U.S. says Syrians built crematorium at prison to dispose of bodiesThe US

A bit radical approach, but an interesting point! ^^

Sadly.. ...does not exactly seems people there want to talk. The "conversation" there looks all too familiar, only with Iran and Israel in roles of EU and RF.

Definitely made me disappointed. =~=

 

because anyone who fled is enemy of Assad and so for Iran too ...
But same question can be asked towards Saudis and their behavior in Yemen too... and please don't come with these alibi actions they did in the past as example who nice the KSA is etc....

 

I actually found the post provocative, but don't have the knowledge to comment on the issue. My basic attitude, however, is that many of the reports of atrocities are simply one of the propaganda weapons in the larger war against Assad, although any war - much less a brutal civil war such as this one involving groups that proudly behead their opponents - will definitely have its share of atrocities.

That is not Iran's claim, but what the Lebanese from the areas (both Shia and Christian) would tell you if you talked to them.

If you read this report you will see that despite the title, Iran's assistance wasn't confined to rebuilding just the shia neighborhoods in south Beirut or southern Lebanon, but even included areas which were Christian.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22878198
Hezbollah heartlands recover with Iran's help

 

The threat to KSA from Yemen is real and critical and has been for a decade.. I am surprised the Saudis were so restrained until 2 years ago. Nobody was threatening Syria before the civil war broke out.

 

Yeah ... as usual you name only the terror threat from Yemen towards KSA, but any action from KSA towards Yemen is excluded or if not, then denied as in the past.
If someone wants to put Iran on the Prosecution bank for their Shia law and practice, KSA has to take seat together with them!

 

KSA was never a threat to Yemen. NEVER. Don't you know anything about the region? What the hell does Shia law have to do with this?

 

Other than the headscarf rule, which is enforced but has created a rather interesting fashion among many women in Iran, pretty much all the rest of the "Sharia" stuff about Iran is mostly propaganda and grossly misrepresent the actual situation in the country. The aspects of Iranian law at issue are intentionally drafted in a way that would basically make their application impossible. In any case, I find any comparison between Iran and Wahhabi Arabia insulting and demeaning.

 

Headscarfs? Are you kidding me? The problem isn't headscarfs.

 

Well, for someone like me who is not religious and whose family isn't religious either, that is the most obvious and intrusive difference between Iran and where I used to live, namely Los Angeles. The other real differences are that I can't take my daughter to watch football games in stadiums in Iran. And that alcohol consumption, while widespread, is akin to marijuana usage in many places in the US in that it is done through a host of dealers who bring the stuff to your house and isn't something you buy in the stores. These are all 'red lines' for the regime because - despite the propaganda and the formal strictures that remain but have impossible conditions for their enforcement and have no relevance to real life here - these are the only things that evidence Iran standing up to "western culture"!

 

Again this silly "Don't you anything?" O dear ... because I don't follow your opinion, I have of course no idea! lame ... very lame!
KSA threats since decades Yemen and ruled the country ... we still discussed this several times and always you deny this. No desire to have a new discussion about with you, when you are blind to realities!

 

And the same say the Saudis about in matter of finding it insulting and demeaning to be compared with the Iranian!
Fact is.... has KSA the Sharia law as law system? Yes! Has Iran the Sharia law as law system? Yes! Do both act after Sharia with penalties etc.? Yes!

Any further question?

 

You need to ask me the questions, as I live in Iran, and I can answer them for your more accurately than what you imagine you know.

Iran's penal code adopted Sharia injunctions. In each case it did when the injunction carried a serious penalty, it also stipulated conditions which made its application practically impossible. For instance, to prove either sodomy or adultery, you need either someone to confess in front of the court 4 times. Or 4 witnesses to the sexual act. If you accuse someone of either crime and can't bring the 4 live witnesses to back up your accusation, you will face serious punishment for making the accusation.

Iran's family law code, on the other hand, was never really purely Sharia based to begin with. But even those aspects which were sharia based included two protections which allowed for people to regulate the issue differently. First, there is a pre-printed government prenuptial which (by just checking the applicable boxes - e.g., giving a women the right to travel without permission of husband, the right to divorce, the right to half the earnings during marriage) makes the institution very much like what you have in other places. Except, in Iran, there is also something called "Mehriyeh" - an amount (almost always several times the groom is capable of paying) which is payable to a wife on demand whenever she chooses to demand this sum. If the amount (usually represented in gold coins) is not paid when the wife asks for it, a husband can be put in jail. This gives Iranian women enormous leverage in their marriage and thousands of Iranian men languish in jail because they can't pay the sum being demanded of them from their wives, often when getting divorced but sometimes even just in spite during the marriage itself.

I can explain the actual situation in Iran at some length, but at the end of the day, people will choose to believe whatever they wish. Until they actually come and visit Iran for themselves. On the latter, I should add that Iran has changed tremendously just over the past 15-20 years. It is hardly distinguishable in any sense from any European country, except in some peculiar things like the headscarf I mentioned.

 

How many countries has Bashar Assad invaded?

 

What does that have to do with his wholesale slaughter of Syrians?

 

I don't know, ask your Saudi puppet masters that you nonstop shill for.

 

For years, Christians and other religious minorities have lived as well as any non-Muslim religious minority can, in Syria. That was the case, until Saudi funded jihadist started pouring into the country. Who are Christians, Druze, and Kurds siding with? Here's a hint, it sure as **** ain't Obama, and KSA's "moderate" jihadist.
Is Bashar Assad innocent, hell no. He's up to his eyeballs in civilian blood, but he's got nothing on wahhabist sunnis who have butchered their way from North Africa to the Philippines.

 

No.. Hafez often carried out brutal purges. Syria has had many military coups since 1949.

 

Under Assad Jr, and poppa Assad, Syria has been stable, up till now.

 

Hafez murdered 10s of thousands.

 

Bullshit.

 

Oh yeah.. He killed 10,000 Muslim brotherhood in the 1980s.. Some say the numbers were higher.

 

You greatly inflate numbers. Very dishonest of you.

 

Look it up for yourself.

 

No one denies that situation in Iran improved much, but is far away to be full freedom.
Anyway, topic was that people like to blame and accuse Iran for things which are true or not (discussable) but ignore that Saudi Arabia can be accused and blamed for right the same things which are true or not (same way discussable).

Why?
Iran is the marked enemy for the people in the USA since 1979 and so any dirt can be thrown on them reasoned or not.
But Saudi Arabia is a close friend and ally, so we ignore these things at them ...! And right this is simply hypocritical ... you agree?

 

I agree with your point about hypocrisy, but I don't think even those who like to spam nonsense about Iran really believe Iran is like Wahhabi Arabia. Or I hope they don't, because that would be too ignorant in my mind.