U. California students remove offensive American flag from 'inclusive' space

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  1. robini123

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    Things like this are allowed in a free/ish society. I do not have to like the actions of others, but so long as said actions cause no harm to others then what place is it of mine to raise a fuss? Their opinion have value just as yours and mine do. Would you rather a totalitarian government or a theocracy?
     
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    Celebrated heavily in my area (MI) and in my wife's family(they are Mexican). They celebrate by getting plastard and arguing once drunk lol. But they do celebrate.
     
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    Do you really expect people to believe you when you say stuff like this? You really think people will buy that you knew the political beliefs of most of the students you went to college with?

    Also, what you're saying is complete BS. The sciences at every college I've been to (6 total - 1 as a student and 5 as an employee) have been dominated by people who have a much more conservative way of thinking.

    The only thing you said that's true is that a lot of international students go into the STEM fields...this is very true.
     
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    That's what I thought when I saw this on the Drudge report earlier today. Matthew Guevara, probably an anchor baby who's majoring in Latino studies and took out a government student loan.
     
  5. Alwayssa

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    We are not talking about conservative way of thinking, but conservative politics. and political positions or viewpoints. You seem to have missed out on that part of the argument that both HB Surrfer made and I replied to.

    BTW, a conservative way of thinking does not mean having, adhering to, or believing in conservative political positions.
     
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    I disagree as did most of the Democrats of his time who opposed his tax cuts. He was a fiscal conservative. That's history... no matter how you try and sell it.

    MOST DEMOCRATS WERE AGAINST KENNEDY'S TAX CUTS. He was no Liberal.
     
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    But it still has nothing to do with the old territories of mexico, the only true reason it is even celebrated here is for liquor sales lol. Most people dont even know what they are celebrating and that even includes many younger Mexican kids. It's not really that important either since the outcome of this day was very short lived and basically the only shining moment of the French invading Mexico, in which the French actually ruled Mexico after this day for a short period of time. The thing is Mexico has a seriously (*)(*)(*)(*)ty war history, we lost to everyone and that is why that ONE victory is so important to the state of Puebla.

    Yes it was a battle to remember, outnumbered but A LOT and fighting with minimal supplies and by a friggin miracle they got it done. But in the long term it was really meaningless lol. But as far as it being important to the rest of the country or to the United States..... yeah nobody truly gives a two (*)(*)(*)(*)s other than another reason to drink a beer and have a taquila shot.

    BTW, is Dia De Los Muertos ;) And Diez y Seis is my dad's birthday lol.

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    It's celebrated heavily everywhere in the USA, but not so much in the country of Mexico. We have fun with it two, but we know the meaning lol.
     
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    What you are not understanding is that Cinco de Mayo is much like Saint Patrick's Day. Both days are celebrated and both represent a cultural heritage that is celebrated here.
     
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    At least people know what SPD is and it's not used by the Irish to make a political statement and tell people their USA apparel need not apply. If you don't wear green on St. Patties day the worst you get is a pinch, if you do not comply with cinco de mayo they want to start fights and riots.

    And again, cinco de mayo holds very little popularity in Mexico, most don't give a damn.
     
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    in 1963, Democrat did NOT equal Liberal.
     
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    I was really hoping they'd get around to bulldozing the anteater.

    The college left is increasing taking on all of the negative qualities of puritans but none of the good ones.
     
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    Most people do not know the history behind Saint Patrick;s Day. They do know that a parade will happen, it is a time to drink beer, lots of it, some local politician will turn the "water green," and people will wear green for good luck. Yet, there is a specific hisoty behind the day that goes back some 1000 years or so.

    As for Cinco De Mayo, it is cultural heritage that gets its significance here and was celebrated heavily, promoted heavily, in the early 1960's with the Chicano movement. Despite the fact that the day is not celebrated in Mexico does not negate the fact that the day is viewed as a cultural icon rather than a historical event.
     
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    I did.

    You deflected.

    So... its the conservatives fault, that these liberal students are idiots?

    See how stupid that sounds?

    If you consider assigning blame to other people, rather than holding morons accountable, then yes it was a valid point. But it wasn't, because your lack of applying logical accountability and responsibility, and rather blame OTHER people for these morons, all the while actually calling them morons...

    you're deflecting.

    Thanks for playing.
     
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    I see you did not get it, but then again when someone has to explain a thought to another you are nearly always assured that the person never will get it. I did see that you THINK you know what I was saying and as usual you add another of your failed attempts to explain what I "really meant" based on your ignorance. Sorry, I do not have pop-up pictures to help you grasp the concept presented, it probably would also be a waste of time, so back to whatever it was you were doing.
     
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    Blah blah blah. "I can't defend my ridiculous deflection, so I will just tell you that you are too stupid to understand my stupidity".

    Still more doubling down on stupidity. You said it. Not me. You blamed other people for these peoples ignorance, all the while failing to actually discuss the topic of these students ignorance and ridiculous position.

    Blah blah blah. Arrogance non-sense, because you can't defend nor explain your ridiculous comment.

    When ever you feel like actually defending your stupid comments and providing a logical explanation for it, you let me know. Right now, all you have done is act like a 12 year old.
     
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    I go to the local celebrations here. They're fun, and the kids have a good time. I don't attribute much political weight to them, even though there are a few cranks like the La Raza racists who continually try to turn it into a demagogue venue of some sort; they're mostly ignored by regular folks, who just want an excuse to party and dress up.
     
