Was Jesus God?

Jesus was no more a god than any one of us


Read what 'god' saith-ith-ith

22 And Jehovah God saith, `Lo, the man was as one of Us, as to the knowledge of good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand, and have taken also of the tree of life, and eaten, and lived to the age,' --

 

GeeZiss will die and enter his tomb on dec 21 like he has for thousands of years. On Dec 25 he shall rise again and be reborn to save the world. Until you understand that......you are an idiot.
One more: Man with a pitcher of water---house. Take it from there.

 

Jesus was correct no one in this world is good except God and the only way any humans can become good the God way is to focus on the spiritual Kingdom of God the road to it is not to commit adultery, murder, do not steal, do not bare false witness, honour your father and mother all of those things that have proove to be difficult to accomplish by human only a few will become good the Apostles, Saints and Buddha.

So is the way of God, the people will have to see it and understand it themselves without someone forcing them to believe that Jesus Christ is God; Jesus ask Peter; Matthew 16:13-20
13 When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, “Who do people say the Son of Man is?”

14 They replied, “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets.”

15 “But what about you?” he asked. “Who do you say I am?”

16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Messiah, the Son of the living God.”

17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. 18 And I tell you that you are Peter,[a] and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be[c] bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be[d] loosed in heaven.” 20 Then he ordered his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Messiah.

Peter got it right, and Jesus acknowledge Peter's answer that he is Son of God.

And we see many have refuse and rejected Jesus Christ.

Yes, I know that because I read and believe the actual historical fact that a man name Jesus of Nazareth taught about Son of God, about God and he was crucified for that he resurrected that proof that He is the Son of God. And that was the day when Jesus resurrected that we finally realise that Jesus is the father, and that we who believe and accepted Him will be with Him, the Holy Spirit which is God will come to us and guide us to enlighten us that God's Kingdom is not of this world.

The Scripture explain just how much the people are so much influence to this world and have failed to understand that God's true kingdom is not here but it is spiritual. The spirit or soul is what that will live on eternally not the human body.

Yes, and many good men have been shut down and persecuted for revealing the truth.

That is why education is their biggest fear they rule by keeping the people illiterate and place an iron curtain, bamboo curtain or black cloth around the people.

 

You can not handle the torture and pain that Jesus Christ experience and went through to be crucified, that is why after he was crucified all the apostle and his followers become fearful and went to hiding they fear they will suffer the same horrible death as Jesus did but after Jesus resurrected they all become reborn, their fears disappear they become super brave they went out and start preaching even if it mean to die a horrible death they have nothing to gain but lose everything because they understood that it is about the spirit the Kingdom of God is not of this world.

Their is only one Michael Jordan, one Einstein, one Isaac Newton, one Bill Gates and only One Jesus Christ the Son of God.

 

and nature is god itself

always has been

natures life, is gods

ie... a baby is born pure (of god), until learning 'bad'

buddha dont do a jesus as a god, like you do.

buddha is like a jesus (teacher)

jesus spoke of peter. 23 and he having turned, said to Peter, `Get thee behind me, adversary! thou art a stumbling-block to me, for thou dost not mind the things of God, but the things of men.'[/quote]

punks need a messiah

the good do what is right, without havng to be a stupid liar

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And we see many have refuse and rejected Jesus Christ.[/quote]

jesus aint christ

and knew it john 14:30 I will no more talk much with you, for the ruler of this world doth come, and in me he hath nothing

jesus did talk about ANOTHER

Not that HE was the name holder and the bringer of good news.

the spirit of your life is the light.

For example: when you sleep each night, you personally are doing nothing but what you did, still lives.

Roger Bacon, Gallileo, Newton, Darwin and then here and now, Me and you shut down anything that renders that what you believe is practically bull sh't

I just mentioned 4 greats (giants) found the foundations of knowledge; have you read any of their books, personally?


amd jesus didnt write a thing!


You follow me (belief) not truth!

 

many have been tortured far worse by the church itself. (witches etc)

Roger Bacon was imprisoned for almost 2 decades.

that is such prideful garbage.

If jesus was 'god' he would have come back to that court and said, 'hey punks, you cant kill me" and then finished all the magic that morons expect of messiah

I wonder if jesus would appreciate being put in the company of your choices of 'only one' of......

But be certain, there is only one of me as only one idiot that could have the name (of god) and never sell it!

