Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky 'I Don’t Trust Anyone at All.'

Keep on spouting Putin's propaganda and keep on denying that the US is the hot spot for international Neo NAZI movement.
Skin heads, buuuuuhhhaaaaaaaaa

 

I don't know much about George Soros, I've resisted the temptation, but everything else you wrote is most certainly true and needs to be understood by everyone. Great post!

 

The EU nor the US put anybody into power.
It was a struggle with whom to aline.
Putin's boy lost that struggle, when he got to close to Russia. He saw himself as a want to be dictator. Him and His clan plundered the Ukraine.
On the other side were all kinds of people, who did not trust Russia, or just plane hate it. They wanted a closer relationship with the West, especially with the EU, for economic purposes and not to fall back into the Russian hands.
Are there NAZI or Neo NAZI in Ukraine, for sure, as they are in the US.
When Putin's boy lost, he ran for Russia and took billions with him.
The pictures of his little presidential datcha went around the world. He had built himself a Palace.
The people of the Ukraine ran hat guy out of town and rightfully so.
Did Russia have to annex the Crimea, well yes, Sevastopol, they had to. No brainer.
Dombas was stupid, it failed to destabilize the Ukraine, did the opposite, showed the Ukraine what a sweet heart Russia is and it cost Russia billions.
Russia is the aggressor and terrorist.

 

What is the relevance of something that happened during WW2 when the Ukraine was part of the Soviet Union?

 

This seems to be their attitude.

 

Hi Jean How are you =),
I wish to ask way back 19 February 1954, what did Nikita Khrushchev did and what was the main reason of the transfer, then after that at 1989 why is it that the Russian population became 1.6 M while that of Ukrainians were only 626 thousand within Crimea?

 

Or the hysterical left, make up evil.

 

Khruschev I believe was Ukrainian, and the Russians didn't take it to heart when Khruschev transferred Crimea, since the USSR was an internationalist system where nation/states didn't exist. Ukraine was not a country, it was simply an administration within the Soviet Union.

Under Lenin and Stalin, the whole east and south which was part of Russia, as well as Crimea later on, were handed over to the Ukrainian administration. Also large territories of Poland and Hungary were as well. I believe that small parts of Romania, Belarus, and Czechoslovakia also became parts of the Ukrainian administration.

Ukraine wasn't the only country this happened to, it also happened in the Baltics so that 20 million Russians found themselves living outside of Russia with the break up of the Soviet Union. Like in Ukraine, the fear is that these Russian enclaves will want to return to Russia - where they rightfully belong. Of course it's not that easy since the populations have become mixed somewhat.

What's unfair is that the Russian Federation did give the administrations the right to vote on whether they wanted to secede from Russia if they wanted to, yet they in turn didn't give the same right to vote to the different ethnic areas within the administrations of the USSR.

These ethnic groups living within the new nations that were formed out of the administrations, want to retain their language and ethnic traditions, yet the nationalists in Galatia who had gained their country by joining the Nazis and killing off the Poles in WWII, feared the lands might then go back to their original countries. So instead of making it worth their while to remain with them, they keep them in an apartheid state, hoping that by doing so they will get up and leave. It's called ethnic cleansing.

I don't doubt the men that were conscripted and used as cannon fodder, and who were given only two weeks training came from either the Russian territories or the Hungarian one. This is why Hungary sided with Russia on Ukraine. Besides the Hungarians, the Russyns which are also a large group prefers to be part of Hungary, and the Greeks which were given lands and towns such as Mariopol by Catherine the Great, prefer being part of Russia.

When Russia gave Poroshenko a road map on how to keep Ukraine intact by federating, so that each group would be able to have trade and retain ties with whatever country they wanted to, Poroshenko said we do not take orders from Russia - and that was the end of that. I guess he felt it was better to kill them off.

Hatred towards Russia runs deep in the Ukrainian areas that were once under Poland, and afterwards suffered under the supremacist attitude towards Slavs under the Austrian Empire. An attitude that they themselves acquired towards other Slavs, otherwise why so much cruelty?

 

Here's something of interest that makes one wonder if Pres. Zalensky is really in charge of Ukraine? Last week the Normandy Four had positive talks in Minsk on how the Donbas can reunite with Ukraine.

