Was 9/11 an inside job?

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Was 9/11 an inside job?

  1. yes

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  2. no

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  3. I don't know

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  4. I don't care

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  5. unlikely yet I wouldn't rule it out

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  1. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Yes. Terminals, waiting areas, luggage check-in, everything is swarming with cameras.

    Because airports have cameras that record every single square meter at any boarding area 24/7. And they did. Videos have been made available to the public. The terrorists are nowhere to be seen.

    It's the terrorists we're talking about not the passengers.

    You believe the official story for no reason other than because they wear suits and bow ties, have high ranking positions and appear on TV. It's hard for you to accept that you believe them just for that but you'll get used to it.
     
  2. LogicallyYours

    LogicallyYours New Member

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    So, by the fact that you cannot find them or they haven't been made public means it didn't happen, right?

    So says you but, you really don't know. Is called "Assumption"..and it's not proof or evidence.

    ...and???

    No, I believe what happened that day can be proved by the evidence we have. Videos, eyewitnesses, IDs and the fact that the families of the terrorists and terrorists cells have not stepped forward to say those terrorist are not actually dead.

    Nothing wrong with asking question...but two things you should know/do....

    1. Research your question first.
    2. Know that asking a question is not the same as providing proof or evidence.

    Learn how to use your critical thinking skills.
     
  3. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Want some evidence?

    John Skilling, chief structural engineer of the WTC interviewed in 1993 after the 1993 bombing. He makes the point crystal clear: jet fuel fires can not take the building down. Here is the full article from The Seattle times official website:

    http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19930227&slug=1687698

    There is a long list of evidence. Watch from 10:30 as I advise you to skip most of the boring introduction and get straight into the specifics of this objective, academic-like approach:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk#t=630

    then there's part 2 and 3 you could watch in full:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=K7mDXHn_byA#t=1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=DegLpgJmFL8#t=0

    There is more if you want...
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Jet fuel fires alone didn't 'take the building down'
     
  5. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    Not looking too good, Vlad.
     
  6. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    lol man, that's not the point of it (looking good) :lol: ;not the point of any poll...
     
  7. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    Read for comprehension. Your prediction isn't coming true.
     
  8. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Read my post carefully, I didn't predict anything but was merely wondering:

     
  9. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    And ... not.
     
  10. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Lol you seem to have been waiting all week long just for this... But there's 20 votes so far anyway. Not enough to reflect the world public view. I thought there would be many more as it looks like a popular forum. But nevermind, the poll will stay open for many many years ahead.
     
  11. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    And the ratio will remain pretty much the same.

    The 'truth movement' died out years ago. They forgot to tell the dumber members.
     
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    Hannibal New Member

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    The results are pretty telling.
     
  13. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    What results? 20 votes... Come on. I expected many votes, not this.
     
  14. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Sure it died... Only that a case against the United States is about to be filed to the International Court in the coming years regarding 9/11. But uninformed members of the public like you are forgotten out of this issue, because that's how it's supposed to be all along. They also say they have enough evidence on smaller 9/11 like incidents in Europe directed by the CIA and NATO to instigate the European public against the USSR.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/presid...rimes-to-international-criminal-court/5303884
     
  15. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    Of course it is. :roflol:

    Which court, exactly? And what jurisdiction do they have?
     
  16. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    Jurisdiction is extended by default since there were also Italian victims on 9/11 and others from other countries (apparently 80 countries in total). The fact that USA is not a signatory will not make a difference, at least formally. But the action is also supported by law figures from within the USA:

    http://911summary.com/legal.php
     
  17. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    The site you link to was last updated September 14, 2009.
    What's the hold up?

    Also: the linked site lists Mills M. Kay Mackey as a structural engineer, of Denver, Colorado. They list him under "highly credible people". http://911summary.com/structure.php

    Do you know who that is? If so - do you stand behind his research and credibility?
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    You mean the same mackey who claims a 'pineapple sized nuke' melted out the inside of the WTC?
     
  19. Hannibal

    Hannibal New Member

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    Nope, this is an entirely different Mackey.
     
  20. Hannibal

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    Vlad? Do you stand behind your link's credibility when it comes to Mackey?
     
  21. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    He is just one of thousands. You can't just pick one person and say that he/she represents an entire movement. Nothing is perfect.
     
  22. Hannibal

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    You linked to the site, which holds up Mackey as a "highly credible" expert. Do you support this endorsement or not?
     
  23. Vlad Ivx

    Vlad Ivx Active Member Past Donor

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    omg, grow up
     
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    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    I don't know what makes either of you think you'll be able to prove something, conclusively. Liar's can be incredible malcontents or highly decorated and "accomplished" political figures. How many liar's told you about the reasons for entering the Vietnam War before we found out it was all a lie? Yellow Cake? How many liars pushed off South American sabotage and the funding of tyrants and political/economic terrorism as "freedom fighting". How credible is Reagan, his generals, or the government during Iran-Contra? How credible was Nixon or Bush or Clinton.

    Before we "knew" these people were liars, people forget that they were able to furnish all sorts of professional evidence for their claims. To believe otherwise, you were just some idiot who needed to shut up. Now we have the same discussion yet again. The government is accussed, and people rely on the governments testimony of innocence as valid by default.
     
  25. Hannibal

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    You link to a site, they hold up this guy as a credible expert and you haven't even done the research to see who he is or what he claims ... and then you tell me to grow up?

    Are you enjoying being led around blindly?

    - - - Updated - - -

    I'm not relying on any government testimony.
    I'm asking about the credibility of the man this site holds up as a credible expert ... and the 'truthers' don't even know who he is or what he stands for. I know exactly who he is, but I'd like to know if the 'truthers' believe in him.
     

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