 

Nature is part of God's great creation, nature is not God only god to the pagans and this is one reason why God had to personally reveal Himself to His people explain that here I AM.

Babies are born good just like humans are created good until Satan get to them, and that is where the struggle begins, humans will have to start to understand and develop to become good by defeating evil.

Buddha is not the messiah, he is not a God he is a messenger he understood what and how to be good how to reach enlightenment, he is with God.

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That gospel was an incident when Peter tried to stop Jesus from going to Jerusalem, here is the full context of:
Matthew 16:21-25 21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, the chief priests and the teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

22 Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross and follow me. 25 For whoever wants to save their life[a] will lose it, but whoever loses their life for me will find it.

As you can see, Jesus rebuke Peter for trying to stop him from going to Jerusalem to fulfil his mission, and Jesus was right for Peter's action would is what Satan wanted.

Punks worship and follow false messiah, righteous men understand the Messiah.

Yes, only the anti Christ will be a stupid liar they will keep on lying against facts.

Yes, there are many who have rejected Jesus Christ in spite of all the miracles, sacrifice, his teachings, facts and most of all His resurrection still many rejects Him that is why it is truly a blessing for those who worship Him. Thomas the doubter after personally seeing the resurrected Christ, touching His wounds and flesh would kneel down and said John 20:28 "My Lord and my God" and Jesus will say (John 20:29) "29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

I believe.

In that gospel Jesus has already resurrected and is getting ready to return to God, two things here (1) Jesus express about the God the Father and he being the Son attesting to the existence of the Trinity (further gospel Jesus will say the Holy Spirit will be send to guide the apostles). (2) Jesus is talking to his apostles.

John 14:28-35 28 “You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. 29 I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe. 30 I will not say much more to you, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold over me, 31 but he comes so that the world may learn that I love the Father and do exactly what my Father has commanded me.
“Come now; let us leave.

Yes, Jesus is revealing once again to his apostles that he is the Son of God and he clearly is saying that his Father is waiting for him that ANOTHER that you say is God the Father.

Jesus fulfil his mission in the name of God and now he returns to be united with God to become One with Him.

The light that lights my spirit is the Holy Spirit.

And when we die we sleep no more our spirit lives on forever.

The Catholic church has been in the forefront of scientific expansion Galileo was too much politicised by enemies of the church this will be on another thread. What I believe may be bs to you and to all anti Christ anti Catholics that is your free will of choice many saints have prove that Christianity is no BS we have stood against tyranny, step up when others refuse to do so, reach out even if it means death and persecution.

He didn't have to write anything because He is God just like Moses did all the writing for God so did the apostles.

I follow the Light, the Truth and the Way that is Jesus Christ.

 

. Nature is mans creator and man made (created) your god. You just don't realize, but internally you already know it.

Man mad genesis, not a god.

like you many do not believe that they themselves are capable of being just that nasty.

No satan makes a man bad, people and the selfishness that each are personally capable of, is what enables evil.

No satan makes you post such garbage as any can read coming from your opinion. You are doing it by choice.

I will finish later are I have people to see off to their honeymoom

 

Genesis 1:1
[ The History of Creation ] In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

John 1:1-5

The Eternal Word
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.

John 1:14

The Word Becomes Flesh
14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

That WORD was none other than the LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, that was in the beginning with GOD.

HE put on human flesh to walk among us, to show us how to live, love GOD, and love one another, the way to Heaven, and so that HE would be able to die on the cross as the perfect, spotless Lamb of GOD, the perfect sacrifice for our sins.

There was NO other way for our sins to be atoned for.

HE rose again on the third day for our Justification, Salvation, and Sanctification, that we may be righteous, holy, and have eternal life in HIM, to them that would and will repent and believe on HIS NAME.

The Blessed LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST was and is fully GOD, and fully man.

At one time, HE was Spirit, until GOD the Father sent HIM into the world in human flesh, born of the virgin, Mary.

Exodus 3:14
And God said to Moses, “I AM WHO I AM.” And He said, “Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.’”

John 8:58
Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

John 14:7 - 11

The Father Revealed
7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves.

John 17:11
Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.

John 17:21
that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me.

No one is able to completely understand this.

However, JESUS is fully and truly GOD, and fully and truly man. HE has two natures when HE put on human flesh.

JESUS and the FATHER are One.

We will not be able to completely understand this in this life. It is a mystery.

Like the Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. They are ALL One, intertwind.

