US jets bomb Assad tank convoy advancing on coalition base in Syria

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  1. goody

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    Not as much unhappy with the fact that US being there.
     
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    And you claim to be from Turkey? BULL-SH-T.

    No one from Turkey supports either assad or putie boy, you are utterly non-credible.
     
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    The Americans aren't in Turkey as refugees.

    So you are a fan of Assad? Did you admire his father?
     
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    What are iranian troops doing in syria? Did the syrian people, 85% of which are sunni, vote for them? I doubt it.
     
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    Not with Turkey, who despises assad and wants him gone. Those who are authentically Turkish know this, others who pretend to be don't.
     
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    Assad is good. He needs to stay there.
     
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    The same can be said about iran, only they make it 1,000 times worse.
     
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    I'm Chinese.
     
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    Wasn't Obama attacked by Repub supporters for doing exactly the same thing that Trump is doing now? How many posts have there been saying that Obama armed ISIS via the arms supplied to the 'moderate' rebels. Have you not noticed that the attacks by the west on Assad's regime has increased just when ISIS looked like losing?

    I don't remember many R's or D's supporters coming out against the Arab Spring - I remember of being in the minority in forums such as this one (was in Myspace at the time)
     
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    Not surprising that a water carrier for the fake iranian regime claims assad is a "legitimate leader" or that he is the "preferred choice." Hilarious.

    This is becoming a joke, how many times does this lie have to be crushed in how many threads before you stop espousing it?
     
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    So then stop speaking for Turkey when you clearly know NOTHING about it, or its politics.
     
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    That poster exists in a different universe; facts are of little value - just endless puffery and nonsense on behalf of the iranian regime. Its like listening to a tape recorder, just repeats the same garbage over and over.
     
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    Some people are not very knowledgeable; they are unaware of various treaties like the Right to Protect which allows the US and others to intervene in such cases where a government is mass slaughtering people.
     
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    Lets imagine Iran stops supporting Hezbollah, Assad and the Shia groups in Iraq. What happens? What would be the likely consequence of it if Iran is actually neutralized.

    In Lebanon, are you going to have a peaceful change in the constitution that right now marginalizes and disenfranchises the Shia? Or will the Shia will simply have to accept being marginalized in a country where they make up the largest sect. Will the dynamics cause another civil war in Syria? What will actually happen?

    On Israel, with Iran and the axis of resistance out of the picture, will there be anyone to counter balance the Israelis? Or are we going to go back to the situation before Hezbollah's rise, with Israel giving itself the right to invade Lebanon at its choosing, occupying parts of Lebanon, and working with the US to install a minority philangist dictatorship like the one they wanted to impose on Lebanon in the 1980s? Would Israel be less emboldened, or more emboldened, to simply go through with its plans for a Greater Israel and ethnically cleanse the West Bank at a faster pace then it is doing now? And how is that going to be received in the region?

    In Iraq, in Iran's absence, won't the Saudis come up with some ridiculous excuse, like the ones Margot offers to "justify" their intervention on behalf of a Sunni dictatorship ruling over a shia majority that doesn't want the dictatorship, to justify and help prop up another Saddam to rule over that country? How is that going to create any long term stability in Iraq? In the meantime, without Iran, who would have done the heavy lifting against a group like ISIS when they were about to take over the entire country, only to be stopped because of Iran's help.

    And in Syria, what would have have happened if Iran had not come to help Assad before the Russians also joined? What kind of a regime would have come to power there? Don't tell me that the ruler of Syria today would be some Jeffersonian democrat. If not ISIS itself, the best the Syrians could have hoped for in that equation was getting stuck with some group like the Taliban ruling over them.

    There was an article, before the nuclear deal with Iran, that actually made the point succinctly and accurately.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/04/opinion/leverett-iran-relations/
    Why Iran's rise is a good thing

     
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    You'd be right if it wasn't almost TEN YEARS between the iraq war and the syrian civil war. I heard an egg dropped in Damascus on Tuesday, was that America's fault also?
     
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    Most Arab states think Hezbollah has outlived its mission and is now an obstacle to peace in Palestine.
     
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    The endless wars and terrorism in the mideast would be significantly reduced.

    So the shia have a "special privilege" to massacre and terrorize everyone else because they felt aggrieved?

    WTF appointed iran to "counter-balance" Israel? I must have missed the vote that granted iran the position of Master of The Mideast to decide who can do what there.

    Oh, you must have forgotten how lebanon was shelling Israel and conducting terrorist attacks from there for years before it invaded. Those little details...

