US, Turkey plan for worst-case scenarios in Syria

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    By MATTHEW LEE | Associated Press – 52 mins ago

    http://news.yahoo.com/us-turkey-plan-worst-case-scenarios-syria-115102431.html

    ISTANBUL (AP) — U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Turkey's foreign minister said Saturday that their countries are creating a formal structure to plan for worst-case scenarios in Syria, including a possible chemical weapons attack on regime opponents.

    Clinton and Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said their two nations would set up a working group to respond to the crisis in Syria as conditions there deteriorate. They said the group will coordinate military, intelligence and political responses to the potential fallout in the case of a chemical attack, which would result in medical emergencies and a likely rise in the number of refugees fleeing Syria.

    "We have been closely coordinating over the course of this conflict, but now we need to get into the real details of such operational planning. It needs to be across both of our governments," Clinton said.

    She said the U.S. State Department and Turkey's Foreign Ministry had already been working together on the issue but that the new working group would increase the involvement of the intelligence services and militaries of both countries.

    Among the contingencies that the U.S. and Turkey agree on the need to plan for is "the horrible event" that chemical weapons are used, Clinton said.

    "What would that mean in terms of response, humanitarian and medical emergency assistance and, of course, what needs to be done to secure those stocks from ever being used or falling into the wrong hands?" Clinton said.

    In July, Syria's foreign ministry spokesman threatened the use of chemical and biological weapons in case of a foreign attack, assuring that government would never use them against its own citizens. It was the first acknowledgement that Syria possesses weapons of mass destruction, something that's long been suspected.

    Later, the Syrian government attempted to back away from the announcement and revert to its previous position of neither confirming nor denying the existence of unconventional weapons.

    Syria is believed to have nerve agents as well as mustard gas, Scud missiles capable of delivering lethal chemicals and a variety of advanced conventional arms, including portable anti-aircraft missiles.

    Clinton said it was important not to take actions that could "catalyze even greater and more horrible kinds of assaults," and that she and Davutoglu discussed a "very long list" of issues on Syria.

    "We have to be very careful and we have to do it in a way that always keeps in mind our goal — number one is to hasten the end of the bloodshed and the Assad regime," she said.

    Davutoglu hinted at the possibility of setting up a so-called "safe zone" inside Syria if the humanitarian crisis, which has already claimed thousands of lives, triggers a massive flow of refugees who are vulnerable to attack by regime forces. He said 55,000 Syrians have sought refuge in neighboring Turkey, and that 2,000-3,000 were arriving daily. Recent arrivals came from the besieged Syrian city of Aleppo and surrounding villages, while others have come from Idlib and Latakia. Many more have fled to Jordan, Lebanon and Iraq.

    "If there is a huge wave of refugee migration, then we need to maybe establish a mechanism within Syria in order to ensure humanitarian protection," he said. "Of course, we might try to protect people if they seek refuge in our territory, but if they have to live under continuous bombardment every day, if they are exposed to air strikes every day, and bombardment every day, this might even be considered a war crime."

    Davutoglu said without elaborating: "In such a case, the international community can no longer keep its silence and there are certain measures that need to be taken up ... We need to brace for impact."

    In addition to planning for potential catastrophes, Clinton and Davutoglu stressed the importance of preparing for a political transition that does not compromise state institutions that will be needed to maintain security and provide key services under a new leadership that would replace President Bashar Assad. Clinton said a new Syria will need to protect the rights of all Syrians regardless of religion, gender or ethnicity.

    Both nations are concerned about extremist groups taking advantage of any power vacuum in Syria that could follow Assad's eventual departure. The Turks are particularly concerned about the Kurdish rebel group PKK, which already has bases in northern Iraq, from which it launches cross-border attacks on Turkish targets in its campaign for autonomy for the ethnic minority.

    "We share Turkey's determination that Syria must not become a haven for PKK terrorists whether now or after the departure of the Assad regime," Clinton said.

    Before they spoke to reporters, Clinton and Davutoglu met Syrian refugees to discuss their needs and Clinton met separately with six opposition activists, including three who fled the country within the past month. She said she came away from the meeting impressed with their desire to build a democratic society in Syria.

    However, some of the recent arrivals in Turkey expressed concern about an apparent lack of unity among opposition leaders outside Syria.
     
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    It sounds like things are turning ugly.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    it looks like the new world order hillary is carving up the middle east map and giving turkey a slice of syria.
     
  4. Ivan88

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    Yes, of course, just like the nice "democratic society" of cutthroats the US recently installed in Libya.
     
  5. Mario Milano

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    Gee dude Killary Clinton turns up it is natural that things turn ugly. Everything about that woman is satanic! here is a clue to see how evil that woman is, just google- Clinton Body count! It is like putting a big fat smelly turd right in the middle of your lounge room floor, you know full well where the smell is coming from!