As the great hymn of the Faith quotes, "GOD in three Persons, Blessed Trinity."- Christian Hymn "Holy, Holy, Holy"

Examples of the Trinity:

Matthew 3:16 - 17
16 When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He[c] saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him. 17 And suddenly a voice came from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.”

Matthew 17:5 While he was still speaking, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and suddenly a voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Hear Him!”

There are many other examples, even in the Old Testament where people saw a bodily, physical form, described as GOD, seated on HIS throne, other times standing. This was the pre-incarnate CHRIST, the WORD, before HE put on human flesh.

Again, we will NEVER fully understand all of this in this life. Nor will we be able to explain it. These are mysteries.

Lastly,

Look at Isaiah 53. It describes in exact detail the suffering and death of our Blessed LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST.

Prophecies that only HE alone fulfilled.

Everything in the Old Testament points to the LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST.

The New Testament is the exact reflection of the Old Testament.

JESUS fulfilled the Old Testament Law. HE did NOT come to abollish the law, but to fulfill it. HE fulfilled the Law to the letter.

HE represented and was the Law.

 

YES!!!

Water is a gas / vapor, liquid, and a solid, yet, they are ONE, ALL one in the same. Each does something different, but they are the same.

One of the best examples to explain the Trinity.

Another one is this,

I'm a son, a brother, and a dad, yet, I'm one person, all one in the same.

 

You're misunderstanding and misinterpreting Scripture on these points.

For example, your very first verse:

Matthew 19:17, Mark 10:18
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

The Blessed LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST, was trying to explain to him that only GOD was good. JESUS was NOT saying HE was NOT GOD.

HE was simply stating, you're calling me good? Only GOD is good. And JESUS is GOD, Who is good. The man was acknowledging something unique about JESUS. A confession. JESUS was and is good. JESUS is GOD, NOT just because HE is good, but because HE really is GOD.

Doubting Thomas, when he saw the Blessed LORD in HIS resurrected, glorious Body, exclaimed, "My Lord, and my GOD."

The many I AM statements of JESUS...HE is indeed, and most certainly GOD.

Scripture interprets Scripture. There are NO contradictions. NO errors. NO flaws.

That's one of the many reasons why the BIBLE is really a miracle BOOK.

Historical Literature
Archeological Discoveries
Fulfillment of Biblical Prophecies

The BIBLE is unlike any other book ever written, because it is Divine, Supernatural, and Miraculous.

If there appears to be a contradiction, that is because somewhere, one has failed to interpret the Scriptures in their proper form and context.

 

Anyone ever hear of C.S. Lewis's Trilemma?

Lewis's Trilemma is an argument intended to prove the divinity of Jesus. It was popularised by C. S. Lewis in a BBC radio talk and in his writings. It is sometimes summarized either as "Lunatic, Liar, or Lord", or as "Mad, Bad, or God."

HistoryThis argument was widely cited in various forms in the nineteenth century. It was used by the American preacher Mark Hopkins in his book Lectures on the Evidences of Christianity (1846), based on lectures delivered in 1844.[1] Another early use of this approach was by the Scots preacher "Rabbi" John Duncan (1796–1870), around 1859-60:[2]

"Christ either deceived mankind by conscious fraud, or He was Himself deluded and self-deceived, or He was Divine. There is no getting out of this trilemma. It is inexorable."

Other preachers who used this approach included Reuben Archer Torrey (1856–192[3] and W. E. Biederwolf (1867–1939).[4]

[edit] Lewis's formulationC. S. Lewis was an Oxford medieval historian, popular writer, and Christian apologist. He used the argument outlined below in a series of BBC radio talks later published as the book Mere Christianity.

"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: I’m ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I don’t accept his claim to be God. That is the one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic — on the level with the man who says he is a poached egg — or else he would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God, or else a madman or something worse. You can shut him up for a fool, you can spit at him and kill him as a demon or you can fall at his feet and call him Lord and God, but let us not come with any patronising nonsense about his being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to. ... Now it seems to me obvious that He was neither a lunatic nor a fiend: and consequently, however strange or terrifying or unlikely it may seem, I have to accept the view that He was and is God."[5]

Lewis's trilemma is based on the view that, in his words and deeds, Jesus was asserting a claim to be God. For example, in Mere Christianity, Lewis refers to what he says are Jesus' claims:

to have authority to forgive sins—behaving as if he really was "the person chiefly offended in all offences."[6][7][8]
to have always existed,[9] and
to intend to come back to judge the world at the end of time.[10]