Here's a statement by the Press Service of the DPR People's Militia Dept.

“Our reconnaissance personnel stationed in the area of the town of Maryinka (southwest of Donetsk) detected an unmanned aerial vehicle launch by the soldiers of the 28th Ukrainian brigade. The drone was on its way to the residential areas of the Trudovskaya mine, but was destroyed by well-coordinated actions of our soldiers at the border of the (Donetsk People’s) Republic,”



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It's relevant because today the descendants of the Wolyn massacre are not only committing the same crimes against the Russians in the Donbas that they committed against the Poles so they could take their lands, but are flaunting Bandera in torchlight marches. This would be the same as Germans marching and flaunting the picture of Adolph Hitler.

When the Poles objected, instead of being apologetic over what their grandparents did, they were offended that the Poles would insult the father of their country. What's interesting is that he is the father not because he gave them all the Russian, Polish and Hungarian territory the way Lenin and Stalin did, (who by the way they hate), but because he joined the Nazis and formed the militias that specialized in bashing the kids heads against the walls - among all the other atrocities.

Washington instead of putting them on trial, shipped many off to Canada after the war to help them against the Soviets. Anyway, this gives you an idea of the mentality in those who Nuland and company put in charge of the government in Kiev.

 

Yup, you're right he is Ukrainian but Stalin is Georgian, and Brezhnev is the one that is Russian, but somehow it perplexed me why is that the decision of Khrushchev was not reversed by Brezhnev during his tenure, was the transfer sound enough and no objection from the Russian side of the USSR, then why is the drastic take-over now did happened, could I speculate that it is something to do with gas supply to Europe or Russian control of the black sea instigating the Russians to annex Crimea?

 

Thanks Dotard.

 

Thank Nancy Pelosi, she singlehandedly created an INTL scandal by herself. And I'm aware that this INTL scandal may very well result in the 'successful' impeachment of the POTUS. Woo hoo!

That's twice in the decade(ACA) where her speakership failed the Republic. Even if Democrats maintain the majority, they should do themselves the favor of finding a better speaker.

 

The reason there wasn't any concern about Khruschev giving Crimea to Ukraine had to do with the globalist Soviet System where nations and borders simply didn't exist. Since Russia wasn't a country, and Ukraine wasn't a country, but were simply administrative systems of the same USSR, it didn't really matter.

It only mattered when the Soviet Union broke up and they became separate nations. Then Ukraine and the Baltics became frightened that they might lose the lands they had gained - since the land really didn't belong to them anyway.

From what I know, the reason Washington had the coup was to put a Nato base on Crimea to control Black Sea - as well as to have easy access to Russia's nuclear missiles in the Urals. Washington's plans were all ready to convert the Russian naval base at Sevastopol into a Nato base, but when the destroyer the Donald Cook arrived at Crimea, they found themselves confronted by Russian jets.

What made it worse, was that the ships Aegis system was being blocked by the Russian Khibiny system, and one pilot kept diving at the ship and scaring the wits out of the American sailors, so that when the ship finally docked at Romania, some sailors refused to go back on board.

As for Crimea having gas, maybe they do have because Merkel was very gung ho about the coup, but I haven't heard anything about that for years. From what I read, Russia is more concerned about turning it into a resort and wine producing area. Crimea was very neglected under Ukraine, probably to force the Russians to leave as well as the Tatars since Turkey was starting to eye Crimea.

 

After the dissolution of the USSR is Crimea under Ukraine or under Russia? does Russia have the legal basis to annex Crimea? how's that became legal?
Can you give me some proof that NATO really wished to build a base in Crimea, because I did not hear any only from Lavrov.
Donald Cook as I have known only patrolled the Western part of the black sea because of the crisis created in Crimea, and the SU-24 don't have anything in their missile pods, and they were warned meaning they were detected.

Do the Russians have to invade and annex Crimea through military means just to turn it into a dacha or a vineyard, I think that is unbelievable and less credible.

