Vladimir Putin on Muslims!

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    Vladimir Putin on Muslims!

    Here is the guy I admire because he does what is necessary for his country while Mr. Obama still is indecisive... When a leader takes the Bull by the Horns and confront its power then manages to put that bull on his knees... this is laudatory and the world at large should emulate his tenuous tendencies.HB

    First Australia, now Russia...........wake up America

    No wonder he was selected by Forbes as the most powerful person in the world.

    This is one time our elected leaders should pay attention to the advice of Vladimir Putin.

    I would suggest that not only our leaders but every citizen of USA should pay attention to this advice. How scary is that?

    It is a sad day when a Communist Leader makes more sense than

    our LEADERS here in the U.S.A. but here it is!




    Vladimir Putin's speech - SHORTEST SPEECH EVER.


    On August 04, 2013, Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, addressed the Duma, (Russian Parliament), and gave a speech about the tensions with minorities in Russia:

    "In Russia, live like Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, it should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslim's then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law.

    "Russia does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to change our laws to fit their desires, no matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'. We will not tolerate disrespect of our Russian culture. We better learn from the suicides of America, England, Holland and France, if we are to survive as a nation. The Muslims are taking over those countries and they will not take over Russia. The Russian customs and traditions are not compatible with the lack of culture or the primitive ways of Sharia Law and Muslims.

    "When this honorable legislative body thinks of creating new laws, it should have in mind the Russian national interest first, observing that the Muslims Minorities Are Not Russians."

    The politicians in the Duma gave Putin a five minute standing ovation.

    If you keep this to yourself, you are part of the problem!
     
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    About this Putin is right [note that he doesn't mention Italy ...] and actually Italian attitude is not that different. May be Catholic traditionalism or our historical social mistrust towards immigrants [despite Italians have been immigrants for decades and decades] ... the result is that usually Muslim migrants here tend to move to other EU countries.

    The main problem is the process of integration following "multicultural" models [the notorious American "melting pot"]. They are not socially functional. Diversity is richness until it doesn't generate a mix without identity in which new strong identities [Muslim communities] can take over the entire society becoming a kind of social leading force.
     
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    I also enjoyed his speech to the leaders of the G8 last year. No wonder they didn't want him to remain a member. Too much truth for them to handle.
    " “You have spread anarchy in Libya after Mu‘ammar al-Qadhdhafi. Nobody can put together an authority capable of working to rebuild the state there. Yemen after the departure of ‘Ali ‘Abdallah Salih lacks stability in government and there is no peace in the streets. Military and security unrest continues to prevail in all the regions of the country. As to the Persian Gulf, the whole area from Bahrain to the rest of the states there is sitting atop a volcano,” Putin said.

    The diplomatic source reported the Russian President as saying: “You want Russia to abandon Asad and his regime and go along with an Opposition whose leaders don’t know anything except issuing fatwas declaring people heretics, and whose members – who come from a bunch of different countries and have multiple orientations – don’t know anything except how to slaughter people and eat human flesh. You use double standards and approach the crisis in Syria using summer and winter styles under one roof. You lie to your own peoples so as to further your interests. This is none of our business. But it is impermissible for you to lie to us and to the countries and peoples of the world, because the international stage is no longer yours alone. Your ability to monopolize it the way you did two decades ago is now gone for good.”

    Putin continued: “In Syria all of you are standing on the side of the forces that for the last 10 years you have claimed to be fighting against under the rubric of ‘fighting terror.’ Now today you are with them, helping them to take power across the region. You declare that you’re going to arm them and work to facilitate sending their fighters to Syria to bring it down, weaken it, and break it up.” Putin asked, “In God’s name what kind of democracy are you talking about? You want a democratic regime in Syria to take the place of the Asad regime, but are Turkey and the countries you’re allied with in the region blessed with democracy?”

    Putin addressed US President Obama specifically, saying: “Your country sent its army to Afghanistan in the year 2001 on the excuse that you are fighting the Taliban and the al-Qa‘idah Organization and other fundamentalist terrorists whom your government accused of carrying out the 11 September attacks on New York and Washington. And here you are today making an alliance with them in Syria. And you and your allies are declaring your desire to send them weapons. And here you have Qatar in which you [the US] have your biggest base in the region and in the territory of that country the Taliban are opening a representative office.”