    The Clinton Body Count
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/BODIES.html
     
  6. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm no fan of Hillary either, but Snopes has already debunked that one.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/clintons/bodycount.asp
     
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    i say new world order wants the old ottoman empire back look at the map here egypt and syria where in its old borders
    http://www.naqshbandi.org/ottomans/maps/expansionmap.gif
    now after the smaller countrys get swollowed up around the globe its easier to gahter the larger pies together to creat the new large pie
     
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    I'm curious as to whether Assad is mean enough to use mustard gas on babies. Saddam used nerve gas on the Kurds, so it wouldn't be the first time a brutal dictator poisoned his own people in that part of the world.
     
  9. Mario Milano

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    Oh really? let me guess all those dead bodies (including kids that were in the wrong place at the wrong time) that had dirt on the Clintons just suicided themselves ....right?

    Just read the article clown and you try to debunk it, I bet you can't hence why you try to lead us off on some fairytale that someone else debunked it.
     
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    Seriously, read the link. It does debunk it all.
     
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    Seriously, read the link. It does debunk it all.
     
  12. Mario Milano

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    heh heh mandy is all so worried about Syrian babies but was all for killing half a million Iraq babies because a revolting jew said so on tv. Gee dude can ya make your mind up?

    Madeleine Albright Says Deaths Of 500000 Iraqi Children Is Worth It

    [video=youtube;R0WDCYcUJ4o]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0WDCYcUJ4o[/video]
     
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    I did read it a while ago and it is a bigger load of crap than popular mechanics trying to debunk that 9/11 wasn't a jew job!
     
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    We already know how the US uses all sorts of awful chemical weapons on civilians of all ages.

    n 1862 Sherman wrote his wife that his purpose in the war would be "extermination, not of soldiers alone, that is the least of the trouble, but the people" of the South.

    His wife wrote back that her wish was for "a war of extermination and that all [Southerners] would be driven like swine into the sea. May we carry fire and sword into their states till not one habitation is left standing."

    Sherman elsewhere declared "We are not fighting against enemy armies, but against an enemy people, both young and old, rich and poor, and they must feel the iron hand of war in the same way as organized armies."

    The US has applied this in most/all of their wars.

    Whether it is starvation and exposure, white phosphorous, defoliants, napalm, other exotic chemicals used on the Iraqis, and nuclear, the US routinely uses them on children and adults.

    Don't for get that the nerve gas supposedly used by Saddam, came from the USA.

    The British were bombing Iraqis with chemical weapons in the 1920's.

    Any yankee whining about others using chemical weapons is a complete hypocrit.

    Most likely, if chemical weapons are used in Syria, it will be at the guidance, behest, supply and support of the USA and its Saudi/Israeli partners in sponsoring terrorism.
     
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    The only reason Mandy is concerned about Syrian babies is that more of them are not being killed by his terrorist fake-Muslim buddies attacking Syria.
    Maybe his character is revealed in his avatar: View attachment 14599
     
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    Turkey started the whole mess in Syria in order to get a slice of it. That was part of Erdogan and Devotoglus plan. Assad, Iran and Russia knew that, and that's why Russia and China insisted that the borders of Syria remain intact. Since Kofi Annan wasn't willing to go along with the Arab states, he was pressured to resign. Assad warned Turkey it's opening up a pandora's box and to be careful after he spoke to Putin, but Turkey didn't heed it and continued its subversive actions towards Syria. Well, the towns near the border and where the Kurds live, have been handed to them by Assad, and the Turks are now panic stricken. They would like to go to war, but know they don't have the strength to do so without our help, since Congress continues to block arms shipments to them because of their unwillingness to comply with international laws.

    There are twelve to twenty million Kurds in Turkey that border on the Syrian Kurdish areas, so they have a big problem. There is a major battle going on in a part of Turkey that borders Iran with the Kurds, and Iran has also now warned Turkey that it will be next to break up. What Turkey has done, is now backfiring on it full force, and in the end Turkey might really cease to exist, and the Turks are well aware of it. Not only are there millions of Kurds, but also Alevis that have been suppressed as well as others. Among the Kurdish fighters caught in the battle that has now been raging for twelve days, and in which no reporter is allowed near, they have found Iranian Kurds, Iraqi Kurds as well as Armenians. Turkey is not very well loved and for a very good reason.

    One of their columnists said that many Turkish pilots are resigning, no doubt because of the set up of the Kurdish Turkish pilot that was shot down by Syria. Everything said by the Turkish military so far, has been found out to be a lie. But then again they lie about everything. For instance, in all their papers they keep mentioning the Nato radar near Iran, and how the U.S, asked them, when Hillary said Turkey was the one that asked Nato if it could install it. Another lie I read in the Turkish papers, is how the Americans offered them part of Northern Iraq if they helped Bush invade, and how they turned it down when in reality, the reason they didn't help the U.S. army was because we refused to give them a chunk of Iraq. Lies, lies, lies and more lies. But what else is new?
    :frustrated:
     
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    Look, the agenda has been set.

