U.S. Navy Destroyer Armed With Tomahawks Arrives Off Syrian Coast, "Harassed" By Russian Warplanes

A prudent assessment.

There are a couple of things that itch me a bit about it all:

- Was there just civilians killed by the chems? No Islamist "freedom fighters" at all? If that's the case, why would Assad attack unarmed civilians? It's not like the said civilians have anythinbg to say: They just happen to be under the (quite authoritative) regime of the Islamists in Douma. Why would this make them "surrender" - they already have.

IMO, it isn't impossible that it was the Islamist rebels themselves who set the chems up, if at all. They are usually not above killing civilians (althought in usually more elaborate ways).

- Another thing is; Isn't in convenient that this attack happens just as Trump announced his (rational) intention of leaving Syria? What would Assad have to gain with prolonging the US' unrequited stay in his country? And I don't buy "because he is stupid", because clearly he aint. Something in this only makes sense if the false flag operation is taken seriously.

Russia just called for a UN investigation into the event.

 

Would you give your life to take assad out? You life is meaningless, and since you are so pro war, surely you would give it in exchange for perpetual war for perpetual profits. No? Why am I not surprised? If the universe does slant towards justice, only our american war mongers will die in the nuke exchange. Incinerated so we do not have to worry about the decomposed bodies, creating disease. Truth is, if I could die in order to get rid of your team, and being old, I would do that. In order to save my kids, grand kids and great grand kids. What would you die for?

 

What’s your solution? Appease? Let putler do what he wants? This was tried already almost 80 years ago and we all know how it ended.

 

Another thing - use of chemical weapons could be putler testing world reaction to use of WMDs on small scale. Russia develops nuclear weapons with small yield. So, the reasoning for using chemical attack that directly kills a few hundred and sickens a few thousand could be to see how world reacts to such causality rate. You use chemical weapons today that kills a few hundred people and sickens a thousand, if you are not punished then why not use a 1kt nuclear bomb. Casualty rates will be similar but destruction greater.

 

LOL, really no Russians killed or russian assets destroyed?LOL, Putinka awfully quiet about....face it, the russkis attacked and got clobbered,LOL, pretty much everyone knows, theres no denying!

 

Why Clinton's plans for no-fly zones in Syria could provoke US-Russia conflict
Many in national security circles consider the risk of a confrontation with Russia to be severe: ‘I wouldn’t put it past them to shoot down a US aircraft’
-> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/25/hillary-clinton-syria-no-fly-zones-russia-us-war

The Kremlin Really Believes That Hillary Wants to Start a War With Russia
An American embedded within Moscow’s top foreign-policy brain trust explains why Putin and his cadres are backing Trump.
-> http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/09/07...-war-with-russia-donald-trump-vladimir-putin/

Do Liberal Democrats Want War With Russia?
“Russiagate” is abetting the possibility of direct military conflict with Moscow, and liberals, once opponents of such politics, are promoting it.
-> https://www.thenation.com/article/do-liberal-democrats-want-war-with-russia/

 

All of which supports exactly what I've said, thank you.

 

There's an awful lot of things everybody knows that are yet denied.

Like the US backing of Islamist groups in Syria.

 

John Bolton started the duties of the US national security adviser. Well, it's not Ramsey. But, it seems, from the same house.

 

Yeah....and Vlad quickly claimed that the dead were "mercenaries" with no connection to the Russian military.....another lie of course!

 

I think somebody wants the US to stay in Syria. That Somebody is probably Israel.

 

When Obama inherited Bush's military which really was still Clinton's military, 18% of the Navy's ships weren't capable of putting to sea and fight. When Obama left the White House less than 50% of the Navy's ships were able to put to sea and fight.

When Obama left office only 3 of the Army's 33 combat brigades were combat capable. (Combat Brigades not to be confused with Brigade Combat Teams) Under just one year with Trump as CnC it's up to 5 brigades being combat capable. Still 1/2 of the FMF isn't capable of being deployed and 1/2 or more of the Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps aircraft can't fly.

Under Obama the morale of the troops was at its lowest in history. Under Trump morale is going back up. The purging of the Officers Corps under Obama in the name of liberal social engineering and political correctness has come to an end. More officers were purged and or forced out of the military than any time in history even back when the military was three times larger.
FYI: ( Obama fired Gen. "Mad Dog" Mattis and was just about to fire Gen. Kelly but Kelly saw the writting on the wall and retired before he could be fired by Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice. Over 200 generals and flag officers were purged by the Obama White House for political reasons.)

In 1993 President Clinton inherited the Reagan military not the Bush (41) military. With Clinton in less than four years of over downsizing (dismantling) of the Reagan military it became Clinton's military.