    If Israel wanted to conquer a larger area, it would have done so decades ago. Funny how you accuse israel of imperialistic tendencies while defending iran's terrorist proxy armies raging across the region.

    Hmmmmm....sounds alot like your ridiculous garbage excuse about how the 85% sunni pop of syria should be ruled by assad...

    isis exists because of iran.

    The FSA was 200K strong moderate sunnis from syria, it was not iran's place to intervene.

    And you claim that assad is, or that the cancerous regime of iran is, both of which are pathetic nonsense.
     
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    So, we involved ourselves with setting up this coup, never really went after ISIS and other radical islamists, using them as proxies, while the other hand proclaimed what a great threat they are, creating this refugee problem, enabling it, abetting it, complicit in it, and you say then the refugee problem gives us a right to go into Syria? LOL You think like crime family. You think like a criminal.

    Here is the greater problem. All of this evil we have committed, all of these international a laws we refuse to obey, all of this meddling, death and destruction on behalf of a small group of very rich elites, has to come back to bite America in the arse, with even greater problems for us, in a nation in new territory when it comes to debt, as we will be spending trillions more over time with our war mongering on behalf of special interests in America. As our nation's infrastructure literally rusts and rots.

    Trump did not run on what we are seeing from him in foreign policy. Somehow the neocons subverted him, corrupted him, and the only time the Faux Press ramps down the pressure is when he does the bidding of the neocons. If he does not keep the war mongering active, the Intel/MSM Complex will create new attacks by leaks to the WP or NYT.


    Well, we, America, we got it coming. And karmic forces don't give a damn if it is America who gets paid back, in evil, for the evil we commit.

    I see the American empire in trouble. It is going the way all empires go. Only question is, will it die with a whimper or a bang? Looks like the end will come with a bang, a nuclear bang, since the DC neocons are entertaining the idea we can win a nuclear exchange. MAD? Forget about it. For Russia will surely not destroy ye. You can sanction them and collude to keep oil prices low, and literally starve them to death in vast numbers, waging that kind of war and they will just take the end of their country, with no kick back. Except if they go down as a nation, with NATO forces on their borders ready to pounce, everyone here will be dead. But you can beat your chest like a gorilla right up until the nukes go off, and you can die between your fists thumping on your chest as the testosterone courses through your blood, right up to your reptilian brain. And it isn't like you war mongers didn't deserve it. For you do. But my grandkids do not deserve it. They would die because of irresponsible political stupidity, and trump hate.
     
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    You made a ludicrous claim, and got called out on it. If I had time I'd fine your other post where you claimed to be from Turkey, and call you out on that as well.
     
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    Neither the US nor anyone else had anything to do with Assad's arrest and torture of the school boys in Deraa or his subsequent killing of protestors..

    LOLOL who do YOU think is colluding to keep oil prices low? If anything the US and KSA are trying to lift the ppb up to $50.
     
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    The only moderates in Syria was the assad gov't. A moderate sunni is an oxymoron. The actual moderate sunnis in Syria supported assad. The opposition to assad is opposition to protecting all religions from sunni islam. This opposition including the contrived FSA don't want secular gov't. Only a fool who has not informed themselves would believe such nonsense.
     
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    I think this poster has achieved "jeannette"-level non-credibility. My ignore list looks hungry today...
     
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    If you had ANY clue about the mideast or syria before 2010 - which many pro-assad boot lickers seem to think was really Paris until the isis savages rolled across the border - you'd never even think to make such a statement. There was nothing moderate about assad or syria before the civil war, you just managed to survive a state tightly controlled by a security apparatus that you hoped never noticed you, your money, or your wife/daughters.
     
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    You don't know what you are talking about. Assad doesn't give a fig about religion.. He crushes ALL dissenters. He has lots of Christians in his prisons.
     
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    EVERY TIME there is a seeming pathway to a peace treaty between israel and the arabs, hamas conducts a terrorist attack at the behest of its paymasters in teheran.

    There are few things more nauseating than seeing the iranian dogs claim they would "abide by any treaty the pals make with Israel", yet they do everything they can to scuttle any attempts to conclude such a deal.

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    I should also mention to the forum readership how it is utter garbage how iran or assad gives a crap about the pals; he bombed them fiercely in Latakia in syria not long ago, and elsewhere.

    The pals are a tool of convenience so that scumholes like iran can hide behind the fig leaf of "protecting the pals" while running terrorist groups all over the mideast.
     

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