USA to defend Europe!!!

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by Ronstar, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. william walker

    william walker New Member

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    If you are making an argument about taxation. I understand what you are saying, I think taxation is illegal and immoral. However the UK for over a century had the total war chest, which is when the government saves up normal taxes for war and in a time of war people loan the government money expecting some interest on there investment which is gain through trade. WW1 did away with it though and the government from then on committed to the statist total war of Germany.

    Sure taking money from one voluntary part of the economy through force and military a military will harm economic growth. However it is better than been invaded and your cultural and way of life being destroyed by the invaders. Scientists and engineers have a choice government money and massive budgets or not.
     
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    I can confirm this is false.

    Source: I know several Ukranians and live near a Ukranian immigrant commune.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Nothing to do with tax. This is simply the negative consequence of the high military burden that Britain has suffered from
    Talking about invasions is also an obvious nonsense.
     
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    william walker New Member

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    The British Isles has been invaded by 7 different foreign powers.
     
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    If you think there is a serious threat of invasion then I have nothing more to say to you. Waste of time!
     
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    ??? seven? Who?
     
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    william walker New Member

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    Romans, Saxons, Vikings, Normans, France, Spanish, Germans. You could also argue the Dutch.
     
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    william walker New Member

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    We already have been attacked by the Irish state in Ulster and Islamic people. We are under seriou threat of attack. Then we should also be able to defend our nations waters and air space.

    What would you rather the UK defence was, or should we not have anything?
     
  9. Strasser

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    In addition to centuries of pirates, some also from Ireland in the years after the Romans left, and even still today piracy is a problem in many parts of the world.
     
  10. martin76

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    Well, ok Romans, Saxons, Normans (Vikings and normand are the same), French, Spaniards and Dutchmen... German attacked British Island in F and SWW but I think they didn´t land in Britain... and I wouldn´t name "Invasion" the French and Spanish landing... they made incursions, raids, but not invasion..the real invasion never happened...French in Boulogne, Spaniards in Vlaanderen... waited,waited, waited...
     
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    They may have been waiting around until Britain finally enlightened itself and did away with the tax burden of unproductive defense spending.
     
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    Great Britain is an island, for their defense just needs a good Navy and excellent Air Force.. the Army is not vital for British defence...If the Wehrmacht had landed in 1940, if the Grande Armée had made ​​it in 1804, if the Tercios had set foot in Kent in 1588 ... the British Army had been defeat, but for one reason or another, none could land their invasion force.
     
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    It isn't Great Britain the island, it is the British Isles. There have been many foreign backed rebellions on Ireland and Scotland, which I could as invasions. Like the 1798 rebellion or the 1916 easter raising. So Britain does need a good army to combat these threats. This is something people never take into account when thinking about defending a country like Britain. You need an army to keep the population on side. So in reality Britain needs an excellent navy, air force and army.
     
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    With what I said above in mind. The UK defence strategy must take into account Ireland, from a nutural, friend or enemy state point of view depending on the political situation at the time. The UK and Ireland have nearly went to war a number of times, only cool heads in Britain and limited US interference stopped it from happening. So the UK needs the capability to defend Ireland used naval and air power. While have the capability to take Ireland over using land or amphibious forces if needs be. Of course the main issue for the UK is stopping weapons supplied by the Irish state or Irish nationalists from getting into Ulster to be used again police and other government targets.
     
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    Yes, a deliberate attempt at misrepresenting risk as your argument wasn't much cop
     
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    Sorry. I don't know what you are trying to say here.
     
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    It wasn't a difficult sentence. Anyways, you're clearer off on one. Bye
     

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