WAPO. Obama, and Trump

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  1. Sandy Shanks

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    Yes, even Trump is finally admitting that.

    But, his tweets, wow. In all seriousness, I wonder if he is okay. He is not making any sense, and he certainly isn't acting like a President.
     
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    Another case where Trump Chumps will rise to defend the indefensible.
    Common sense and logic all point one way, but they follow the reality show host and defend the liar making ridiculous statements.
    Amazing to watch.
    Almost makes one think there was an opioid epidemic impacting people's thought processes...wait, there is...
     
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    Explain to me why Trump fans want our intelligence agencies to reveal their intelligence and how they obtained it. We hear that all the time from Trump's fans.

    Then again, maybe there is a reasonable explanation. We know Trump has benefited a great deal from Russian efforts. It follows that there is some affinity between Trump's friends and the Russians.
     
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    I don't get what you're claiming SS.

    1) Are you suggesting that President Obama should've acted on the warnings about Russian interference.

    2) Are you suggesting that President Trumps complaints about President Obama not acting are ridiculous as Trump was in fact benefiting?

    3) Neither

    4) Both.
     
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    Are you suggesting that you wouldn't have SCREAMED "politics" if Obama HAD done what you suggest?
     
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    And there is nothing in those 36 pages to support that notion.
     
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    No, I do not expect our intelligence to reveal their sources and methods, just that it would be interesting..... and curious since their intel sounds extremely explicit -- normally not the case.
    You don't know that Trump benefited a great deal from Russian efforts. The Wikileaks that might have been beneficial (though it's still speculation that they originated in Russia) sailed right over the heads of the public and the media and lasted a couple of dull days in the news cycle.
     
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    Given the inability of anyone to assess the veracity of the WAPO reporting, and the fact that so much of it has been flatly false, what are we, the public, supposed to think here? WAPO have, repeatedly, reported things that later required retraction, restatement, publicly apologize for their egregious partisan hack reporting. So, why should any of this now fall into the "well, they got this one right" bucket? How can we know?

    Again, if a package that was only ever seen by 4 people in the WH, the assumption is that there are very few folks who know what was delivered, and the full context of it. If any of those folks (excluding mr Obama) leaked the context of eyes only, they would functionally be committing treason. If any of the analysts in the CIA et al leaked this information, it would be treason. Since the story came out after mr Obama left office, he no longer has the executive privilege to declassify the content of the package, and if he leaked, he would have committed treason.

    So, question for our liberal friends here, who do you suppose is the treasonous wretch that leaked this to the WAPO who then also committed treason by publishing it?
     
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    I said, "Trump, as President, still has not condemned Russia for interfering in our election. In point of fact, he is blaming the former President for the interference.

    "Trump has been President for over five months. He has not taken any punitive steps against Russia for interfering in our election. In fact, he bragged to two prominent Russians in the Oval Office that he fired the man in charge of investigating Russian interference in our election."

    That is all you have to say? Amazing! Well, I guess there isn't anything you can say. Those are the unpleasant facts if one is a Trump fan.
     

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