    Putin turned to the President of France [François Hollande] to ask, “How can you send your army to Mali to fight fundamentalist terrorists on the one hand, while on the other you are making an alliance with them and supporting them in Syria, and you want to send them heavy weapons to fight the regime there?”

    British Prime Minister David Cameron came in for some of Putin’s sharpest remarks, when the Russian President told him: “You are loudly demanding that the terrorists in Syria be armed and yet these are the same people two of whom slaughtered a British soldier on a street in London in broad daylight in front of passers by, not caring about your state or your authority. And they have also committed a similar crime against a French soldier in the streets of Paris.”
     
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    There's nothing wrong with Putin stating that when in Russia abide by Russian law and culture, however the rest is grandstanding.. No one could have changed or stopped the Arab Spring and no one in authority is going to put another American stooge in power in Libya, Egypt or Syria. That's just a cheap shot.
     
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    The American melting pot does not melt well any more. We have a multitude of demographic problems and different kind of odd hate groups. However, it seems Israel is melting America into an appendage of the Jewish State. Our politicians and particularly presidential hopefuls are afraid to criticize Israel. America cannot melt the Jewish lobby at all...
     
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    This was a wish of G. W. Bush. However, he used tortures and created Guantanamo prison. The whole Iraq war was based on faulty premises.
     
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    "... It is a sad day when a Communist Leader makes more sense than

    our LEADERS here in the U.S.A. but here it is!"


    Mr. Putin is not a Communist. He is of the Christian Orthodox, and present day Russia is a Christian, conservative, pro-capitalist nation. It ain't your daddy's old USSR.

    Putin is trying to reclaim the hippie and Muslim-influenced western Ukraine for the Russian people.

    Brainwashed American conservatives are rooting for the wrong side.

    Viva Putin!
     
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    Let me repeat myself since you seem to have misunderstood my post.
    "I also enjoyed his speech to the leaders of the G8 last year."
    - - - Updated - - -

    :clapping:
     
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    Also about the influence of Jewish lobbies in Italy the situation is well different. Here there are some Jewish communities which are the oldest of the planet [the one in Rome existed since before the construction of the last Temple and they made lobby activity on the Roman Senate to send money to Jerusalem to construct it ...], but they have always been little and so their political weight in our country is irrelevant.
     
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    That our good friend Vladimir Vladimirovic is not Communist is absolutely true, he considers Russian surviving Communists political opponents ...
    He is a center-right moderate leader with a good conservative attitude [and a certain sympathy for persons who enjoy life ... like Berlusconi!].
     
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    Vladimir Putin: a weapon of massive truth. He must be stopped before he drops more truth bombs!!
     
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    That is why they kicked him out of the G8. Here is what he told them last June.
    "Putin went on: “You have spread anarchy in Libya after Mu‘ammar al-Qadhdhafi. Nobody can put together an authority capable of working to rebuild the state there. Yemen after the departure of ‘Ali ‘Abdallah Salih lacks stability in government and there is no peace in the streets. Military and security unrest continues to prevail in all the regions of the country. As to the Persian Gulf, the whole area from Bahrain to the rest of the states there is sitting atop a volcano,” Putin said.

    The diplomatic source reported the Russian President as saying: “You want Russia to abandon Asad and his regime and go along with an Opposition whose leaders don’t know anything except issuing fatwas declaring people heretics, and whose members – who come from a bunch of different countries and have multiple orientations – don’t know anything except how to slaughter people and eat human flesh. You use double standards and approach the crisis in Syria using summer and winter styles under one roof. You lie to your own peoples so as to further your interests. This is none of our business. But it is impermissible for you to lie to us and to the countries and peoples of the world, because the international stage is no longer yours alone. Your ability to monopolize it the way you did two decades ago is now gone for good.”

