Walmart turns to robots and apps in stores

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  1. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Donor

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    well say goodbye to lot of low income jobs, were are these folks going to get jobs:worry: or will they just be put on welfare and then our taxes will have to go up:no: to support them and their family.
    so are these robots and technology are being used by corporations to exploit the weakness in capitalism and nobody is stopping them:police: for do this.:confusion:
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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/07/business/walmart-robot-janitors-dotcom-store/index.html
     
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    was it this month only 155,000 jobs that were created because of robots like this o_O taking them away
     
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    did walmart use trumps tax break we gave them to buy theses robots? now u see how far deep down the rabbit technology hole goes:hmm:
     
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    Workers and unions and others can always consider old fashioned tactics many involving terrorizing the companies and those in power and scabs (robots) make it too dangerous to them to automate much further and it might go there is half of people aren't working and need welfare to survive.

    I would also note ,and I would prefer this, we could just make using robotics and technology illegal that would take jobs away and have taken jobs just wind the tech to say 1960 save for telecommunications, medical, green technology, defense and a few other areas where prudent. And tax good made by robotics imported so hard its not competitive. Then do this as a global treaty the Chinese likely would be onboard if we go there and that would bring in other nations in time to a global Ban on Robotics and AI Treaty to protect jobs and employment in all nations. And add in that a Standard of Living portion requiring a retirement system, health care, pensions and a living wage based on their standard of living in their nations and welfare support for the needy as in mimicking advanced nations. And we could then choke out low cost production labor adding a Social Adjustment tax based on how they manage to go there or not the less they will be import taxed on goods. The United States is key here and China if we together force the issue the world will have to consider following and if Germany wants to import or build here automated line cars they should be crippled by an import tariff on each car of say 150% per car and then ones in America made by people no tax (adjusted to make using people by far the better option). Now we would need unions to get on board wages and such must be realistic for each worker since well a robot would be cheaper the government protects jobs that way they might have to accept more modest wages and benefits.
     
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    Walmart would have automated anyway, with or without Trump tax cuts, with or without minimum wage raises. The tax cuts were just a nice unearned windfall that goes straight to executive compensation.

    I have been using the self checkout at Walmart for more than a year now. Just in our Walmart, that has reduced the number of workers in checkout from probably 20+ to 3 or 4. This is progress that is inevitable.
     
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    it was out of control technology that also created the atomic bomb , but this bomb looks like a job killer robot:disbelief:
     
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    That top pic is a riding wax machine.

    It still takes a person to operate it.

    Go to Walmart overnight and you will see guys riding them around.
     
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    but they be retrofitted upgrade driverless now go to video time 0:10 and see
     
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    video time 1:04 upgrade:eekeyes:
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    Welcome to the future.

    And the future is now.

    We are on the brink of complete societal breakdown.
     
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    Progress = People losing their jobs

    :disbelief:
     
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    Maybe they can become community organizers.
     
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    Its unlikely we'll see noticeable layoffs as a result of this and here's two good reasons why. One, its not like these things are going to be in every store overnight. And two, given the high rate of turnover rate for big retailers its more likely that stores will shift the worker that previous operated a floor cleaner to another position rather than fire them. At that point it becomes one of those jobs created vs jobs saved arguments.
     
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    Now the robots are turning us into robots.
    Went to the grocery store the other day.
    They can give you a little gadget like a smart phone. You walk around, pick up your stuff and scan it as you put it in the bag. When you get to checkout you just scan the gadget.
    I'm not sure how they keep you from just dropping stuff in the bag, but they must have something.
     
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    robot update
    thats right folks the old malfunctioned trick that will teach those coworkers not to mess with ai and its robot arm, so was this a shot across the bow :cowboy::rolleyes: that tech nerds have go to far in dangering coworkers
    so its just a accident when a robot does it no harm no foul ,but if a employee done that he/she would have hell to pay for it, so theirs now a double standard here because the robot can do no wrong, see its all because we need robots to replace the work force, helps the bottom and the shareholders:wierdface:
    https://www.rt.com/usa/445809-amazon-bear-repellant-robots/
     
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    Estimates are that in the next twenty years 50% of jobs can be replaced by robots. The interesting thing is like the robots at Walmart and the new fast food robots they seem to be replacing the lowest paying employees first.
     
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    out with the old poor folks they are expendable in with the new upperclass they call it progress
     
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    its math
    when its cheaper to buy and maintain automation then it cost to hire and pay a human automation wins out
    so when the cost of human labor increases and the cost of automation decrease you are going to see more and more automation
    low skilled jobs which automation can replace will slowly be void of humans
    more reason to stop the flow of unskilled illegal immigrants soon they will just be jobless burdens on society
     
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    its all well said and done but the first time this robot floor scrubber malfunctions and runs over a little old lady or some kid the store would have wished they had a human manning one instead
     
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    and artificial intelligences will be the master of it all classifying us , thats what scares the crap:cynic: out of me, i dont like the way this is:fight: going, it looks like a dead end:tombstone: for us humans
     
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