USA´s best friend Pakistan : kills women for singing

I am not justifying it nor are millions of Pakistanis who claim them to be wrong and are fighting for their removal. If the US is so concerned about it, why does the US not say to the Pakistani government to remove your blasphemy laws or we will stop aid. Many Pakistanis will welcome such a move. However, the truth is the US is ok with all such laws as long as the government allows them free access to murder as many innocents through drones and other means. At the end of the day, both the Pakistan and US government are playing their citizens and are not really interested in what the people want.

 

You are aware that the US armed and dunded the Taliban when they were a bunch of rag tag criminals and allow them to take control over Afghanistan just so that they would have puppets who would do as they were told in the fight against Soviets right? I am quite sure that happened before 9/11.

 

If you want to believe a biased and inaccurate sequence of events, then yes. If you want actual truth, then no.

What does 9/11 have to do with the Taliban's creation?

 

Sounds like someone making excuses to me. Soft words to describe draconian laws, and raspy vitriol to describe the US.

The US gives Pakistan money to keep their nukes contained. We have no control over their laws.

 

They existed much before that.

Yet enough control to send drones which majority of the population is against. You really expect anyone except partisan hacks to believe that?

 

IF you don't mind me asking, how old are you?

 

Yes I do mind because I resent the implication that any one who does not agree with your views has to be a stupid kid. I have actually lived in Pakistan (and in fact am planning to start a few awareness and educational campaigns there hopefully in the next few months) as well as in Europe and visited quite a few countries across the world so I do happen to know about their culture and their politics then you who has never stepped outside US soil. the world is not as black and white as you would like to believe. Its a cruel world out there but none more so than the US government. Is it a surprise the rest of the world hates the US? No. but its not because they hate your freedoms but because they hate you for making their lives a lot worse than it would have been without your "help". They have a lot more reason to hate those terrorists than you ever did. A lot of the problems there stem not from religion but because of the lack of education and lack of knowledge of religion. be it blasphemy, apostasy or anything else, Islam does not condone force of any sort. If anyone do, they are not following God but forcing their own version of Islam that is totally against everything that Islam teaches. There are instances in the lives of Mohammad where he was insulted, thrown rocks at and a lot worse yet he did not fight back or ask any of his followers to take revenge. If any Muslim thinks he is greater than Mohammad (which he is implying by enforcing such laws) than he is not a true Muslim. So your attacks on Islam are irrelevant because Islam teaches the same things that you are pointing out to be wrong it their society.

 

because Taliban is a CIA´s product

 

Bullsh*t! All these muslim countries are UN members in good standing, they all have their governments, their rulers, their theocracies and the US does business with these legitimate governments based on international norms and bilateral agreements. If they don't like how their governments conduct business with the US they should blame their governments, not the US and get themselves different governments. The US owes nothing to them.

 

with out usa´s support many of those regime can not survive even one day - Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, etc

 

Really? With trillions of petrodollars the regimes can't survive? How do you think Libya survived and dozens of other Middle Eastern and African regimes? LOL get real.

Regardless, even if you were right, the US is doing legitimate business with universally recognized governments of those countries, it's not breaking international laws or norms. How is it wrong, what seems to be the problem and what do you suggest, that the US does not do any business whatsoever with foreign governments, is the US supposed to clear every foreign transaction with every terrorist gang in that country?

 

They are US puppets.

 

the Pakistani regime is a US puppet? LOL

It's good you backed off the nonsense you spewed earlier in this thread, that the US was overthrowing democracies....except of course you've replaced it with another nonsense.

 

Who is keeping one safe from whom???
Has Pakistan invaded or threatened to invade the United States?
Umm--- we are in their country bombing their people - they are not in our country bombing our civilians.

 

The Pakistani government is letting the US send a drone every 4 days in its own country. What does that tell you?

The Afghanis had a gang of people crash a couple of planes in US and look what happened to their country.

So please tell me what else the Pakistani government has to do before it can be called a US puppet.

 

Have you ever heard of 9/11 and a tiny fact that Osama was hiding in Pakistan? What do you suggest should the US do with Pakistani based anti-american terrorists if the Pakistani government refuses to deal with them and vice versa provides them support and shelter. What would Muhammad do?

 

It tells me that the American and Pakistani government have common interest and conduct military operations together. Again you've failed to let us know how you'd deal with Pakistan based anti-american terrorists. Your response about democratic governments overthrown by the US was sheer nonsense. Any brighter ideas?

 

lmao. Just before you were saying the Pakistani government is aiding the Taliban, now I point out that they are allowing drone attacks to kill their own civilians, you claim the Pakistani government is so committed in the fight against terrorists that they don't care how many of their civilians die as long as it kills a single terrorist. How many time do you have to be made to look stupid before you admit that you are lying every time you post here?

 

I was merely responding to your claim that Pakistan was letting the US send drones to bomb terrorists. You lose either way, if/when Pakistan allows this to take place - it's a joint military operation within the norms of international law. Overall Pakistan is a hotbed of terrorism and does not do sh*t to combat terror gangs operating from its territory.

In either case it takes total cretin to declare that the Pakistani government is America's puppet...Or any other muslim government for that matter.

 

lol. How much sillier can you get.

Doesn't do (*)(*)(*)(*) to combat terror / Is not a Us puppet amounts to allowing drone attacks on Pakistani soil against what every citizen of Pakistan wants because it only serves to kill innocent.

 

Your claim - US is overthrowing democracies - zero evidence, examples or substance
your next claim - every government is America's puppets - zero evidence, examples or substance.

Grow up son and don't play with adults for now, you are embarrassing yourself.

 

Please tell me one country in the world which willingly allows another country to send drones into its own country killing innocent civilians. And please also tell me what the US did when they themselves were attacked through a plane crash by a group of people from Afghanistan. now tell me what does that tell you.

 

When I asked you what you would do about anti-american terrorists hiding in Pakistan under the protection of the Pakistani government you started spewing total nonsense about overthrowing democracies and puppetry. Wanna try again, what would you do? Here is my original post:

PS your comparison of American drones targeting terrorists and 9/11 is noted. It speaks volumes about your mental state, total absence of common sense and the heavy damage of your moral compass.

 

You answer my question first and then I'll answer mine.

A group of people from Afghanistan crashed a couple of planes on US soil. what did the US do? Destroy the whole nation.

Now the US is sending drones every 4 days in Pakistan (with the consent and often without of the Pakistan government), an action if any other nation had committed on US soil, they would have been razed to the ground. So what does it tell you:
- a) The Pakistanis are really committed to fighting terrorism or
- b) The Pakistani government is US puppet.
Let's just use some common sense here. I don;t see any other possible explanation. Do you?

 

Afghanistan was provided with ample opportunities to give up the perpetrators of 9/11. They refused and have no one else to blame. Sponsoring, giving shelter and protecting terror is an act of terrorism in its own right. Afghanistan had been destroyed to begin with, it was run by the Taliban, the most brutal and fundamentalist form of Islam. And 95% of death is muslims murdering muslims.

Pakistan is of course not a puppet, it's clearly between the rock and the hard place but the fact remains that it's a hotbed of terror and does not do sh*t to deal with it.


Now what would you do regarding terrorists in Pakistan who attack US troops, plot terror attacks against American targets and enjoy the protection of the Pakistani government. I've already heard the bs about overthrown democracies and puppets, now do you have a real answer? I am all ears.