Yes I'm aware of that DW. I was raised vegetarian, and have been more or less vego my entire life. We obtain our proteins from a wide array of sources ... both animal (fish, eggs, etc) and plant.
First, your expectation of feeling full is the problem. That expectation seems to be very common in the West, and is probably a result of Post War plenty. It's a really really bad premise to start with, and if we can alter our expectation to that of the best default setting (hunger), we don't freak out and try to 'fix it' every time we have the slightest rumble. After a while it becomes normal, and doesn't feel like a problem needing fixing. As for the cups of rice .. that explains why Asians are rarely fat and don't see a lot of diet-related disease. They actually go for the rice, rather than the heavy proteins. And yes, they eat a lot of it.
The problem with a libido at 96 is that no one wants to take advantage of it. A sex drive in someone well past the age of shagability, can be worse than no libido at all.
Come now, everyone knows that when you study Medicine at any basic level, they teach about the importance of Diet and Exercise in order to be Healthy, especially growth, Infants especially need proper nutrition as they grow into childhood, teen years, to Adult, and even in old age, nutritional requirements change, are still essential, for continued good health.
You sure love to show a lack of everything. Very silly. I met another married couple in their 90s a few months ago.
No, you just don't want to know, and that is just dandy. I know plenty about Diet and I keep learning about it as well as notice things on my own. One thing is true, you chose your name well and you live up to it splendidly.
Actually my expectation is not to be full, but rather to not be obsessively hungry. Yes, a little hunger most of the time is normal for me. I lost a good amount of weight in a reasonable amount of time, so I know it works for me. I do not think asians are skinny because of rice. They ate rice rather than meat because meat takes more resources to produce. Obesity in America has to do with food not only being plentiful, but also encouraged for us to eat more and more.
Not sure what 'obsessively hungry' means. Do you mean as in after not eating for 12 hours? Or is it a psychological effect? Sorry, I didn't mean that Asians are mostly at healthy weight because of rice. What I meant was exactly what you said - it's because they eat very little animal protein - for the reasons you gave. Consequently, they 'fill up' on rice. They're also more active than westerners, so they burn off all those carbs before bed. Not sure what encouragement has to do with it. You haven't seen 'encouragement' to keep eating, until you've been hosted by Asians. They are insanely high pressure (it's more like force feeding, sometimes), yet still don't have issues with obesity. I don't think any external factors are involved, TBH. We have access to every cuisine in the world, and every eating style in the world, and can make that choice at just about every meal. IOW, we're not limited to cheeseburgers.
It's a continuum. Obsessively hungry means it's hard to get your mind off of it and do other things. Your body is screaming at you to eat, and nothing can distract you from it. Then I eat a pound of strawberries and I'm satisfied for about 30 minutes, and only a little hungry for a few hours after that, which is fine since it was only 150 calories. Life is always a multiple choice test. We have a choice, but context determines the wording and variety of choices. In terms of our tendencies, our species and the species that preceded us were usually struggling to reliably get enough food to live and reproduce, and so we are "wired" to want to gorge on rich foods and build up a fat reserve to survive harder times. When food was plentiful, this leads to problems of overeating. Though that doesn't decrease the tendency to do it since by the time we die of a heart attack we already had kids, surviving a famine while we were children made it worth it. On the other hand, some people eat whatever they want and never have trouble, and others must really think about it and struggle to avoid obesity. This may be related to genetics or how they learned to think of food growing up. The way in which Americans have been encouraged to eat more is in marketing, as with extreme sports stars encouraging drinking mountain dew, and other techniques such as offering a better deal if we buy even more food. Only 50 cents more to get twice as much food as we need. We feel like we're missing out on a deal if we decline. Then there's the fact that the food industry was subsidized in an unhealthy way, making high-fructose corn syrup artificially cheaper than it should be, and thus ubiquitous in our food. There's nothing special about high-fructose, really, but subsidizing sugar and putting it into everything because it's cheap and makes people like the taste. There's just a lot of factors. The whole individual freedom thing is a shortcut way of thinking of things that ignores a complicated reality.
Good thoughts, thanks Meantime, I can't agree that it's complex. Example, I have a friend who has been obese since she had her kids (around 20 years). She's morbidly obese in fact, and has associated complications like Insulin Resistance, Hypertension, Sleep Apnoea, etc. Anyway, she has been consulting various medical specialists on and off for years. Endocrinologists, Gastroenterologists, Psychs, etc. Huge amounts of money spent. Since nothing has worked, she's continued in her search for 'answers', and is today under the care of a Hypnotherapist, a Herbalist, an Endocrinologist, a GP, and a Clinical Nutritionist. She insists that this is all necessary because her situation is 'complex'. The only thing she has literally never tried - is eating less and exercising more. The simplest solution of all.
Try fillers, shredded wheat cereals are filling but not fattening, no sugar and one percent milk, also, habits must change too. Volume without the bad stuff. A bariatric Surgeon commented on that that volume diets could accomplish the same as lap band surgery. Some types of noodles also do the same thing.
My grandfather was a hard-working farmer who had a program for "fatties" and cantankerous kids. He called it "more work and less to eat."
When protein is consumed without carbs, insulin is secreted anyway as part of the digestive/metabolic process. In order to prevent insulin from driving down the blood sugar, the hormone Glucagon is secreted to raise blood sugar levels thus opposing the effect of otherwise spurious or excessive insulin. Hence the stabilizing effect of eggs or meat. Fats also slow down or delay the progression of digestion and absorption.
Realistically, you can't workout hard enough to make up for a bad diet. Of course no exercise is really bad. But a lot of people have a distorted sense of how many calories you can burn in a workout. The rule of thumb is that weight control is 80% diet, 20% exercise. When you consume 3500 calories in a day, don't expect that treadmill to do a damned thing!
the government requires carpet glue now be added to all cigarettes sold in the usa, so doubt any smoker will be breaking that record anytime soon and with the current (SAD) Standard American diet, doubt any non-smokers will top that smokers life span anytime soon
interesting article, mice prefer sugar over cocaine https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1931610/ "Our findings clearly demonstrate that intense sweetness can surpass cocaine reward, even in drug-sensitized and -addicted individuals. We speculate that the addictive potential of intense sweetness results from an inborn hypersensitivity to sweet tastants. In most mammals, including rats and humans, sweet receptors evolved in ancestral environments poor in sugars and are thus not adapted to high concentrations of sweet tastants. The supranormal stimulation of these receptors by sugar-rich diets, such as those now widely available in modern societies, would generate a supranormal reward signal in the brain, with the potential to override self-control mechanisms and thus to lead to addiction."
once you get rid of the high carbs and sugars, you do not have that constant hunger spikes from the insulin spikes and drops - I was reading one anti-keto site and one of the danger they said of keto is you may forget to eat as you would not be hungry, wow, now I think many would be happy with that side effect, of course you do get hungry, but it's no where near the high carb hunger that is almost like an addiction
I wish I could put on my file that if I ever have to be tube fed, to use a keto brand, and not to make me fat, can you imagine waking up from a couple year comma being huge, when the medical community is feeding you, why is it so hard for them to see your gaining weight and reduce the amount to the correct amount, that is not healthy