 

Let me explain the situation the way I remember it. Yanukovich was the legally elected president of Ukraine, and the country was ready to default and needed money quickly. I think it was about 5 billion but I'm not sure. No one was going to loan money to Ukraine, not even China, so as a last resort he went to Russia. Putin took money from a fund to help him out which infuriated the Russian people at the time..

When Yanukovich was ready to sign the deal with the EU, he was told that the losses to Ukraine would be something like 35 billion a year. Instead it turned out to be more like 150 billion a year, something Ukraine could not afford.

So Yanukovich asked the EU if they could help him out, and they said no and told him to go to the IMF. The IMF said that they would give him the money but he would have to lower the social services 70% and double the price of gas. Yanukovich felt he couldn't do that to the Ukrainian people, so he decided to delay joining the EU for a few years.

The big problem was that Russia had given Ukraine some very beneficial trade deals. If Ukraine became part of the EU, then goods from other EU countries would start entering Russia through Ukraine under the same trade deals. To help out Ukraine, Putin said he would discuss the situation with the EU, but the EU refused to discuss it.

They hate Russia and Russians, which means the people of Galatia hate the South and East of Ukraine which had always been part of Russia. Ukraine shouldn't be one country, but when Galatia was going to secede, Nuland told them not to, and instead she would put them in charge of all of Ukraine - which she did. So now the majority of the people in Ukraine have to live under a group of people who hate them.

Yanukovich's wealth was nothing compared to the wealth of Poroshenko, Tyroshenko, Kolomoisky, and the other oligarchs, who Obama and Nuland put in charge. Their wealth though, is not being flashed all over the MSM because it isn't politically beneficial.

Not the people of Ukraine. Only those from the Western part of Ukraine that belonged to Poland and the Austrian/Hungarian Empire. The people in the South and East voted for Yanukovich. When the EU, the protesters and Yanukovich signed an agreement for him to remain president until the end of the year, the Nazis in Kiev began threatening him as well as the politicians who represented the South and East of Ukraine, so they all ran for their lives.

As long as Yanukovich remained alive, he was the legal president of Ukraine, so of course the mafias and Nazis controlling Ukraine tried to kill him. To save his life, Vladimir Putin stayed up all night directing him where to go so he could be picked up by the Russian helicopters.

Later on when the people of Donbas held a referendum, Yanukovich went on TV and told them not to vote to unite with Russia, but to vote to federate the country - which they did. After the vote, Poroshenko instead of speaking to the people of Donbas, he began bombing and killing them - and you want to tell me that they're not criminals and Nazis?

Here's the bombing of the Lugansk administrative building.

 

In 1992 Crimea became a legal, democratic, secular state whose relationship with Ukraine was based on bilateral agreements. In March 17, 1995 their constitution was abolished by Kiev when their special ops forces from the SBU and the armed forces of Ukraine invaded Crimea and Sevastopol to establish their own law and order in Crimea.

They seized the building housing the Supreme Council of the republic, where the administration of the acting president of Crimea, Yuriy Meshkov, was also headquartered, and demanding that he be turned over. Since Meshkov refused to vacate his office, they tried to poison him. Only an emergency evacuation to Moscow miraculously saved his life.

On March 16, 2014, the Crimeans were offered a choice: to rejoin Russia or to return to the constitution of 1992 that proclaimed Crimea a legal, democratic, secular state whose relationship with Ukraine was based on bilateral agreements. The people voted to be part of Russia as protection since they feared another invasion from Ukraine.

https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/03/28/so-who-annexed-crimea-peninsular-then/
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I don't recall Lavrov ever mentioning it. I believe the video is from Voltairenet, which is not part of the MSM so it should be trustworthy. Other than Voltairnet, what happened to the Donald Cook was mentioned on quite a few trustworthy sites years ago.

You're reading too much from the propaganda networks and keep repeating the same lies. The only country that invaded Crimea was Ukraine, and the people living there who speak Russian, go to school in Russia, and marry Russians, voted in a referendum to become part of Russia so that Ukraine would not be able to invade them again.

 

How much is the Russian and Ukrainian population in Crimea during this period?
if a referendum is to be initiated who would actually won? But would you agree that Crimea is not really a Russian soil but in rights more favorable towards Ukraine?