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    Nothing to add I see. Noted
    Go play in your room.
     
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    Good. The 'Social Ecology' majors lose one. I'll have to look up the requirements for that degree; it sounds suspiciously like some Nazi program for 'cleansing' somebody or other, which makes it just about perfect for a lot of scrutiny by Federal auditors.
     
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    Yes, well, the problem with how the La Raza types try to peddle the history behind is that there were few actual Mexicans residng north of the Rio Grande or any of those states, maybe some 3,000 or less, excluding Spanish priests and a few indian converts and a few handfuls of soldiers manning garrisons at small forts here and there, so Mexico's claims were always ridiculous, unless somebody wants to pretend that somehow Mexico was entitled to claim all former Spanish possessions in North America, just because they said they did. Few Mexicans at the time of winning independence would be caught dead north of Tampico in those days, so the Mexican government didn't bother wtih colonizing anywhere. Los Angeles for instance had a population of around 200, mostly related to the fort there.
     
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    Find a tax pamphlet from that era and you'll find that that '92%' was only applied to 50% of capital gains, which had an automatic deduction of 50%, after all other deductions for everything imaginable, including such things as solid gold faucets in the executive washrooms and the like, so it wasn't a big tax cut at all, just window dressing.

    A (*)(*)(*)(*) storm he also started, and then backed down from.

    See 'JFK and missiles in Turkey' for how he provoked that himself and again had to back down, encouraging the Soviets to increase exponentially the 'Kruschev Doctrine' and volence all over the planet. He's not the only one to screw up like that; Reagan did the same thing in Lebanon, and showing that weakness after bloviating all about how he 'sending the Marines' in and then ran also led to massive escalations and encouraging the animals there to kick off numerous slaughters, same with Obama's deliberately snubbing Israel in his 'Peace Tour' about month after being inaugerated kicked of far worse violence and mayhem in the region.

    LBJ all the way. Kennedy had nothing to do with getting any of that passed; it was Johnson and Sam Rayburn of Texas that put those deals through, and after Rayburn's death mostly Johnson and liberals he mentored, like Humphrey and a dozen others, who carried the water for that and the Voting Rights Act. Stop reading all the Camelot Mythology pumped out by the family PR hacks; the Kennedys were all about the Kennedys, period. Still are.

    JFK, like several other Presidents, would have been much better if he had just stuck to posing for the cameras, banging movie starlets, popping pills, and doing nothing at all.
     
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    The embargo has been lifted? When? First I heard of this.
     
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    Just tell the La Raza jerks they should be thanking the USA, because without our support there would not be any mention of the events of Cinco de Mayo.
     
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    You're joking right?

    For starters, when Mexico seceded from Spain, it essentially took over and maintained the establishments that Spain originally set. Sante Fe, El Paso, San Antonio, and a few others were maintained and colonized in the 18th century. And under the Constituion of 1824, the Mexican government established a federal system, similar to the United States, for civic and judicial order. It was also wahy Stephen F Austin was allowed to bring some 300 families to Texas in order to increase their colonial efforts despite the fact that the government didn not trust the government of the United States and its ?manifest destiny" doctrine at the time.

    The rest of your post is pure junk.
     
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    Lol ... another one who doesn't know their history. So you think Mexico, a former province, had a solid claim on all former Spanish territory in the western hemisphere, eh? Fascinating stuff, I see you left out that Mexico went through some 35 or so governments from its secession to the 1850's; real stable place it is. Not that your rant has anything to do with what I said, or disputes it either.
     
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    I actually have a copy of a 1913 1040 tax return and instructions, 1942 Form 1040, 1952 W2, and a 1960 Form 1040 and a set of instructions.

    The top marginal tax rate was applied to taxable income over $1 million dollars at that time. For capital gains, there was a 50% exclusion on certain capital gains for personal income tax, but that was rare. That exclusion was eliminated in the TRA 1986 law and replaced with the qualified small business stock exclusion.

    However, if a person had both ordinary income and capital gaines, they were to use the capital gains tax worksheet to calculate their tentative tax. And that process has not changed.
    When it came to the Bay of Pigs, JFK did listen to his generals and they were the onces who convinced him of the success of that mission. The problem was that the CIA had got their info all wrong and there was no massive uprising that the CIA was counting on.

    The missiles in Turkey were placed there during the Eisehhower administration after Turkey joined NATO. Those missiles were already obsolete. However, the secret quid pro quo acceptance for the removal of those missiles is what saved us from WW3. And thank god the meida did not get a hold of that little piece of info.

    After the Cuban missile crisis, both the United States and the Ussr establish our own proxy wars doctrine. We would establish regimes through coups to make sure they were anti communist while the soviets did the same through the use of supplying arms and money to communist rebel groups. That happened in the 1960's, 70's and 80's. It is also why the United States foreign policy is viewed with much skepitism today and in the past.

    JFK and LBJ were astute politicians, but used different methods to achieve their political agenda. LBJ was a strong, bully tuype while JFK used the meida, television, and back room deals to get the job done. In the end, JFK would have signed the 1965 Civil rights Act, the 1964 Civil Rights act if he was not assassinated in 1963. Both had the same goal and both got what they wanted by convincing the American public. JFK was just much better than LBJ.
     

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