UN's Navi Pillay warns of Israel Gaza 'war crimes'

Navi Pillary certainly did not mince her words when talking today she has condemned both Israel and Hamas.
The question is can the Israelis afford the negative publicity of the UNs top humanitarian representative openly condemning the targeting of civilians. Only the USA voted against the motion for an investigation, is Israel losing the propaganda war? It is easy to portray Hamas as an Islamic fundamentalist's but are they the product of Israeli intransigence and colonial aspirations?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28437626

I feel that Israel has gone too far this time, the images coming from the combat zone have drawn attention to the Palestinians plight.

 

Palestinians shoot rockets from densely packed urban areas, and then when they get their asses bombed by Israelis, they stream into the streets pulling their hair out, an crying for the cameras.

The Israelis make life unbearable and inhumane for the Palestinians, and when they get hit by a car bomb, they come streaming into the streets, pulling their hair out and crying for the cameras.

The cycle of stupidity and barbaric behavior continues.

Let them wipe one another off the face of the earth, we will be better off without both of them.

 

Hamas has only one goal, destruction of Israel. Anything that happens to the people of Gaza they think is fine, as long as it can be used for propaganda.

 

I feel it likely that Israel is beginning to reach the point where they don't much care what the UN has to say. They know that they may be condemned and possibly embargoed, but they also know that there's no chance western nations are going to militarily intervene, no matter what they do and no matter what the UN says.

 

Israel has only one goal, destruction of Palestine. Anything that happens to their people is fine, as long as it can be used for propaganda.

 

Israel is loosing the PR war from the moment they entered Gaza.

What choice did they have Hamas was trying to invade through cross-border tunnels?

But now when the Israeli soldiers come under fire they can't return fire without hitting civilians in Gaza. Hundreds are going to die now, including dozens of Israeli soldiers.

I'm under the impression it's going to take months to flatten all the tunnels. It's going to be bad and ugly, that's what I think.

 

Yep, yep. Israel pays a close hear to the UN only when it blames Palestinians. They see themselves as over the laws of mere goyim.

 

Pardon me?

Hamas was attempting to invade Israel?

 

YEs! That's right, you heard me Israel's ground assault was a response to an invasion attempt.

 

Ha ha. You almost got me there, you prankster.

 

Hamas was trying to stop rocket attacks from separate militants. They didn't really start fighting until Israel killed one of their top guys who was in the middle of trying to stop another rocket attack.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/hamas-establishes-special-force-to-prevent-rocket-fire/#ixzz37MFA5sKO

 

You only wish it were a joke because you have nothing to say about those tunnels under the Gaza-Israel border.

 

It's useless. Most arab-haters here have made their minds, and refuse to think of Palestinians as humans, but rather as an insectoid hive or something to that effect, where every individual is plugged directly to the "queen's" pheromonic commands. Dis-humanization of the opposition is a time honored tradition among extremists, and is essential to keep one's conscience numbed.

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Ha ha. It's okay. I get it, you party animal you.

 

Are you okay, because I have to tell you I'm not the one who's been partying here...

 

That's not really relevant to the situation at hand. Whatever anyone's politics or what they choose to hear or not to hear, a sovereign nation will only permit terroristic acts to continue within its territory for a finite period of time before the pressure becomes too much to bear, at which point they will either elect very radical leaders who will remove the threat with prejudice or convince their current leaders to do so.

 

I don't see the irrelevance.

That's true, and it applies to both sides of this conflict. But only the US's unilateral backing permits Israel such arrogance face to international laws.

 

Amen
10char

 

It's irrelevant because the UN is irrelevant in the situation. I don't believe that sanctions from the UN are going to be able to bring more pressure upon the israeli public at large than nonstop daily rocket fire is.

It does not. Israel's arrogance in the face of international law is more derived from the fact that they likely have a fairly large arsenal of nuclear weapons than it is anything else. The US' unilateral backing of israel is far more likely to be a moderating force than it is to make them more brazen with the palestinians, e.g. if Israel saw no benefit to allowing the status quo to continue insofar as the palestinians having any sort of occupational rights within their territory, that benefit being a relationship with the united states, they may chose to exile them all. I think that would be far more likely without the US relationship. They and any other military force knows that, even though Israel is small and not incredibly populous, any UN force sent there to try to enforce any security council resolution would likely be met with incredibly costly resistance. Bottom line, yes, if there was a large coalition of powerful countries they *might* be able to enforce some sort of resolution there, but it would possibly lead to a nuclear release (if israel thought they were about to get conquered) and that would demand either a retreat or a retaliation in kind, which would kill the palestinians, as well as the israelis, which would render the entire thing moot. Israel is in the best position here strategically and tactically in my opinion, though they are suffering harm currently from a vastly inferior force.

 

I don't think the UN will even get to sanctions - the US will oppose their veto in any case.

I more or less believe that: Israel is a powerful nation, yes, but it lacks endurence (and furthermore I have more interrogation about the quality of its training as well, given that as soon as they face a minimaly organized force, like Hisbollah, they are in dire straits). Like many people say, Israel needs to lost just one war and they are finished.

As for the nukes, I don't believe that Israel will ever use them, unless they get a real desperate fellow as a leader. Can you imagine how the diaspora Jews are going to pay for it if Israel uses them?

I appreciate your intelligence and subtility, js1080.

 

Memorandum

To: Navi Pillary
cc: United Nations
From: Israel
Re.: Gaza


Go Fock Yourself !

Sincerely
Israel

Moi likes this Memo

The U.N. has never, ever, defended Israel's right to exist since the 2/3rds General Assembly vote to partition Palestine.


Moi


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I didn't know where you were all these days, but your post gave me a good laugh.

As for the subject, I don't know what to say. How can I defend the Palestinians when I know that Islam considers any land a Muslim has lived on as Holy land and must be retained, or retaken at any cost...even at the the cost of their own children's lives. Yet at the same time, I think Israel's intent on what it's doing, other than its security, are the gas fields in Gaza's territorial waters which is kind of cruel because the Palestinians are suffering a great deprivation.

 

UN has never ever done as Israel tells them more like!

Still it is nice to see an honest reponse

 

Sure.
Here is another example.
http://news.yahoo.com/rockets-found-un-gaza-school-went-missing-010208751.html
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. secretary-general on Wednesday said he was "alarmed" to hear that rockets were placed in a U.N.-run school in Gaza and now "have gone missing," and he demanded a full review of such incidents.



Surprise. Surprise. Surprise.
We know the Israelis don't have them.


Moi

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When the Palestinians break every international law and every article of the Geneva Conventions they are sending exactly the same message. When every Arab country commits war crimes, violates human rights and humanitarian laws, they send exactly the same message...When western countries bomb Afghanistan or Libya or Iraq, their message to the UN is not any different. Give me one good reason why Israel should be an exception?


Perhaps when the UN and Navi Pillary provide Israel with viable protection against kidnappings and rocket attacks, perhaps then Israel's message will change. Until then, the message to the UN is the same as it is from any other country on the planet, f*ck off and let us protect our country and our people the way we see fit.

 

haa!!!! let us know when war crimes charges are leveled against Hamas.