GENEVA, November 28. /TASS/. Western powers regret that they did not have enough time to build a NATO naval base in Crimea before the 2014 referendum, when the Crimean people expressed their desire to become of Russia, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated on Wednesday after talks with his Swiss counterpart Ignazio Cassis.
https://tass.com/world/1033267

But majority of global international news says so, do you suggest all of them are propaganda networks? What is the basis of Russia's annexation of Ukraine? is it just because the majority of people there are already Russian even though by rights it's actually a Ukrainian territory. What about if in Russia now 80% speaks Ukrainian can Ukraine claim the Lands of Russia occupied by the Ukrainians?

 

Nikita was born in Kalinovka, in Russia.

It was a matte of the Soviet Union " Constitution".

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Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet "About the transfer of the Crimean Oblast". Supreme Council Herald, 9 March 1954.
On 19 February 1954, the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union issued a decree transferring the Crimean Oblast from the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic to the Ukrainian SSR. The documents which are now housed at the State Archive of the Russian Federation (GARF) do confirm that the move was originally approved by the Presidium of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU) on 25 January 1954, paving the way for the authorizing resolution of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union three weeks later.[1] According to the Soviet Constitution (article 1, the borders of a republic within the Soviet Union could not be re-drawn without the agreement of the republic in question. The transfer was approved by the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the Soviet Union. The constitutional change (articles 22 and 23) to accommodate the transfer was made several days after the decree issued by the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet.[2][3]

The decree was first announced, on the front page of Pravda, on 27 February 1954.[4] The full text of the decree was:[5]

On April 26, 1954 The decree of the Presidium of the USSR Supreme Soviet transferring the Crimea Oblast from the Russian SFSR to the Ukrainian SSR.

Taking into account the integral character of the economy, the territorial proximity and the close economic and cultural ties between the Crimea Province and the Ukrainian SSR, the Presidium of the USSR Supreme Soviet decrees:

To approve the joint presentation of the Presidium of the Russian SFSR Supreme Soviet and the Presidium of the Ukrainian SSR Supreme Soviet on the transfer of the Crimea Province from the Russian SFSR to the Ukrainian SSR.

Consequently, amendments were made to the republican constitutions of Russia and Ukraine. On 2 June 1954 the Supreme Soviet of Russia adopted amendments to the Russian Constitution of 1937, which, among other things, excluded Crimea from list of subdivisions enumerated in article 14, and on 17 June 1954, the Verkhovna Rada added Crimea to article 18 of the 1937 Constitution of the Ukrainian SSR.[6][7

 

All of the East and South of Ukraine was Russian soil, and Crimea was a part of that. I believe it was called Nuvorussya. What happened is that the part of Russia that is now in Ukraine, had gone under the Lithuanian/Polish Empire during the Mongol invasions. When the Catholic bishops started forcing them to go under the Pope they asked the Tsar of Russia to take them back. That's why it's called New Russia (Nuvorussiya).

As for the vote in Crimea, the people did vote again to prove to the EU that they are happy to be under Russia with its more inclusive laws. They now have a higher standard of living, since Crimea had been neglected before - probably to get the Tatars to leave as well as the Russians.

All the MSM belong to 6 corporations and all give the same spin and also leave out the same part of the news. There are no differing views, and it began making me sick to my stomach - especially when I was being presented facts in non MSM foreign sources as well as on intellectual internet sites.

You're repeating that it was Russia and not Ukraine that annexed Crimea in 1995. The people in 2014 asked the Russian troops to protect them from the fascist junta in Kiev until they could hold a referendum and determine their own fate, as stated by the Court at the Hague with Kosovo. In the referendum they voted to unite with Russia instead of independence for fear that they might be invaded again by Kiev.

Of course according to Kerry, Kosovo is not the same thing since in Crimea no one was killed, while in Kosovo people were killed. You figure!

If Russia had Ukrainian people living there, which they do - (even though ethnically they are Russian), and began persecuting them and passing stupid laws denying them basic rights like maintaining their languages and heritages, and if they threw their representatives into trash cans and threatened them not to run, then of course they have every right to object.