    Putin continued: “In Syria all of you are standing on the side of the forces that for the last 10 years you have claimed to be fighting against under the rubric of ‘fighting terror.’ Now today you are with them, helping them to take power across the region. You declare that you’re going to arm them and work to facilitate sending their fighters to Syria to bring it down, weaken it, and break it up.” Putin asked, “In God’s name what kind of democracy are you talking about? You want a democratic regime in Syria to take the place of the Asad regime, but are Turkey and the countries you’re allied with in the region blessed with democracy?”

    Putin addressed US President Obama specifically, saying: “Your country sent its army to Afghanistan in the year 2001 on the excuse that you are fighting the Taliban and the al-Qa‘idah Organization and other fundamentalist terrorists whom your government accused of carrying out the 11 September attacks on New York and Washington. And here you are today making an alliance with them in Syria. And you and your allies are declaring your desire to send them weapons. And here you have Qatar in which you [the US] have your biggest base in the region and in the territory of that country the Taliban are opening a representative office.”

    Putin turned to the President of France [François Hollande] to ask, “How can you send your army to Mali to fight fundamentalist terrorists on the one hand, while on the other you are making an alliance with them and supporting them in Syria, and you want to send them heavy weapons to fight the regime there?”

    British Prime Minister David Cameron came in for some of Putin’s sharpest remarks, when the Russian President told him: “You are loudly demanding that the terrorists in Syria be armed and yet these are the same people two of whom slaughtered a British soldier on a street in London in broad daylight in front of passers by, not caring about your state or your authority. And they have also committed a similar crime against a French soldier in the streets of Paris.”

    Seems all has come true over the last year
     
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    Putin's being right on minorities doesn't make him right on Ukraine or Georgia or Chechnya or his suppression of freedom of speech or freedom of press or his persecution of political opponents etc... The broken clock proverb leaps to mind right away.
     
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    Vladimir Putin is not a center-right moderate by any stretch of the imagination. The most accurate designation for him would be "Statist".
     
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    Sorry to say that Muslims do not integrate in the host countries but rather form a negative nucleus, to take advantage of welfare, free food and free medical and education... and what do they give in return? Well all of you must have seen clips of stone throwing youngsters, burning cars and properties in addition to general rebellion.
     
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    Ukraine is the one who keeps making journalists disappear and Washington is the ones who keep getting caught sspying on every person on the planet and using journalists family info to extort them into writing what they want them too.
     
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    American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, MI (Original edit)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vnJBW49afzg
     
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    And guess what, even if you were telling the truth and not Kremlin lies, even then it's none of Putin's f&ing business, Ukraine is not part of Russia and whatever is going on there is no excuse for Russia's unprovoked aggression and dirty undeclared war it wages against Ukrainian people.
     
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    Yup, Putin learned in the expense of the West.:)
     
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    Everything Vladimir Putin says is totally logical and worthy of the highest respect, something I have always given him regardless of how much he is being demonized by those who have only their self serving interests at heart. You did make one mistake though, Vladimir Putin is not a communist, because that political system died with the Soviet Union. Russia's laws, humanity and reasoning are now based on Christianity, and with the hope that this time it will be adhered to more fully by the Russian people.

    Every cruelty that came from the hearts of that former atheist system is dead and gone and people have to stop thinking of Russia in those terms. It is now being led by a different spirit, and by a very worthy leader. By the same token, I could also say that the spirit which led the U.S. at one time is also dead, so that every evil that existed in the former Soviet system has now moved here. The U.S. has now become the new Soviet Union.
     
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    I'm sorry, I couldn't hear you over the puppet gov't the US installed in the Ukraine. So what I'm really saying is, Why do we have any business there?
     
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    Highly recommended is the video, "Putin Exposes the NWO". Look it up on YouTube.

    The reaction on the faces in the audience is priceless!!
     
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    The "puppet" government was elected by the (gasp) Ukrainian people. And nothing the US has done was illegal...and the Russian invasion is totally 100% illegal. And it's the Ukrainian people who want to be part of the West, guess what, there is nothing wrong with their wishes.
     
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    Yep and they wouldn't be involved if they would quit killing women and children. Why do you support the Nazis. Have you no concept of what happened in history in the 1940's?
     

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