I have always regarded rapists, serial-killers, and paedophiles as being cursed. I doubt any of them actually want to commit such crimes and I think of myself as being fortunate that I have no such urges. I ask myself, “What would I do if I were sexually aroused by children or if killing someone would seem like an exciting event?” Even rape. I cannot imagine being sexually aroused by forcing myself or beating a woman. But then there is the question: Is there such a thing as a virtuous paedophile? Why not? On occasion, I see a lovely woman (just my type too) but I never act on any impulse to “get close” because my loyalty is to my wife. The same with finding a lost wallet, mobile telephone, or briefcase - all of which I have found and personally returned to the rightful owners. I could never keep what isn't mine despite the seductive thought of it. So why not a paedophile-oriented man keeping his hands to himself?
Paedophiles cannot be rehabilitated and, as such, are always a danger to children. Just because they may not have yet acted out their urges does not mean that they will always be able to contain them. Virtuous, by definition, means to have high moral standards and even thinking about sexually abusing/interfering with a child is definitely NOT virtuous. Those who have acted out already should all be castrated and have their fingers amputated as well. It's a disease that cannot be cured. Don't try to glorify it.
I understand that and I agree. It is covered in the video, but .... that can be said for anyone. We've all had thoughts of robbing a bank or by other means attaining a very large sum of money by illegal means. We see police films of how criminals get caught and we say to ourselves, "What an idiot! He might have got away with it if he'd xxxxx!" Does that mean we are all a danger to society just because we commit the perfect crime in our imagination? Well, I've been around the block a few times and I have met a lot of people. Many men have a fantasy about "sleeping" with several women at once and many women have the same fantasy about men. So by your definition (particularly on "thinking") there may be no virtuous people on earth. I often say that myself. You think I am trying to "glorify" paedophilia? Did you watch the video? One cannot dictate one's own feelings. Why do some men get crazy over red-headed women or why do most women prefer tall men? Did they make a New Year's Resolution and intentionally decide they'd reserve their excitement for specific traits in friends, partners, spouses, and sexual acquaintances? No. So isn't it better for those who have socially deviant emotions seek help and support so that they may never act out their impulses?
I must admit I was not inclined to watch the video, and didn't, but you cannot equate sexually abusing a child with fantasising about robbing a bank or getting away with committing a perfect crime. Sex between consenting adults is worlds apart from sexually abusing a child. Strongest emphasis on the words "consenting" and "adults" whether it be multiple partners, man on man, woman on woman or whatever kinky stuff you so desire. Short, tall, red hair, black hair, blue hair, no hair. It's consensual and between adults and so long as all parties agree, so what? All of which would be considered normal adult fantasies. Indulge in your adult sexual fantasies ... but leave the children alone! A 5 year old has absolutely no sexual maturity and is not able to consent. Period! They are innocent and vulnerable and people who have sexual fantasies about children should never be allowed in the vicinity of a child. Children should be able to trust adults and not be preyed upon by them There is no comparison to any of the scenarios you laid out and child sexual abuse.
Difficult topic. Personally, I think sexual intercourse is okay as long as none of the participants are forced or feel uncomfortable, regardless of sex, race or age.
You should watch it. There are some things we need to know, particularly about those with paedophile tendencies but who restrain themselves. You can actually ..... if you realize that humans (those with a conscience) can refuse the urge to enter "the dark side". The method is the same whether it be robbery or paedophilia and that is the central theme of this thread. No one disagrees with that. Again, no one disagrees with that. So is the bank teller and the car-jack victim. Not really true, and that is what the video is about. You really should watch it. There are thousands of things that all of us should be able to trust. Like the government, for example. Alas .... "The scenarios I have laid out"? Everyone needs to consider the consequences of the things they might do especially those things that cause suffering of others in one way or another. What "I have laid out" is putting an end to taboo subjects so that we can work to end or curtail the problem. That cannot be a bad thing no matter how one slices it. Here is the crux of it: In the video, it states that phycologists are bound by law to report any patient who "might" be dangerous to society and that includes people with paedophile "thoughts". This is very bad because those with such thoughts will be marked for life without having committed any crime at all, so ..... they steer clear of phycologists, thus get no treatment until they commit the crime and end up in prison. Too late, says I. I suggest you watch the video. Prevention is the keyword: Preventing it from happening (the best scenario) or preventing it from happening again, that's the choice.
Definitely. That is why the law is as it is. Society fails by lack of understanding & education. Punishment is only after the fact and then it's too late. The crime has already been committed and a victim has already been violated.
Compare with Sharia Law: There is no pedophilia or age restriction for marriage. Muslims are allowed to marry when both partners are physically and mentally fit for marriage. The husband must be able to feed a family, and the wife must be able to give birth and raise children.
That's a difficult post to respond to and I'm not sure if you are speaking with tongue-in-cheek. Arranged child-brides certainly are not "physically and mentally fit for marriage" and that pretty much ends the debate about paedophilia. But then homosexually is forbidden in Islam, punishable by death, isn't it(?), and yet sexually exploiting young boys is (for some reason) considered neither paedophilia, a homosexual act, nor immoral. It makes no sense to me.
I didn't watch the video and don't care to. However, there is an interesting note on this topic: At least one company now manufactures sex robot children. The argument is that pedophiles can redirect their desires to virtual sex and robotics. I have no idea if that's a good idea or not. But it certainly gets your attention. And one can easily imagine that sex robotics will get as dark as internet porn. It will move beyond even sex with children to fantasies of torture and everything else you see online. So any morality or personal objections aside, would this prevent actual torture and abuse, or enhance the desire for those who might do the real thing? Dunno. And scary freaky to think about.
I should have said "reduce" actual torture and abuse, not "prevent". Obviously nothing can be expected to be 100% effective.
they would be upstanding in mexico city where the age of consent is 12, or italy for ephebophiles where the age of consent is 14
