Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Is this the first time you saw the shooting footage?

    Why does the government need to say who he is?

    The investigation has ended and he did nothing wrong.

    Ashley was the only person who went through to the other side of the window.
     
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    Post #183 is a post by you in reply to me! Here it is: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mother-daughter.583971/page-8#post-1072401509

    Quote: "Some shops does not equal an entire city, but that's what you claimed."

    Sorry, but you've LOST!

    Nobody had a gun at the Capitol riot.

    What if it was only one?

    Yes, of course riot police is the police, but they have a different ROLE than other police! So riot police = police just the same as electrical engineer = engineer. You are CLUELESS! :roflol:

    ZERO evidence presented in the left wing articles which you quoted! It's VERY telling that you have now cut out my mention of this in your reply TWICE! You probably will again! :roflol:

    Why is it so hard for you to believe that there was some human waste who were throwing stuff at cops? Do you think that ALL BLM protesters were peaceful?
     
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    It's the first time I saw the face of the assassin, because that's what I think he was. The other videos only showed part of his arm.
    Because he killed a woman and we don't even know if he was a guard, or if he was involved with Antifa. What is the government hiding?
    How do we know that? All we get from the government are the lies they feed us through their propaganda networks.
    Ashly didn't break the window, so why didn't the assassin shoot the ones who broke it? Also when the others entered, why weren't they shot as well?
     
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    Doesn't change that you're bending in what I say into something I didn't say on purpose to claim it's not true.
    And I'm ignoring your wish for me to produce that number you seek, because you can't say why it's relevant.
     
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    By making them vote an other way.

    Well for starters: they attacked the cops and killed one. You keep on pushing that white fascist agenda by downplaying what went on.

    You say that, to than flip flop and claim it's only a "break in, take photos and cause major disruption" and leaving out 90%.

    Oh sure... they by accident disrupted a political process when they were only there to take a picture.
    That's what tourists "always" do when they beet up cops in an attempt to kill them.

    Sounds like this is still part of the white fascist agenda you agreed to support.
    Nobody is going to believe this total nonsense.
     
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    That's not the post I made to Poohbear, where I am right... and you endlessly claimed I am wrong/

    My point is: .... they do not shoot white fascists who were brutally assaulting the cops and attempted to kill them.
    You can brutally assault a cop with bats and fire extinguisher and kill them... as what happened.

    You're just knee jerking around here. lol

    You made no argument why it's important to know if there were 1 or 21 white fascists killing cops.

    I proved the police is the riot police with just different gear.

    The articles aren't left. That's what you're making up out of nowhere.
    And the articles are the evidence, while you nothing to rebuke except the biased account of the culprits.
    So my sources trumps yours.
     
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    Forget about Poohbear! You were talking to ME! And you wrongly stated that I claimed that "some shops" equals "an entire city!"

    Because they're not allowed to just shoot and kill anyone for anything, even if they are being violent. And you can't say that ANY of the rioters were actually trying to KILL the cops. Do you seriously think that if an officer witnessed one of them stabbing another officer, that they wouldn't have fired at the rioter and would have simply allowed the rioter to kill their fellow cop?

    The fire extinguisher death was not accurate: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brian-sicknick-fire-extinguisher/

    Well if it was only one, then you wouldn't be able to talk about fascistS killing cops! You would have to say the singular, 'fascist! But you don't know that it was even ONE fascist! :roflol:

    Different gear = different role! Otherwise why do they have different gear? :roflol:

    Actually, The Guardian is a left wing outlet. https://www.allsides.com/news-source/guardian

    The problem is that news sources NEED sources for their reporting. Those article which you linked to do not say how they KNOW that the protest was peaceful! Looks like you'll accept anything that the media tells you without demanding evidence! :roflol:
     
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    By making DEAD Congress people vote another way? Interesting! :roflol:

    I was talking about what the rioters did once they got into the building. But of course, the attacking of the police outside beforehand was EVIL. Evil pieces of human waste violently attacked police in order to break into the Capitol building, wreaking havoc, and causing people to fear for their lives. It was an insurrection and an assault on democracy. Meanwhile, here is your GREAT description of the BLM riots: "a footlocker was ransacked and some windows and TV's were broken." :roflol:

    What else did they ACTUALLY do? What is this 90% that I have missed?

    No, it was no accident. It was a planned disturbance.

    It's not illegal for tourists to take photos during a tour. It IS illegal to BREAK IN to Congress in order to take photos.
     
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    Well if only one single person in Trump's crowd committed domestic violence, then why would that be a problem?
    But you have ZERO evidence that even ONE SINGLE person in Trump's crowd committed domestic violence!:roflol:
     
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    Imagine posting gateway pundit and expect to be taken seriously lol. Worse yet imagine shilling for a dead terrorist.
     
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    In this climate, I would say yes. And there would have to be an investigation, etc. Crickets here.
     
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    There was an investigation.
     
