Unarmed Kid Killed (part 5)

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  1. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    This wasn't a schoolyard. You know better than that. Adults can simply deliver more kinetic energy to the skull that children, and there were no school teachers to stop this fight.

    Really, where was it reported that he had a "cut" on his head and a bloody nose? I'd like to see a link. If he were unconscious, he could hardly be expected to defend himself. That point makes no sense.

    It's not a scuffle, if you are on the ground being beaten. Your attempt to minimize the assault is as obvious as it is futile.

    The fact is that you are loath to admit that at any time would the assault have made Zimmerman feel that he was threatened with great bodily injury because at that point he would be fully justified by Florida law to defend himself with deadly force. You should consider this point along with the fact that the police cannot form the probable cause to refute Zimmerman's claim. Quite the contrary, they have stated that the evidence supports Zimmerman's claims.


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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    The hundreds of lynch mob's posts calling Zimmerman a racist.

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    That is the primary reason this case has gained such attention. If it were white on white, or black on black, it would've simply made a small ripple in the media.

    The fact that initial reports claimed the shooter is white demonstrates how desperately the race/class angle is being played. This is one of the best examples I've seen in a while that demonstrates the level of nuttiness concerning race, crime, and media in this country.
     
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    Sadanie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? I posted a quote that mentionned the 13 year old witness referring to a "red shirt." I believe it does have something to do with it.

    And. . .What do you think I don't know? That the kid was found face down in the grass, and had been shot in the chest? It is true I do not know if the bullet went in from the front or the back. . . and I think it is kind of strange that that hasn't been revealed by the police yet! It seems that the chief of police has himself something to lose and is certainly not anxious to arrest this guy.

    Luckily, the FBI is now involved, so covering up will become much harder for the Sanford police.

    I am just watching the latest news about Zimmerman on CNN. The shooter had NO RIGHT to carry the gun while doing his round as a neighborhood watch VOLUNTEER.

    Witnesses have come forward stating that they had called the police 4 times, to give their deposition, and the police never called them back.

    The kid's mother is certain that it was her son shrieking in terror for help. So do the witnesses who made the phone calls to 911.
     
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    The red shirt thing has nothing to do with the mug shot photo... I mean seriously...

    Fact#4 - Nobody knows much of anything at this point based upon the evidence privy to us. There is evidence to support both sides, so all we can do is make assumptions.

    If an investigation reveals that Zimmerman did not shoot in self defense, then he'll do his time. He's not going to get away with 'killing an innocent black kid' if evidence proves he was absolutely wrong in doing so.

    So, you all can simmer down now. The fat lady has not sung yet.
     
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    I wonder if Zimmerman is found to be here illegally then that would mean he's an illegal alien who shot an American Citizen.

    Or if his father/mother was here illegally, then that would mean he was an Anchor Baby who shot an American Citizen.

    . . .hush mob isn't gonna get much sleep to night pondering those scenarios.

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    Not a problem for me. An innocent human being does not deserve to be beat to death.

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    That is fair enough. . .but the reason for the outcry is that this guy has not been arrested and has not even been properly questionned by an homicide detective. The detective that arrived on the scene first was a NARCOTIC detective who asked lots of questions (leading questions?) instead of letting Zimmerman speak.

    There are a lot of inconsistencies involving the police:
    Why did they let Zimmerman go without a proper interrogation?
    Why is it a narcotic detective who questionned him on the site of the shooting?
    Why even two days after the shooting, did the police tell Martin's father that Zimmerman had a "squeaky clean" record, while he had been arrested for battery against police officer and resisting arrest in 2005?
    Why was that record dropped?
    Why has so little personal information about this man been released?(is Zimmerman married, what is his profession?)

    Could this guy have been a police informant and therefore "protected" by the Sanford police?
     
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    http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-ma...gation-killing/story?id=15949879#.T2a4MNl629s

    More witnesses may need to be interviewed. Is it likely that Zimmerman during his long hours of neighborhood watch would pass the time with a few beers?
     
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    That's quite a leap. Have you never come across someone who does not speak so clearly, or with sharp pronunciation? He seemed pretty distracted to me between watching the victim and communicating with the dispatcher. I wonder if the callers/witnesses were intoxicated too. Some of them sounded a bit incoherent.
     
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    If it was me making the determination, I would absolutely agree with you. I could not and did not tell the difference but Ron Wheeler is an expert in his field.
     
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    Is that Zimmerman? He ain't white. He has a bit of dark coloring in him.
     
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    Yep, that's him.

    Nobody would identify this guy as white in different circumstances. For example, if Zimmerman had done something great, then a white supremacist tried to use it as proof that whites are superior, people would then argue that he's obviously not white.

    But the combination of black victim, white perpetrator, and 'gated community' was like the ultimate trifecta of race baiting awesomeness. Some are still trying to argue that Zimmerman is 'white'.
     
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    How is he "innocent"?

    He stalked and accosted a kid walking in public, who was unarmed and had NO weapons at all, and otherwise NO indication WHATSOEVER for Zimmerman to think he would be "beaten to death".

    Zimmerman is a murderer, pure and simple, who is trying to make his CCW permit and his self-applied Neighborhood Watch badge be a "license to kill".
     
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    Was he paid by ABC news?

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    Did you read the post that I was answering. I think illegal aliens have a right to self defense. No one should be forced by law to accept a beating to death. I thought that you would agree.

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    Again... you cannot claim self -defense if you're the aggressor. Even if you get your ass kicked.

    Zimmerman CHASED him. Zimmerman initiated the confrontation and created the circumstance which produced his bloody nose and cut head. He then used that as motive to shoot the innocent teen (he was committing no crime).
     
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    In my view color is not an issue.
     
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    Sounds like some peoples arereally obsessed with skin colors and races!
     
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    So far, the evidence agrees with Zimmerman's claim of SD. If Zimmerman is correct, Martin was not innocent.

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    Zimmerman's following is not a confrontation.
     
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    What evidence supports Zimmerman?
     
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    That's because he was honest and the audio was too distorted. This proves he wasn't motivated to say it was Trayvon just to get Zimmerman arrested but it does show once again the cops simply took Zimmerman's side.

    After the distortions were removed Tracy confirmed it was is son. Why do you doubt his parents and imply they are being dishonest for ANY reason?
     
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    Martin walking is not suspicious.
     
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