Unions having buyer's remorse after Biden cancels Keystone XL

Ahhhhh, no.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/myth-busting-the-trump-economy.584387/

https://factcheck.afp.com/posts-inflate-job-losses-bidens-keystone-pipeline-reversal

 

I thought the XL pipeline was only a temporary employment position? Because once it's built, it's over.

 

Correct. That trade war brought corporations back to the U.S. where it created more jobs. There are businesses that suffered some. But, the fact is more jobs were created and they were good paying jobs in manufacturing as well. Places like Fry's lost places to get their merchandise from. But that was their problem buying too heavily from China in the first place.

 

if congress wants to pass a bipartisan bill allowing it, they can - time will tell if Republicans really want this or not

sure the truck drivers Unions are ecstatic over this, as it will create many many more jobs

 

Well, since consumer prices haven't spiked up and are still very low (inflation and interest rates) I think your fact checker has some screws loose. The fact is, there are more manufacturing jobs now and remember that Obama said they would never come back. He was wrong as you are. The line spiked up and the unemployment fell to record lows, especially for blacks, hispanics, women and youth. Not that Biden is reversing everything, we will see unemployment not come back for minorities, women and youth after the shutdowns are done. And then there is the income increases over the past 4 years because of the Trump economy of $6,000 per family. The wealth gap also shrunk between the rich and everyone else. You can't claim Obama's economy did that and then trash Trump for continuing it if that's what you are saying. But, that's exactly what your are saying. So, you need to stop Trashing Trump because Trump continued Obama's path to a strong economy. Although, we know that isn't true that Obama had anything to do with any strong economy. The reason the economy came back in his 8 years is because of the private sector ignoring his buffoonery. We did it inspite of Obama.

 

Let's compare notes.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.br...-how-the-us-china-trade-war-hurt-america/amp/

Your link please.

 

yep, the pipeline is built to kill jobs in the long term, not create them

 

Those do require maintenance but like every construction job, once it's built, it's over. Once a house is built, it's over. Once a skyrise is built, it's over for those workers also. Then they move on to another job. Keystone and other pipelines can take years to construct and require a multitude of employees of different skills to do along with the indirect employees such as manufacturers of materials and the trucks to transport it.

 

That's a ridiculous statement. Can you explain?

 

Did you even read the article you linked to? It says:

Is 11,000 good paying jobs crumbs to you?

 

I could be wrong... but I think that these unions may well get some pretty good news before April 1, 2021...... March 4, 2021 is supposed to be significant....... but sometimes significant events occur....... that you and I do not hear about until later on?!

 

I am not sure what you're referring to?

 

3/4/21 will come and go like any other day and a new theory will get created as the goalposts get moved again

 

Qanon

https://www.distractify.com/p/what-is-happening-on-march-4-2021

 

I just sent you a personal note to elaborate......... minimum I think you may get something of a laugh out of the theory.......

 

The pipeline was not scheduled to be completed until 2023 so why would the jobs jump from 1,000 to 11,000 in 2021. It certainly isn't going to take 11,000 employees to build the pipeline ,maybe you are anticipating a very high turnover rate like Dirty Donald had during his administration????

 

How many pipelines have you worked on?

 

what a ridiculous question <see I can do that too>

they do not create pipelines to create jobs, they create it to cut costs, which means killing many jobs involved in transportation of the oil by other means

 

And most of the tar sand oil will be exported and won't even stay here for use. Basically, we get the honor of cleaning up spills when the pipelines leak while only getting some temporary jobs. Oh but those spills result in more job creation! Major win for us!

 

In order to get a pipeline, a pipeline must be constructed and then maintained which construction will take thousands of employees and years. It does not magically appear. It must be built.

 

yep, and once it's constructed it kills many many jobs, many more then it creates

 

So you'd prefer we transport oil in the most inefficient and dangerous way?

 

I thought this was about jobs, are you moving the goal post now that you realize I am correct?

I will agree that a pipeline is probably safer than trucks and rails for transport, though both seems to have a pretty good track record

 

It is about jobs. You want to ignore the 11,000 jobs that would take to build it to justify transporting it by truck indefinitely. I bet at the same time you are glad we are back in the Paris accord.

 

I never ignored those, I said if the pipeline is built it will kill more jobs than it creates, that is just a fact

I am glad we are back in the Paris accord

this is about jobs, like I said, I agree with your other issues, but that is not what is being debated here