Frankly, I personally believe every village and town should have their own laws, and no one should ever impose anything on anyone. So it doesn't matter who they are. Today in the US we are also suffering under a tyranny of political correctness, and it's taking away many of our own rights. Let's see how far that will go before we end up in a civil war like Ukraine.

 

In the Soviet Union it didn't matter if an area was transferred, after all, there were parts of Russia, Poland, Hungary and Romania being administered in Ukraine. When the Donbas area begged Putin to take them the way he did Crimea, he refused because he said he didn't know where he would put the border. With Crimea there was a definite separation, but with the Donbas their wasn't. When the Russians took polls in Ukraine, they found that the further west they went, the more the people wanted to remain in Ukraine. So where would the border be?

Also the Donbas industries were very integrated with the rest of Ukraine - but that's changing, and not because of Russia. But because the actions of the nationalists have pushed the Donbas towards Russia. The first thing the government in Kiev did was stop the pensions, even though it was part of the Minsk agreement. Soon all the Ukrainian banking transactions stopped, and so the people in the Donbas began using the Ruble and Russian banks..

The last thing I remember was that the Dombas coal trains were being stopped by the nationalist armies. So they ended up selling the coal to Russia. Yet the only other coal that could be used in the Ukrainian industries was in S. Africa, and it would take too long to come. So the Ukrainians ended up buying the Donbas coal from Russia at a higher price.

Anyway this gives you an idea of what's going on. When the Nationalists assassinated the hero of the Donbas Givi, (which was after they assassinated the other hero Motorola and before they assassinated the beloved President of Donbas Zacharochenko), Nadiya Savchenko, the pilot and hero of Ukraine freaked. She said there is no way now that the Donbas would want to remain a part of Ukraine. I think she tried to kill them all for what they had done to Ukraine and is now doing time in jail. Either that or they killed her.

 

Did you get that from RT, too.

 

Historically Novorossiya did exist during the Russian empire era, BUT not so after the February Russian revolution and later on incorporated into the Ukrainian Soviet Republic. Those are Ukrainian soil legally.
The Russians in Crimea do have the numbers and really augmented Russia's annexation of Crimea, the war against Russia and it's constituents in Eastern Ukraine is still on going.

 

Here are two for starters. I'm not going to run through and compile all the names, you can find them yourself on the internet. Here's a small bit from March 2014 when Nuland first established her government. If Poroshenko with all his money wasn't able to free the decent Ukrainians in the East and South from them, I'm sure Zalensky isn't able to.

Andriy Parubiy co-founder of the Neo-Nazi Social-National Party of Ukraine (subsequently renamed Svoboda) was appointed Secretary of the National Security and National Defense Committee (RNBOU). a key position which overseas the Ministry of Defense, the Armed Forces, Law Enforcement, National Security and Intelligence. The RNBOU is central decision-making body. While it is formally headed by the president, it is run by the Secretariat with a staff of 180 people including defense, intelligence and national security experts.

Parubiy was one of the main leaders behind the Orange Revolution in 2004. His organization was funded by the West. He is referred to by the Western media as the “kommandant” of the EuroMaidan movement. Andriy Parubiy together with party leader Oleh Tyahnybok is a follower of Ukrainian Nazi Stepan Bandera, who collaborated in the mass murderer of Jews and Poles during World War II.

In turn, Dmytro Yarosh, leader of the Right Sector delegation in the parliament, has been appointed Parubiy’s deputy Secretary of the RNBOU.

Yarosh was the leader of the Brown Shirt Neo-Nazi paramilitary during the EuroMaidan “protest” movement. He has called for disbanding the Party of the regions and the Communist Party.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-u-s-has-installed-a-neo-nazi-government-in-ukraine/5371554​

 

Actually no, but look if that's what you've been told and you want to believe it, then that's your choice.

My information on Ukraine comes mostly from the Serbian site: Fort Russ. I also picked up bits from intellectual American and British internet sites, as well as from the Russian documentary on the events that led up to the annexation of Crimea.

None of my information is from the MSM, since they are new world ideologues that believe the end justifies the means. This means that they have no qualms about impressing false narratives into people's minds. It's called brain washing.

The documentary starts with Putin saving Yanukovich's life, and then continues to the annexation of Crimea.