http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/aug/30/cameron-mps-syria The conservative leader is dealt a heavy blow in The Commons, as MP's vote down action on Syria. In other news, oil is indeed mixed up in this ugly affair.... www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbys...f-oil-supply-heightens-Syria-attack-risk.html This has cut daily global supply by 1.1m over the past year to 92m, explaining why Brent crude prices have remained stubbornly high despite the slump in Europe and Chinas slowdown. To compound the problem, Libyas oil is some of the highest quality produced in the Middle East and the kind preferred by European refiners. Jitters over Syria have already pushed Brent to $115, near levels that typically erode confidence and inflict serious economic damage.
Well, there is no way we should go this alone. As Liberals always say, we can't be the world's policeman any longer.
At least we're not Edit/Rule 2 We don't blame our PM for inaction, whilst waiting for him to act, so we can slam him for that. Again, at least we're not Edit/Rule 2
We sit out 1 war for the first time in a very long time, after being with you all throughout Iraq and Afghanistan, despite not having your support over the Falklands, a war we have no business getting involved in as there is no concrete proof that Assad used the chemical weapons, and we are cowards? Its called Democracy. America should try it some time.
LOL, he is cool and all but I would not hold your breath waiting on him to slam Obama. Yes, you are correct,congratulations on your leaders using common sense. I hope my congress actually gets the chance to do the same.
I'll remin you that a member of the US Right accused the UK of cowardess, not correct decision making. IMO, Iraq II blew this from the start. There is a line that should not be crossed, and dropping napalm on schools is over that line; it seems that this is happening in Syria. There is a greater case for intervention (not boots on the ground) but perhaps crippling Assad's airforce, than there was for the Iraq war. Blair and Bush's decision making has influenced our reluctance to prevent atrocities in Syria.
The British Parliament on CSPAN main argument was that they were waiting for weapon's inspectors to finish their work before participating in the war, as UN members. So after the US invasion and weapons of mass destruction are found, they will have to invest resources in rebuilding Syria with new leadership with friendlier oil interests to the west. Or they can take British Petroleum out of America, and find a new way to pay all the Universal Health Care expenditures, and other welfare to their people.
Which is absolutely no different to the US Right painting anyone who isn't christian, white, male, uber conservative as being a communist, socialist.
What that has to do with your statement claiming that Montoya is a right winger is beyond me. - - - Updated - - - BTW Leffe aren't you a self reclaimed socialist?
On your first point montoya(US left) called you called you cowards. Mac-7(US right) said you made correct decision. Me libertarian agrees with mac-7. On your 2nd point I believe you are wrong Syria is not as bad as Iraq was. At the time of the invasion possible. Sadam committed genocide killing 600,000 Kurds with 10X the amount killed by chemical weapons than Syria.
And what does that have to do with the topic? Its your thread and you cant even stay on your own topic!
Well I'm not a "lefty" and he sounds like one of you guys - - - Updated - - - No. I'm a capitalist. I want responsible capitalism to return. - - - Updated - - - Committed or was committing?
Are you sure you aren't a fascist in the economic sense? A lot of libs are. That means they believe in private ownership but government control through taxes and regulation. Which enables government to redistribute the profits among the people according to their assumptions about what's best for society. Doesn't that sound more like you and Montoya?
British Petroleum is a British multinational oil and gas company headquartered in London, they reap profits for the Queen of England from American consumers who fill up their Pick up trucks, and Escalade sports utility vehicles, at those stations. Secondly, United Kingdom is the worst performing European country because it chose to be a Sovereign state, and not join the European Union, so it needs to be loyal to the United States for economic interests as selling oil energy is a big part of their economy. England will help to rebuild Syria since it chose not to assist us militarily, or face economic sanctions from the United States, and will have to find another way to pay for their Universal Healthcare, and their other welfare expenditures.
Is Assad still supposedly using chemical weapons? To answer your question he had committed attacks much like Assad is being acussed. He did far more damage than Assad has even though it was not as current.
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-77211050/ US may act alone to protect our rebels we have armed with no background checks.
That is sad to quote the former secretary of defense "we will seek international approval then come tell the congress what we are going to do" to paraphrase F the constitution the UN is the most important. What the UN does not agree with Obama? But-but that does not matter Assad killed 1/10 of the people Sadam did with chemical weapons. We must attack now before everyone has a chance to actually think. If all goes wrong then it must be Bush's fault for not attacking Iraq sooner and allowing WMD to be moved to Syria.
Agreed. I love this morning's Krauthammer. http://nationalreview.com/article/357167/shamed-war-charles-krauthammer You want to send a message Mr. President? Do it by text, not with Tomahawks. Don't get me wrong, I think Chuck would love to rid the world of Assad. I think he is no worse than any other loon over there. But he agrees with us. Dropping bombs is no way to send a message. If that is all Obama is prepared to do, he should just do it by telegram with flowers. And candy.
Well see that is different you see we NATO support for Libya so they had "legal basis"... We dont have a "coalition of allies" now so still screw the Constitution and Congress we will do it alone.... Basically we will do what we want and then try to justify it later.