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    Uh, no. I replied to Poohbear, and my reply is to be read in that context.
    Not in the context of when you jumped into that discussion.
    Should be going without saying...

    They killed one, and a LOT of others got seriously hurt. Epic images of a cop lying faced down, being beaten by clubs, went global. Just like the other cop who they ripped off his gas mask while they were busy crushing him so hard that he moaned in total agony.

    You're in no position to deny how violent that white fascist mob was.
    I note that you stick to systematically downplaying what went on.
    It's on par of inserting fake fascist news.

    Snopes only comes up with 1 unnamed source disputing what went on, while the Capitol police sticks to that that Sicknick had been injured while physically engaging with protesters and collapsed as a result of his injuries sometime after returning to his office.

    My point is: .... they do not shoot white fascists who were brutally assaulting the cops and attempted to kill them.

    The exact number is your point, and you have not come up with why this is relevant.

    They are still the same cops, and that's what matters to the point that cops have no problem shooting fleeing black men in the back, but do not shoot at white fascists who are attempting to kill cops.

    And the NPR is rather neutral.

    They don't need sources when you can see on video what went on.
    You only got your utterly biased source from the culprits. Total joke to honesty.
     
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    It's your opinion that they were out to kill them. You flip flop between that narrative and the narrative of just taking photo's within 1 post ... it's whatever flies to your alternative reality.

    You calling the fascist insurrection "tourists" who just broke in to "take photos"... totally justifies me downplaying the BLM protests.
    Them fascists you're downplaying -for the sake to push a white fascist agenda- were chanting to hang the vice president,
    and also yelling "where are they", "where is Nancy". It kind of went global....
    You can troll all you want that they just wanted to take a selfie.
    But you're not going to convince anybody except white fascists.
     
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    What if the government released a name - would you believe them?

    When did they enter?
     
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    If the police and FBI gave us all the details about the assassin, as well as those who were arrested for entering the Capitol Bldg; and if they told us how many of them were just observers, and how many of them damaged properties and if they belonged to an organization and what it is, then they might get some credibility. Now they have none.

    Immediately after Ashli was shot according to John Sullivan's video.

    Also, if entering the Capital Building is such a horrific crime, and innocent lives have to be ruined because of it, then why is Joe Biden given a free pass after admitting he did it when he was 21?

    Maybe he should be impeached?

    https://twitter.com/mbracemoore/sta...torming-senate-chamber-age-21-arrested-video/

     
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    When you're busy with a violent insurrection, beating the police out of your way, in an attempt to alter the democratic outcome of the presidential elections.... than you're not "innocent" at all. What Biden did, according to his own account,... is not remotely close to what that violent fascist mob did. That should go without saying... but here you are...
     
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    I can't understand some posters and where they are getting their information from? First of all the only cop that was killed as far as I know, was a Trump supporter so it certainly wasn't them. I gather that whoever killed him knew that - maybe from inside the police force which is highly infiltrated with BLM and their affiliates.

    Also it's strange that the only other person killed was also a Trump supporter. She was shot, and not those who broke the glass who were probably members of Antifa. Very, very suspicious to me.

    Also according to the videos I saw, the police removed the barricades and allowed the protesters to enter. In one video they did so after John Sullivan who is an Antifa organizer spoke to them.
     
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    I can't understand some posters and where they are getting their information from.
    I doubt you can prove what I put up in red with a source.


    It's not strange that the only person shot was a Trump supporters, as the bulk were MAGA hat wearing Trump supporters who attacked the police.
     
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    (CNN)Six US Capitol Police officers have been suspended with pay, and 29 others have been placed under investigation, for their actions in the January 6 riot, a department spokesman said Thursday.

    And John Sullivan the Antifa and BLM organizer said in his video that he donned a MAGA hat. If he donned a MAGA hat, don't you think his followers did as well?


     
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    This is pathetic now, no one cares about this boogeyman you keep mentioning, your side is responsible for the insurrection.
     
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    sure sure.... but thats a far cry of proving BLM infiltrated the police force and proving the storming of the capitol was a BLM thing.

    We all know LOADS of far right wing activists were there.
     
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    If people didn't care about the government's spins and lies, Trump wouldn't be cheered by such massive crowds, and Biden wouldn't need the protection of 20 thousand troops.



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    Trump lost and it wasn't even close. Get used to it and like it :)
     
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    The video clearly showed no weapon in her hands. She was using both to climb through. Yes, it was STUPID... the whole protest was stupid but that rent-a-cop drew down carefully and shot her dead for breaching his little barrier. Had there been any shooting prior to her actions then I'd agree that he was justified. That threat clearly did NOT exist.
    He was not trained or poorly trained and he lost his composure and killed where it was not necessary. That kind of behavior is being justified in media and by politicians and IMO, it's just a matter of time before we see thugs from the alphabet agencies rounding up "domestic terrorists" whose only action is to make their anger known online. Watch it begin. Trash like Brennan are gleeful over it.
     

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