U.S. Muslims fight back against state bids to ban sharia

as I said, we should ban ALL religious law in our courts, no ten commandments, no sharia law, no religious law period

a bill should not only address one religion, it should address all religion at the same time

 

Margot asked you a simple question:

and, rather than answer it, you dodged it by saying:

and I stepped in and asked you:

and you continued to dodge the original question:

I have lived in the middle east. I know all about sharia. I certainly don't need any lessons from you, sonny. The lady asked you a question: "And how it sharia arbitrations in civil matters different from Jewish beth din court arbitrations?" Why not be a big boy and just answer it?

Apparently, you are unaware that many civil legal matters in America are handled by arbitrators that are allowed, by our justice system, to use religious principles to arbitrate and adjudicate civil matters between willing participants. Those "religious courts" are a fact of life here in America right now. Muslims who want to be able to have their civil disputes with other muslims - if both parties are willing to have their case decided thusly - would prefer a muslim cleric to use the tenets of sharia law to arbitrate their issue. How does that harm you, or our justice system, in the least....and how is that any different that the adjudication according to mosaic law that is done for American Jews by beth din courts all the time, or by catholic mediation centers throughout America all the time?

 

The main issue with Sharia so far as I've seen is that a lot of Muslims come to the West to escape Sharia.

In principle, the allowance of Sharia as an alternative law system still subject to secular law is voluntary.

In practice, there is the possibility of developing enclaves where Muslim communities implement Sharia Law that technically still is voluntary, but it ends up being an environment where all of the Muslims in the area are heavily pressured into using the Sharia system for all disputes.

There is a little bit of this issue with Jewish systems among orthodox Jews, but Sharia has a greater potential for this, because it tends to be harsher in a lot of respects.

So, in theory, Sharia could be allowed without problems, but in practice, it could lead to some rather disturbing problems within the Muslim communities here.

The irony of all this is that it's not really about what could happen to non-Muslims. There's really no rational reason to believe that Sharia could ever take over here. The valid concerns are for Muslim immigrants themselves.

 

If they want Sharia Law go back and live in the ME.

 

nothing wrong with sharia as long as they abide by the laws in place they are protected by freedom of religion

conservative christians and sharia muslims share alot of commonalities and this shouldn't be a problem

 

I remember already asking this question elsewhere, but do answer - can a good Muslim be a good American?

 

if they are a good American that happens to also be Muslim.. the answer is obviously yes

same as would be true of a good American that happens to be of any religion

 

The difference is most live in the 17th century and when push comes to shove they side with the radicals and a lot of the Mosques in America are run by radical Iman's. Kind of like Barry's Church he sat in for 20 years but worse.

 

that is unfair conservative christians live in the 17th century with their bans on contraception and homosexual marriages, the sharia muslims can assimilate in liberal progress just as the christians do

 

there are many bad Christian Churches too, not sure that would change the argument that a bill should address all religions equally or not at all though

 

There is no bill.

 

But Muslims in this country who live in the 17th century are not concerned with birth control. They have killed their offspring, beheaded their wives and became terrorists.

By the way Muslims hate homosexual's.

 

REAL CHRISTIANS AND REAL AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES ALWAYS BEAR IN MIND, even if a person defending the indefensible "jews" doesn't seem like one, s/he is a "jew". They have always swarmed our forums, chatrooms, bulletin boards, and social networks, ever on the lookout for the antisemite - anybody who criticizes the "jew" in any way. Most of them ARE EMPLOYED by mossad (the CIA's parent company).

AMERICAN TROOPS ARE IN THE MIDDLE EAST BECAUSE THE "JEWS" WHO OWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE WANT A BILLION MORE INTEREST-PAYING CUSTOMERS, THE MUSLIMS.

The "jews" are making up or engineering excuses to invade these countries so they can replace all the NON-INTEREST-CHARGING Islamic banks with Fed-like banking mafias THAT MAKE THE "JEWS" MONEY.

Also, the "jews" are using their media to train Americans to hate SHARIA LAW, not because it gives secondary status to women ("jews" couldn't care less about anyone's status but their own) but because it prohibits the collecting of interest, the "jews" main purpose in living.

SHARIAH LAW CAN ONLY BENEFIT MR. AND MRS. AMERICA. Wouldn't you rather just pay a fee for your mortgage rather than 50% in interest over the life of the loan? IT'S A NO-BRAINER.

The "jews" confuse being filthy rich with being smart. So smart that us mortals can't possibly see what they're up to. But you don't have to be smart to be born into a rich, psychotic family. STOP BELIEVING THE JUDEO-COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA!!! "JEWS" ENGINEERED 9/11 (http://tinyurl.com/JewsAmericasWorstEnemies) - NOBODY'S BENEFITED FROM IT MORE THAN THEY HAVE.

DEAN BERRY MINISTRIES: "When you get tired of fighting the truth."

 

then there is no issue... though if the states do draft a bill it should include all religions

 

Ahhh, a Jew hater.

 

is this for real?

 

LOL Spare us your new bigoted definition of 17th century values when most Christians don't oppose contraception and the vast majority of Americans don't agree with your backward beliefs on marriage and have proved it with 33 votes and ZERO losses.

 

more dodging. post 77 awaits your reply.

 

and what would you tell American jews who willingly submit their civil cases to arbitration by beth din courts? go back to Israel?

 

I don't remember having any trouble with them. They can stay.

 

who died and made you god?

 

No one, just my opinion. God is no longer allowed in our society anyway. The atheists have drove him out. You're prolly one of them.

 

I am a former UCC minister... now fully retired.

The point being... if our country has long allowed members of the Jewish faith to seek mediation for civil issues in front of rabbinical courts that use mosaic law as their guide, and Christian citizens to seek mediation with Christian arbitrators who use the Bible as THEIR guide, why would you be against having muslim citizens willingly submit their civil legal issues amongst themselves to courts with muslim clerics presiding that used sharia law as THEIR guide?

Can you honestly answer that in a way that does not overtly betray your own bigotry and fear?

 

Who is banning contraceptives? And why are you spreading lies?

 

Nope, Because Islam is evil and they are creeping toward a Caliphate.