USA should prepare for the hypothesis of a civil war in western Europe

Aye - he died before he could be hanged.

 

Although I think the basic prediction of European civil war is correct, I still think we are several decades off from that. There is a lot of ruin in a nation (or nations) so we still have along way to go.

 

I don't remember Paris without sodiers. Not just Paris, France.
At all the train stations spring to mind.

 

Dream on, weirdo! I wish I could get the stuff Americans consume!

 

Enoch was right.
Inflammatory but correct. What he said would occur, ocurred.

 

'Rivers of blood', hey? The bugger was a racist nutter, man!

 

Europe should have a civil war while Europeans can still win it.

 

Nothing is more precious than human life. Germany will kick arse, if you let them. So will the UK. Neither one messes around when backed into a corner. Get your compatriots behind you and quit cowtowing to those killing innocent people, whether Christian, Muslim, or whatever.

I'm sure the USA will be there if and when needed.

 

It's pretty rare now to find a Christian other than someone who just nominally claims to be Christian because family was or grandparents were now in France I heard. I have heard that the churches are very poorly attended.

I wouldn't think that Christianity would be much of a factor at all in France now.

 

The USA should get out of Europe and not be involved at all. Twice was enough, actually way too much.

 

I only said that because we are still there and couldn't get out fast enough. I bet it would take 25 years to get out completely.

 

Plus, I would not want us to sit by and watch.

 

Leave the aerospace ground equipment and fly all aircraft home. Just sail the Navy home.

Leave all but the best equipment and ship all ground personnel home with packs, rifles and sidearms by sea, or by shuttling cargo aircraft staying on the ground just long enough to load.

Leave as if going to war, with the same fervor, fury, and hurry.

Destroy all computer equipment and all things classified which are left for the landfills.

It wouldn't take long to get out.

 

Yes christianity is globally dead in France. I know two christian of my age, and if both are true french, only one is what we could translate in english as "french by roots", or a gaul. They have even to get priests from africa. I attented to a few burials, they were animated by priests of Benin or Congo.

Protestant church is more successfull, and I have one friend who was raised in the catholic church who go now to protestant church.

Today, the most practiced religion is clearly islam, even if christian are more numerous.

 

I have traveled alot to France, in most parts, even spent a summer vacation in Paris when I was younger. Beautiful and weird country.

Even though I am not Catholic, I have attended one time a Sunday church and it was half empty but not entirely empty.

Last time I was in France, like 5 years ago, Paris was heavily packed with soldiers, immigration was visibly higher, and muslims would prey on the streets.

I noticed some degradation of society and economy in time. Im pretty sure french citizens noticed that too, but still are decades ahead in terms of living standards, prosperity and happiness with all your problems, than other places I visited and know. For that reason, I highly doubt civil war will come anytime soon.

 

I live in Western Europe and I think you're very wrong. Your vision of realty is skewed by your rightwing beliefs. There will be no civil war in Western or Eastern Europe. It is no different than in the 60s in the US, when there were riots in certain neighborhoods in big cities, when the Civil Rights movement and Vietnam protests caused a lot of unrest. You're being reactionary and alarmist. Take a step back.

 

This is absolute nonsense. I've spent a lot of time in Paris over the years, from 1977 to 2014, and it is no different than it ever was!! I have also spent time more recently in the south of France (2 months most recently) and again, peaceful and normal. You people must wear some kind of goggles that pervert reality.

 

Did you do lots of car-sharing with Muslims there? If so you must have learned a lot!!

 

So pointing out that global jihad is on the doorstep of western European countries is 'reactionary and alarmist' is it? Riiight! We'll give that some thought.

 

You twisted my words or misunderstood me. I said its one of the best places to live(great climate!), ofc its peaceful, just my impression that the recent trend is bad.

 

I must have misunderstood. All countries around the globe have problems. My experience of Western Europe today is that it is generally peaceful and safe. I travel all the time as an independent female traveler. I've never been bothered. It does matter if you avoid bad neighborhoods or careless behavior: but that is the case anywhere. There are problems in Western Europe today that are similar to the 60s in America, and are similar to problems of other countries throughout time.

The most dangerous thing that can happen to a country is to elect a crazy wanna be dictator whose behavior devides the people of the country and puts the country in danger of antagoniizing the rest ofthe world and its own allies. This is not the case in Europe.

 

I'm of the belief that sometimes a dictator is needed in order to realign declined social mores, and the excesses of a depraved moral code of a population which has been infantilised, and are therefore dangerous because of their extreme liberalism.

 

'Global jihad' is not on the doorstep of Western Europe: that's an ignorant assertion. Ignorant in the extreme. There has been a very large amount of immigrants accepted into Europe in a short period of time.Whenever that is done anywhere, unless the cultures are almost exactly the same, there are problems and unrest. The US had problems with large numbers of immigrants in the early part of the 20th century. There was unrest, xenophobia, and bigotry toward them. Those immigrants were mostly Western European. Unrest when there are large numbers of immigrants in a short period of time is typical. Eventually things will calm down.

It is not the aim of Muslim immigrants to overtake the rest of the world. It's just idiot to think that. It's like believing that because 7th Day Adventists still believe Christians should actively convert everyone to Christianity and that anyone who isn't a Christian will burn in hell is what most Christians believe.

A miniscule percent of the worldwide population of Muslims are terrorists or believe in terrorism. The very vast majority of Muslims believe their religion has been hijacked by these crazy, sick people.

You need to educate yourself and to get a broader understanding of the world.

 

Well I know better than try to rationalise with a closed mind, so I guess we're done here. Think I'll go and educate myself!!

 

Good idea. Educate yourself.