Unarmed Kid killed (part 2)

Three years is pretty normal for manslaughter.

I would assume that given Zimmerman was armed and knew he was armed that he would not iniate a physical altercation. That would be foolish as it would give an opportunity for Martin to grab his weapon.

I assumed that "reports of shots being fired" was actually "several reports of a shot being fired". I've worked in a jail with the dispatcher before and I know that the standard terminology is "shots fired" and not "shot fired".

 

It does not matter.

Why can't you see the simple truth? Even if there was a fight and even if Trayvon threw the first punch it does not justify murder. Since Trayvon did not have a weapon and Zimmerman DID NOT HAVE TO CONFRONT him then there is no way Zimmerman's life was in danger.

We all know darn well Zimmerman confronted the kid for no reason.

 

I bet Zimmerman fired at least three rounds.

 

'He had a gun, and Trayvon had Skittles': Family demands justice as 'Neighbourhood Watch captain who shot dead unarmed teen' STILL hasn't been charged

Your argument is dead, Stryker. Go and cry in a corner now.

 

You can put the rope down. The mob went home, when the facts in the police report became known. Dinner's getting cold.

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There hasn't been a full police report released yet. But I knew all along you had already decided the kid got what he deserved.

 

There is no police report stating Zimmerman was attacked but you keep on lying anyways....and keep crying to the mods because you don't have the balls to stand on your own two feet.

 

No we do not know that.

And Zimmerman no doubt made a mistake in confronting the 17 year old.

But that mistake in no way takes away his right to defend himself. If he legitimately considered his life in danger.

I'll give an example of black on white violence/self defense.

Remember the liberal black writer, the late Carl Rowan?

He was awakened one night to find a young white man swimming in his outdoor pool.

Rowan went and got a pistol, opened his door, went out and confronted the young white man who began climbing out of the pool.

As he was climbing out, Rowan thought he was preparing to lunge at him (the young white man was unarmed). Rowan fired and hit him in the wrist.

Rowan was not charged with a crime either. Though he left a place of safety (his house) to confront an unarmed young man and then used a lethal weapon against him.

Correction. Rowan was arrested and tried but not convicted due to a deadlocked jury and subsequent mistrial. Rowan did not have a liscense for the weapon he use (it was his sons IIRC).

 

The police report stated what it had apparently stated, the newspaper that I had linked the article to has apparently already had access to says so. So where does this leave you aside from your balls dangling in the breeze? You LOST, cholo!

Paco wins again!

 

It is very clear to everyone you don't care what happened. You have repeatedly celebrated the murder of this 17 year old and while I feel a lot of anger towards your ignorant racism what I feel for you more than anything is pity.

Your posts are a pathetic example of how much racism is alive and well.

 

The white guy was ON HIS PROPERTY.

Zimmerman cannot demonstrate his life was in danger and we all know it.

 

So, you would accept that?

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Decidedly!



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Yes.

But.

Rowan left a place of relative safety (his house) to unnecessarily confront an unarmed person outside his house.

Just as Zimmerman left a place of relative safety (his vehicle) to unnecessarily confront an unarmed person.

You really won't argue that the young man DESERVED to be shot by Rowan for swimming in his pool do you?

The situations are not dissimilar.

And remember, I've said that Zimmerman (based on what we know so far) should probably get three years prison.

Rowan should've gotten nothing which is of course what he got.

 

What on a police report that doesn't exist.

 

If the full police report concludes that ''Mr. Zimmerman had reason to believe that his life or health was endangered and thus his response was justified".............are you willing to accept it?

 

How many pages and threads does it take to make a liberal understand presumption of innocence?

This many apparently.

 

What is the innocence here. A young black man is walking back to his father's home. A white man sees him and calls the police claiming that he is suspicious, the police tell him to stay in his car and stop following the kid. The next thing we know neighbors are calling 911 claiming to hear gunshots and the kid is on the sidewalk dead, please explain who is innocent.

 

The situation is not analogous and it is a waste of energy to even discuss it further. If you find a valid comparison then post it.

 

True.

Unlike Rowan, Zimmerman was carrying a weapon he was fully liscensed to carry.

 

That will be on the police report because.....that is what Zimmerman claimed. He HAS to claim he felt his life was in danger because he murdered an unarmed kid.

The question is: Does his claim have any credibility?

Given the known facts:

He confronted Trayvon without cause

He brought a gun with him

He had the ability to walk away

It is darn hard to sell the claim he felt like his life was in danger.

 

That depends.

If the physical evidence supports a physical altercation with Zimmerman forced to the ground BEFORE displaying his weapon, then Zimmerman can argue quite logically that despite the fact he initially confronted Martin, Martin's overpowering him left him no chance of retreating successfully.

 

That's strange because nobody in your camp is applying that to the dead kid. Guess according to you it's only right if it's white.

Zimmerman has already admitted to killing the kid and there is no way to sell the self defense ploy.

 

Trayvon weighed a whole 140 pounds. You want us to believe he had Zimmerman subdued to the point of Zimmerman fearing his life was in mortal danger? Are you freaking joking?

Since it was Zimmerman who confronted Trayvon then the only person capable of acting in self defense was Trayvon.