"Virginia Democrats won an election. Gun owners are talking civil war"

which is correct.

nope. An M16 fire control group and sear will not fit on an AR15 without illegally modifying it.

 

I do not disagree. But the courts have already settled this. The Supreme Court has ruled that an entire class of arms can not be banned, if they are in common use. “Assault weapons” as defined by the VA bill would encompass a wide variety of commonly used and wildly popular rifles and handguns. The constitution precludes them from doing so.

 

This doesn’t have to be this difficult. The whole point of the AR was to introduce a new weapon to the military.

 

You are correct with the modification for an ar lower receiver. I stand corrected

 

The AR is a development of the M16 for civilian use.

 

In that case it's high time the 2nd amendment advocates high tail it off to the SCOTUS and have them declare the law as unconstitutional and get the issue resolved. To me at least, that's the way to handle it.

 

Anyone who talks about buying a semi auto rifle and converting it to full auto is 99.9% of the time talking out their ass. It is not a common occurrence, as you can ask them how they do it, and usually they go "I just filed down the hammer on my AR", which does not make it full auto.

Buying and selling a sear kit is legal, as is the BCG, but it still has to go through the ATF. Having a non-registered sear kit, or any type of full auto for any normal citizen without a stamp, is likely going to lead to jail time unless its pre-ban. Pre-ban lowers are $20K or more. A machinist can do the conversion on a banned lower, but risk the ATF coming down hard and very much not happy. Its not worth it.

 

VA hasn’t passed the assault weapons ban yet. Though other states have.

 

What else is there other than individuals?

 

Classes of people or groups is where I was going with that. They can’t ban say members of political parties, certain political action groups or even racist organizations from owning firearms. Only individuals and only via due process (conviction of a crime, adjudicated as mentally deficient etc)

 

VA would do good for itself to turn all its counties into cities distribute state funds per capita population and give them self government free from the state, leaving them all to manage their own funds going forward, set all the state taxes to 0 and have the government meet twice a year to collect the federal funds distributing them per capita and to hold federal elections.

Set the amending of the state constitution to needing enough counties (cities) to= 50% of counties and over 50% of the population.

Wonder how long it would take for them to realise they need the anti gun liberal counties (cities) money and beg them to amend the constitution to reinstate the state government.

 

Actually you can ban hate groups from owning guns, if someone has a swastika tattooed openly on their body, or a nazi flag on their house, they can be deemed part of a hate group or terrorist org and be barred from firearms. That is if a state actually has the balls to enact such a law.

 

Haha. Nobody can live without thieving psychopaths.

 

Who would those be?

 

nope. As that is a violation of the 1st, 5th and 14th amendments.

States are precluded from enacting such a law.

 

Due process is not needed when someone presents incriminating evidence in the open.

Would you support your neighbors right to keep or own a firearm if they put an ISIS flag up in their yard?

Once someone makes such an act allegiance to a hate or terrorist organisation it is on the to prove to the government they are not a threat and should get their right back not the other way around.

 

yes it is.

I support everyone’s right to due process.

The constitution says otherwise.

 

This is what the US says about Treason and I think people who are openly in those groups meet the constitutional definition

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

Are the Nazi's Confederate's and Terrorist orgs not Enemies and is showing support and allegiance not adhering?

According to the constitution they would need to deny in open court their allegiance, and breaking such would be the felony of perjury.

Basically The constitution 100% allows removal of constitutional rights based upon affiliation to certain groups.

 

For the most I agree. But it depends on who is choosing what a hate group is. Many on the Left view the entire Republican Party as a hate group. They think a Maga Hat is a sign of hate, and ANTIFA members wearing masks burning cars, a sign of peace. So if those sorts of crazies are in control they’ll deem anyone they disagree with a hate group instead of obvious ones. It’s where the slippery slope begins. If only level heads were always in charge.

 

You are fully aware of the fact this is not true.

 

You are fully aware of he fact your statement is false.

 

Unfortunately for you what you think has no relevance to constitutional law.

 

Those who call themselves the state. They psychopaths who wish to run the lives of their fellow man.

 

How would a rural county run without state funds?

 

People would do their work and produce what they produce and consume it. It's called economics.