Most Army Brigades, Navy Planes Aren't Combat Ready:
-> https://www.military.com/daily-news...rigades-navy-planes-combat-ready-leaders.html



https://www.heritage.org/military-strength/executive-summary

source:
2018 Index of

U.S. Military Strength
Assessing America's Ability to Provide for the Common Defense

https://www.heritage.org/military-strength

 

You called me a Nazi because Germany in 1904 collected skulls of enemies and here you are praising genocide.

Even more ridicolous that you said Assad must be punished for using posion gas on its civilians and now you want punish him by nuking those civilians.

No comedian could make up this **** you post comrade.

 

Again you are wrong.

Germany already said it will not interfer. This war would be only USA, maybe Canada and UK. The rest would drop you like a hot potato.

Germany did not join in Iraq and also not Libya. What makes you think we would join such a madness?

 

Six hundred billion is not enough???
Maybe we should stop buying new stuff and fix the old stuff??
I don't know, just asking.

 

This is abject nonsense on so many levels. The number is closer to 7000 on the Russian side but .. it matters not.

The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was a "Fission Bomb" - splitting the atom. The bombs now are "Fusion" - fusing the atom.

Hiroshima was roughly 12-14 kilotons. Compare to a 20 megaton bomb = 1500 times the power of Hiroshima.

One nuclear sub - 16 missiles (10 MIRV's each) = 160 bombs. Each roughly 5-7 times the power of Hiroshima. Take 160 US cities of population 500,000 or more off the map and let me know what you are left with.

That is one sub and these are firecrackers compared to the ballistics. They do not generally use the 20 megaton variety anymore (although some remain) because numerous 1-5 megaton bombs are more efficient.

The bomb dropped on Hiroshima was an air blast so the fallout was relatively low in comparison to a ground blast. The Castle Bravo ground blast test contaminated 7000 sq-miles with radioactivity. On a fishing vessel 90 miles away one person was killed and the others hospitalized due to radioactive fallout.

(so much for the 1 mile idea). Divide 7000 sq-miles into the continental land mass of the US and you get a little over 400 missiles of equivalent size to turn the US into a red "no go zone" on the map ... from all the radioactive contamination. Realistically the number is half that amount.

The idea that Russia would reduce its stockpile of nukes to levels below what are required to completely destroy the US is preposterous stupidity. Same goes for us. The reason both sides reduced is because it is just stupid to say "they can destroy us 6 times over so we better be able to destroy them 10 times over"

Once is quite sufficient although both sides have many multiples of that.

Nuclear war is not winnable. "MAD" is still fully in play.

 

How are you going to mount a 5 megaton warhead on ICBM? Do you know how much it weighs?
Good luck with that.
As for 7000 warhead - yes they are in storage. To get them going you need to retrieve them and mount on ICBM. Not something you can do in one day. The number of warheads that are ready to go is closer to 1500.

 

It will join according to NATO treaty.
US didn’t invoke that treaty in Iraq or Libya. If it won’t join it will be punished after the war.

 

Nuking military bases is not nuking civilians.

 

This is BS.

Go over and take care of him yourself. Typical coward, sit behind a keyboard and talk, other people pay the price. Pathetic.

Why does everyone ALWAYS bring up Hitler?
Trump is Hitler... Assad is Hitler... Hussein is Hitler... Ghaddafi is Hitler...

Unless these people are stopped.... it'll be another case of Hitler!!!! STOP!

This is delusion and propaganda. Put in isn't close to Hitler. Go take care of it yourself. SOME OF US don't want to get bogged down and dragged into a war of that scale, over nothing more than platitudes and conjecture. Especially by the rabid, frothing at the mouth neanderthals that suggest fighting Russia or Syria is a good thing. GO AWAY

 

Russia has 20 megaton warheads mounted on ICBM's. The "SATAN-18" missile is typically outfitted with 10 MIRV - 750 kt each ( over 50 times the power of Hiroshima) but there are 10 of them on one missile. Other variants are 2-5 megaton MIRV (3 per missile). Then you have the single warhead 20 megaton variety.

You clearly have not studied this issue much but, it should be obvious that Russia is not going to reduce its missile stockpile if it thought that would make nuclear war winnable by the other side. The same is true for us.

Rest assured ... both sides are fully capable of wiping the other side off the map - numerous times.

 

From 2009 to 2016 the Obama administration decided not to fix old stuff but instead use the military for social engineering.

 

Yeah, those transgender folks are real wreaking balls..... So to speak.

 

It's the Progressive Marxist Dem's that are concerned. They'd prefer the Obama turn tail method.

 

So are all peter puffers in the U.S. military.