Then we are in complete agreement. Basic photo IDs should be extremely easy to obtain and available free of charge. And I really resent those who not only think we don't have a problem, but are doing everything they can to prevent our even looking into the potential problem. I personally don't think the question we need to answer is do we have a problem? I think what we need to answer is how big a problem do we have? And that's the bottom line. In the 21st century, picture IDs are a fact of life. And yes, the concerns of those who object to the legitimate need for photo IDs (and there are a number of such groups / reasons) don't rise to the level of the reason for the requirement. That's my view, anyway. Hate to have to break it to you, but your government already has access to all your personal information. Whether or not that's a good thing is a topic left for another discussion, but if you really think that that's not the case, you haven't been paying close enough attention to what's been going on...
Anybody with half a brain would know that the Federal government would obviously only request information that they don't have: voter related information, party affiliation, voting records... The Republican brain is not equipped to handle the obvious.
Actually, that's a great idea. Somehow making the polling places responsible for doing this kind of thing should be a fairly easy thing, right? Especially now that everyone has access to cameras on their phones. For those who already have a photo ID, that can be used. For those who don't have a photo id, what would be the objection to having a picture taken and associating it with the name on the voting rolls, for the purposes of future voting?
The problem with my idea is that while it would reduce the possibility of voter fraud, it is too easy and doesn't put a burden on the voter - which all the GOP plans do.
Everyone should want to make voter fraud difficult, but Liberals want illegal aliens to vote illegally. Voter ID laws are not about racism. They are a defense against Liberals and other enemies of fair elections.
What? All the GOP plans place a "burden on the voter", like requiring them to show a photo ID? So - it's kind of like most existing laws on purchasing a firearm, and certainly less onerous than the laws that Democrats wish we had for purchasing a firearm, huh? And whaddayaknow - the 2nd amendment is an actual Constitutional right.
Yes, I know the definition of quibble, but you may not. My argument was based on the need for an ID in daily activity. Since it is the center of the argument, it is not a quibble.
Isn't that also true of laws which require citizens to present a photo ID when buying a firearm? And so, by that logic, if voter ID laws are racist, then doesn't that make gun laws which require a photo ID racist?
If the problem didn't exist, Meloweese Richardson wouldn't have been convicted of voter fraud for casting 6 ballots. If the problem wasn't a problem of Democrat corruption, Obama wouldn't have commuted her sentence. If the problem wasn't widespread enough to throw elections, Democrats wouldn't have honored that criminal vote fraudster. If the Democrat Party didn't promote voter fraud, ballots wouldn't be printed in both English and the Language of the Illegal Immigrant . Not only does it facilitate the millions of votes like those cast by illegals in 2016, but it weighs down absentee ballots so the postage for people traveling to earn a living becomes tantamount to a poll tax.
Liking this requirement. Every registered Mexican voter has a Voter ID card, complete with photograph, fingerprint, and a holographic image to prevent counterfeiting. At the Mexican polling station, there is a book containing the photograph of every voter in the precinct. This book is available to the poll workers and observers from various parties. If there’s a doubt as to someone’s identity, the poll workers can simply look up the person’s name and see if the photo matches up. The Mexican voter’s thumb is smudged with ink. That way, if he shows up at another polling site to vote, they know he’s already voted elsewhere.(The ink wears off after a few days.) http://www.snopes.com/mexico-voter-id/
NC wrote a voter ID law that gave everyone the ID for free and then the court still called it racist because it was too hard for blacks to get to the DMV in order to pick up a free ID card. I don't get how it's racist unless the democrat's have a hidden agenda behind not wanting a voter ID law such as maybe covering up illegals committing ID theft in mass and then using it to vote with out a photo ID.
But people should have to pay fees not only for the ID, but in addition to it in order for them to execute their ***CONSTITUTIONAL*** rights? Can you explain that one to me, why a $25 fee on an ID to vote is wrong, but requiring it (and other fees) to buy a firearm isn't?
Again I am not against IDS, but the government should not expect money for the fundamental, Constitutional, right to vote. None of the things on your list are a right.
Sorry but the 2nd disagrees with you about guns being a right and also NC wrote a ID law that gave the IDS away for free. The liberals still cried racist and won in court.
1. You are right, the government should not charge for the right to have a gun. 2. How many times do I have to say, "I am not against government ID's to vote, I have never stated they were racist, I was not a part of any lawsuit, but if they are to be used for voting and other rights they should be free and easy to obtain." Simple question: Why are all the people on this forum who want everyone to have a government issued picture id against making that id free like the social security card is?
I am all for making a standard ID issued by the government made free so that cost would no longer be a factor. I don't know who is against it but who ever is needs to get over it as all the state needs to do is add it to the tax on cars or whatever. It would be hardly anything and solve a number of issues.
quite honestly if you don't have an ID and can't afford one, then being able to vote or not once every 2-4 years is the least of your problems. ps.... the right to bare arms is on this list of rights and is #2 on my list. no matter, i'm never going to be convinced that its too dam expensive or difficult for the vast vast vast majority of our citizens in 2017. There will always be exceptions like the 93 year old born by midwife in rural kentucky and there can be localized exceptions for those that have some significant and real hardship, which would be a tiny number. I'm thankful that we have it in Florida, the lady carefully checked my license, my signature matched, and I was able to vote along with all the other thousands in my district, all shapes sizes and colors voted. We still had to listen to some politicians gripe and groan about registration extensions for the cutoff date which was near a hurricane, always complaining. No reason why we shouldn't have to update or verify from time to time as well, even the dam LIBRARY asked me for my license to renew my library card and i'm fine with that too, everybody else in the world wants me to confirm my identity from time to time, except those people that want the voting booth verification process to look like this. its 2017 in the united states, Time to put on your big boy pants & get it together, jump through a few hoops like the rest of us and take care of the paperwork. The 1% that need help getting this done probably already have assistance to help out on whatever else is difficult or exceptions can be made. Let the rich donate, or the cities/counties/state help out with hardship claims or whatever, just make... the... actual... effort.
