Ukraine crisis: Poroshenko orders troops to key cities

BREAKING NEWS:Ukraine's President has ordered army reinforcements to key cities, a new Russian/collaborators offensive on the way
will this time NATO act as it ´d, if evidence of the Putin´s involvement ´d be clear as it was 1 month ago offense?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29905014

 

Uhhh Litwin, the Russian involvement is no more than U.S. and Nato's involvement in Ukraine, but then spinning is BBC's specialty. I suggest you prepare for the inevitable...

Now how about some logic. Since Poroshenko refuses to accept the election in Donbas, then there is no one for Kiev to dialogue with and the only alternative is war... according to Stephen Cohen a top expert on Russia and Ukraine. He said that Kiev is under Washington's control, and war is what Washington and Nato want. Cohen is not the only one who can see things clearly through the Washington fog, there are other brilliant minds such as Paul Craig Roberts, Ron Paul and Robert Parry and they are trying desperately to present the truth to the American people.

Here's an interesting discussion on TV as Cohen gives his expert analysis of the situation:

[video]http://russia-insider.com/en/tv_politics_ukraine/2014/11/04/02-01-04pm/nations_stephen_cohen_american _tv_last_night_explaining[/video]

 

Uh huh. So how much NATO weaponry has been supplied to Ukraine then ?

 

Why do you post Russian sources? You realize when you do that it's the exact same as when we post US sources?

 

Give it up.
"Observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) “have registered no troops, ammunition or weapons crossing the Russian-Ukrainian border over the past two weeks” (Itar-Tass)

“Throughout the week, the Observer Teams noticed a net increase of young people (both men and women) wearing military-style dress crossing the border in both directions but did not observe any weapons among these groups,” the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission’s report covering a period from August 20 to September 3 said.

The observers said they had regular interactions with supporters of the self-proclaimed republics. “Some discussed openly with the OSCE while others expressed their total mistrust toward the OSCE. At both Border Crossing Points, some supporters of the self-proclaimed republics explained that they are not allowed to cross the border with weapons,” the report said.

The observers registered a decrease in helicopter sightings compared to last week but they were still observed at border crossing points flying at low altitude along the border.

“In either case, in as far as could be seen, the aircraft did not violate the Ukrainian airspace,” the report said. (Ibid)

The OSCE Observer Mission is deployed at the Russian Checkpoints of Gukovo and Donetsk at the request of Russia’s government. The decision was taken in a consensus agreement by all 57 OSCE participating States, many of which are represented at the NATO Summit in Wales.

The OSCE report contradicts the statements made by the Kiev regime and its US-NATO sponsors. It confirms that NATO accusations pertaining to the influx of Russian tanks are an outright fabrication.

NATO backed up Obama’s statements with “fake” satellite images (28 August 2014) that allegedly “show Russian combat forces engaged in military operations inside the sovereign territory of Ukraine”. These statements are refuted by a detailed report of the OSCE monitoring mission stationed at the Russia-Ukraine border. The NATO reports including its satellite photos were based on fake evidence.

It is worth noting that the OSCE carefully categorizes movements across the border, which largely consist of refugees"

 

But I asked how much NATO weaponry had been supplied to Ukraine given its alleged equality of involvement in this conflict . Where are all the western weapons ?

 

This is weird, I thought for sure they were going to wait for winter to pass and now this? Porko is probably as dumb as he looks...

 

Sorry you missed it but I posted that link of the Independence day parade (Kiev) sport'in all their new US made equipment a while back. Go look. Im not going to hold your hand. I already raised my kids.

 

nuclear war?

is that your prediction..or fantasy?

there are now two of you predicting nuclear war and posting images of nuclear mushroom clouds.

is this supposed to frighten us?

it doesn't. It simply shows how silly Russia Today and the Kremlin is.


see M.A.D. Then come back to me.

 

Sorry but I do not believe you so you had better post it again

 

Porko got itchy again. Elections in Kiev far out farced previous elections in Kiev. Donetsk and Lugansk are out of reach to ne Nazi.

 

Godwins Law

 

Poroshenko will loose all those 'major" cities anyway, because he did not exterminate local population. People are waiting.

 

The OSCE monitors actually praised his attempts at trying to include the disputed areas

 

Poroshenko won lots of areas even in the east of the country.

seems like Russia is only popular in the very very far east of ukraine.

 

>>>MOD EDIT Flamebait Removed<<< The very first thing that comes up is a you tube of it. "Kiev Independence Day Parade Flaunts Artillery and Armor" Good Lord this was only in August.
Don't you remember the parade that Porko said the Kiev troops would be marching in the streets of Donbas? Well they did along with the Poles and American soldiers they had caught. They had to send in the water trucks to clean the streets after they were paraded through with their hands tied behind their backs.

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Was he a "write in"? Thanks for the laugh.

 

I call BS on your claim then and I dare you to prove me wrong. Show me these alleged western weapons at this parade ?
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I don't believe it. Please provide some evidence for this, like photos.

 

Lord YES

"Observers from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) “have registered no troops, ammunition or weapons crossing the Russian-Ukrainian border over the past two weeks” (Itar-Tass)

Where are the images of all those bad Russian military people and hardware in Ukraine.
I don't mean a truck of two, I mean the advertised numbers.
There is no excuse by the west and their image abilities from air or space, not to provide the proof ala Stevenson at the U.N. demonstrating missiles in Cuba.

[video=youtube;CxDGtu-aMi0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxDGtu-aMi0[/video]
I know, I know. Those tricky Russians are tunneling all that heavy equipment into Ukraine.

I miss America being "The Good Guys".

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Moi
For a good time, find stories online of international observers at the E. Ukraine voting and their approval of the process. No such stories on NBC, Fox, MSNBC. PBS, BBC or any part of Western Media, Inc. They serve governments like Graystone (Blackwater) a mercenary "press".

r > g

No ​

 

Ukraine is an independent country it has all rights to defend itself, buy weaponry , invite military alliances , etc.

but you have a question anyway , answer is Ukraine is getting 0 lethal weapons from NATO today

 

why you was not there(ruSSki march ) yesterday?


its for you put it on your troll PC

 

why only roSStukhs , vatans, and ufo -trolls see nazi in Ukraine? NGO:s, UN see nazi only in ruSSia?

 

[video=youtube;jFS8gGb_jQE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jFS8gGb_jQE[/video]
[video=youtube;9uqFIEbesDQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9uqFIEbesDQ[/video]

 

no need to worry, they're just delivering bread and water to the starving children of Donbass.

 

And maybe Porko is going to try to get out of paying the Russians the 4 Billion Dollars that Ukraine owes Russia for natural gas that was already delivered and consumed a long time ago. Worse, Ukraine just came to agreement with Russia a few days ago to pay, and to quit being an obstruction to the delivery of natural gas to all of Western Europe. Now what?!

Here's an indication of "what" -- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/04/russia-nato-ukraine_n_6101662.html

If Porky and the Kiev gang think they're going to storm into Eastern Ukraine and just crush the independence movement, they had better be damned careful. Putin isn't the slightest bit afraid of Obama, of Britain, or of Germany (whose businesspeople are almost entirely against the sanctions). Porky had better tread very lightly, if at all. His central banker buddies and the IMF may be good at tightening the screws on Russian economic exchange rates, but when the real **** hits the fan on the ground in Eastern Ukraine, they are worthless! Truth is, Vladsky can lift one leg and blow Kiev away -- and laugh!
"So sorry, Porky. This is the closest I can come to looking like I'm scared of you...."