last citation for drug possession, he was not cited for concealment.

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    i would have to say that he was improving from his earlier years of aggravated and battery charges.

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    we know the past records for this person.. Would you know any past records about the police who were involved as to length of time they served in this current pd. their past pd experience. How long they have been on the police force altogether?

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    were they patrol or were they other ranks?

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    it's obvious, if the story is correct, that the police officer who shouted, 'he has a gun'.. would have been informed by the homeless man, that he had a gun. if a gun was on his person, then the 'reaching' for the gun can be looked at.

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    if he was in any way a regular day to day person, then chances would be that the gun and drugs would be found together.
     
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    allow me to retell a story i went through...

    i used to live on a corner apartment. The sidewalk parking in front of the apt. was a 'no parking' stretch for about 25 or so feet. However, many cars would park there as well as mopeds and bicycles. Some cars would be ticketed and others would not. I guess it depended on luck. Well one day, a friend was over and he parked there. He was in my apt. for about 30 or 45 minutes. I began to proceed to get his keys to move his car out of the no parking zone. When i got to the curb, which is right in front of my front door, a police car was across the street, parked and was taking out his citation papers I got into the car, turned on the vehicle and was going to re-park the car in another zone. He addressed me to stop, that I had to wait for his citation papers so to sign it. I told him that the vehicle was not too long in this zone and that I was in the process of moving it. He said it was too late since he had already begun penning down the citation. He went on to say that he parked there for over 5 minutes, was honking his horn and since noone came out to move the vehicle, he thought the citation would be proper. I asked him how long he had been there again. He said that he was there long enough since neighbors had 'called' in the improper parking. I asked him if I was hearing correctly. He said yes. He said that many neighbors were making a loud noise regarding an improper parked car and that he had personally taken the calls. He was in the police car. How anyone had his direct police car phone number, I'm not sure. He goes on to say that people had called him multiple times about this car and that was why he came. The car was not blocking any other driveway, car, entries, or exits. Like I said, that little stretch of sidewalk from the front of my apt. to the end of the street was no more than 25 or so feet. It did not block cars from coming onto that street nor blocking any cars trying to leave that street. My point is this. A newly uniformed police with badge and ticket roster and car, was so unwilling to let a person re-park the car, told me that he had personally answered calls about this improperly parked car and said that multiple persons called. To me that story was just too far stretched, even coming from a police officer. He must have not been more than 27 years old.
     
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    so, going back to the killing of a person. what were the backgrounds of the police who were involved? Were they new rookies or were they on the force for many years so as to, at least, know the neighborhood they patrolled? If they were regular patrol, they would surely have seen this person around..

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    a person selling dvd's in front of stores is usually somewhat of a regular at doing this sort of thing.

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    baton rouge is Southern cooking, isn't it?

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    i wonder if those police officers liked 'creole styled' cooking.
     
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    and so from 1 incident involving local police and local residents, stirred up 4 snipers in Dallas, Texas. A totally different part of the U.S.
     
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    http://www.city-data.com/city/Baton-Rouge-Louisiana.html

    Are these figures even correct to the population in Baton Rouge?

    Population in 2014: 228,895 (100% urban, 0% rural). Population change since 2000: +0.5%

    Males: 107,622 (47.0%)
    Females: 121,273 (53.0%)


    With 228,590 people, Baton Rouge is the 2nd most populated city in the state of Louisiana out of 473 cities. But watch out, Baton Rouge, because Metairie with 140,074 people and Shreveport with 197,204 people are right behind you. http://www.louisiana-demographics.com/baton-rouge-demographics


    Wouldn't this be considered a small city?
     
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    And remember, Baton Rouge is the Capitol of Louisiana.

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    I'm just saying. small cities usually have people who know others in the city.
     
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    Are not your questions a bit odd and Irrelevant and out of respect for the dead, somewhat Irreverent ????

    Just for understanding, when the yell: "He got a Gun!!!" If an Officer's finger is on the trigger, POW ! POW ! POW ! POW !! It is a reflex action, not a conscious action.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Going back to some of my original comments so as to clarify, I said:
    "This incident is another example...IMHO of how the media uses the power of the press to vilify cops and extol the virtues of the criminal."

    Then I said in response to another poster:

    "I really don't know at this point if the cops were justified in using deadly force but for most of the main stream media that great father who was simply selling CDs was murdered there by feeding the narrative being used by those who swallow their garbage whole."

    So basically my OP is an indictment of the media because I believe they are complicit IMHO in the death of the Dallas POs, and the other side is that those who grasp the MSM messages without looking at all sides are Koolaide drinkers. Don't like my use of Alton.....insert Michael Brown I don't care.

    Funny how Baltimore is turning out the way it is, but the MSM sure got their licks in and caused alot of damage to hard working citizens.
     
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    Again, it may not be a matter of use of force persay, lots of people have been shot when a police officer pulled his taser out to taser someone, and the suspect was shot because it was NOT a taser, it was a sidearm.

    Also, if someone yells "He has a gun" while Police Officers are holding someone at gun point, a Police Officer may shoot the suspect, it is an subconscious or reflex reaction, I have seen it happen.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    None of which actually addresses the number of instances of police officers committing serious civil and constitutional rights violations, and facing no consequences for their actions.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The incidences of them being prosecuted do actually address your issue though.
     
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    Not when such instances are the exception rather than the rule.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well no worries then, they are not the exception.
     

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