    The Bilderberg Group has decided their policy for the Middle East and so that policy will be enacted. Just like the Bilderbergers discussed the need to create a European Union and a single European currency (Euro) and it happened exactly as they planned. Link to the document in PDF form here - Bilderberg EU and single currency plans - 1955

    Because some people always want "evidence".....:roll:

    The Council on Foreign relations and the Trilateral commission are all playing their part. Their policy is always to weaken nation states, put puppets into power that they control, and then play them off other countries to bring the world to its knees and usher in new forms of world government.

    The puppets we call "world leaders" or "presidents" or "prime ministers" are acting out their minuscule roles in the grand chessboard.

    Syria will of course be destabilized due to their close ties with Russia and Iran. Iran being the final goal in the Middle East. Haven't people realized after Iraq, Libya and now Syria, that the western agenda is simply going after countries that don't play ball with the international strong hold?
     
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    I think I said this before: I'm no fan of Hillary, or Bill for that matter. And yes I have read it before. Nevertheless, it has been debunked. Snopes has a pretty good reputation for determining whether something is true or not and doesn't appear to have any kind of agenda. They're like the Web version of Mythbusters. I guess I can understand why you'd be a bit afraid of them.
     
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    whats funny here, thats Turkey is only one country in region uses chemical weapons against Kurdish resistance on daily basis , your article is just a wahhabi propaganda
     
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    Of course we realize it, they were on tv saying it a few years ago but the JIDF clowns on this board want to pretend what we heard Clark say they are trying to convince us that our ears are lying, even though we can just google it! (what a bunch of dorks)

    "We're going to take out seven countries in 5 years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran"-- General Wesley Clark
     
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    Well that explains snopes down to a freakin T doesn't it? Mythbusters (and it is on the site) They will NOT investigate anything at all to do with 9/11...Gee I wonder why? Me thinks they have been ordered too by their Jew owned station...why else wouldn't they?
     
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    Isn't that something? The case was built up that most of the people of Libya hated the government of Gaddafi but as is always the case, Magog and Magog lied and hid the reality of who they were supporting just to get their grubby little claws on the Libyan pie and more over the "African" pie so they could divide it up for their own greedy little desires. These are wicked people that are behind all of this. None of it is for the benefit of the "regular" people, heck they are always the victims of these Satans. Those they used (the opposition in Libya) have a great surprise coming to them when they receive nothing from the deal. The devil promises the world but gives you N-O-T-H-I-N-G and it is good for them. It is written that whoever takes him (Gog and Magog;Ash-Shaitan) for a friend, he will lead him (them) astray and conduct him (them) to the chastisement of burning. They have too many examples in recent history about the US. and the major Occidental powers and their dealings with others to feign gullibility in knowing the ultimate outcome of the deal. Now, the innocent Libyans are suffering under the crushing weight of foreign aggression, just like the Afghans, Iraqis, Haitians, the Salvadorans, the Mexicans, the Liberians, the people of the Central African Republic, the Laotians, the Cambodians, the Vietnamese, etc. All who fail to heed the examples and still make deals with Gog and Magog get exactly what they deserve and I have only sympathy and empathy for the innocent people who are always caught in the middle of such matters.
     
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    We know, that's actually one of the few quotes thrown around here that there IS confirmation of! The problem with Clark is that there's a few things wrong with that statement. The big one is that, barring nuclear carpet-bombing, even a first-year cadet knows the US can't take out and pacify ONE country in seven years, and all you have to do is look at Afghanistan to see that. I suppose that would lead us up to why we would even WANT to take out Somalia and the Sudan. Or the fact that if Clarke was telling the truth, that we're waaaaaay behind schedule. Or even how we would control all these countries when we can't even control Chicago. The conclusion is this: Either Clark is lying, or the Pentagon is lying - or they're all morons. And neither answer is mutually exclusive to the other.

    As far as Iraq, Occam's Razor suggests that the simplest answer is the best: W hated Saddam for what he did to his father, and used the WMD line as a pretext to take him out.
     
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    Here you go, Mario:
    http://www.etherzone.com/body.html

    I "Binged" it:
    http://www.bing.com/search?q=Clinto...QBLH&pq=clinton+body+count!&sc=5-19&sp=-1&sk=

    People in American and worldwide just do not like thinking that those whom they like, defend or are their "countrymen and women" are evil. Well, it is time for people to stop being children or child-like in their thinking and face up to the murderous nature of most of those in power who govern their daily lives. This is a world of evil and those who rule it make it the way that it is, E-V-I-L!

    By the way, Killary is a fitting name for her.
     
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    heh heh you are funny, USA wouldn't do what Clark said, but that is exactly what they are doing. Let me guess you were asleep what they did to Libya and you are still asleep with what they are doing to Syria, oh and you missed how they totally destroyed Iraq and drone bombing Somalia. Gee dude when are ya gunna wake up that what Clark said is in your face ?

    Far out man another one telling us that our eyes and ears are lying to us. WTF is wrong with you JIDF clowns, your bull(*)(*)(*)(*) isn't working!
     

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