Lewis argues that these claims logically exclude the possibility that Jesus was merely "a great moral teacher" because he believes that no ordinary human making such claims could possibly be rationally or morally reliable. Elsewhere, Lewis refers to this argument as "the aut Deus aut malus homo" ("either God or a bad man"),[11] a reference to an earlier version of the argument used by Henry Parry Liddon in his 1866 Bampton Lectures, in which Liddon argued for the divinity of Jesus based on a number of grounds, including the claims he believed Jesus made.[12]

[edit] InfluenceThe trilemma has continued to be used in Christian apologetics since Lewis, notably by writers like Josh McDowell. Peter Kreeft describes the trilemma as "the most important argument in Christian apologetics"[13] and it forms a major part of the first talk in the Alpha Course and the book based on it, Questions of Life by Nicky Gumbel. Ronald Reagan also used this argument in 1978, in a written reply to a liberal Methodist minister who said that he did not believe Jesus was the son of God.[14] A variant has also been quoted by Bono.[15] The Lewis version has been cited by Charles Colson as the basis of his conversion to Christianity.[16] Stephen Davis, a supporter of Lewis and of this argument,[17] argues that it can show belief in the Incarnation as rational.[17]

[edit] CriticismsWriting of the argument’s “almost total absence from discussions about the status of Jesus by professional theologians and biblical scholars”,[17] Davis comments that it “is often severely criticized, both by people who do and by people who do not believe in the divinity of Jesus”.[17]

[edit] False premisesSee also: Historicity of the New Testament
A frequent criticism is the claim that the statements and actions referred to by Lewis were an invention of the early Christian movement, seeking to glorify Jesus.[18] According to Bart Ehrman, 'there could be a fourth option – legend'.[19] Lewis himself denied the accounts of Jesus were legends: "I have read a great deal of legend and I am quite clear that they are not the same sort of thing". [20] N. T. Wright, a leading New Testament scholar, comments that Lewis's argument "doesn't work as history, and it backfires dangerously when historical critics question his reading of the Gospels."[21]

[edit] Ambiguous termsThe trilemma rests on the interpretation of New Testament authors' depiction of Jesus: a widespread objection is that the statements by Jesus recorded in the Gospels are being misinterpreted, and do not constitute claims to divinity.[17]

In a criticism of Lewis's approach in his bestselling 1963 book, Honest to God, John A. T. Robinson, then Bishop of Woolwich, questioned the idea that Jesus intended to claim divinity: "It is, indeed, an open question whether Jesus claimed to be Son of God, let alone God".[22] John Hick, writing in 1993, argued that this 'once popular form of apologetic' was ruled out by changes in New Testament studies, citing 'broad agreement' that scholars do not today support the view that Jesus claimed to be God, quoting as examples Michael Ramsey (1980), C. F. D. Moule (1977), James Dunn (1980), Brian Hebblethwaite (1985) and David Brown (1985).[23] According to Gerd Lüdemann the broad consensus among a number of New Testament scholars is that the proclamation of the divinity of Jesus was a development within the earliest Christian communities.[24] Larry Hurtado, who argues that the followers of Jesus within a very short period developed an exceedingly high level of devotional reverence to Jesus,[25] at the same time rejects the view that Jesus made a claim to messiahship or divinity to his disciples during his life as 'naive and ahistorical'.[26] N. T. Wright says the 'trilemma' argument lacks historical context, oversimplifying first century Judaism's understanding of the nature of God's dealings with his people.[21] Wright points out that arguments over the claims of Jesus regarding divinity have been passed over by more recent scholarship, which sees a more complex understanding of the idea of God in first century Judaism.[27]

[edit] Invalid logical formAnother criticism raised is that Lewis is creating a false dilemma by insisting that only three options are possible. Philosopher John Beversluis comments that "he deprives his readers of numerous alternate interpretations of Jesus that carry with them no such odious implications".[28] Philosopher and theologian William Lane Craig cites this as a reason why he believes it is an unsound argument for Christianity.[29] Peter Kreeft and Ronald Tacelli, SJ - both professors of philosophy at Boston College - have expanded the argument into a tetralemma (Lord, Liar, Lunatic or Legend) — or a pentalemma, accommodating the option that Jesus was a guru, who believed himself to be God in the sense that everything is divine.[30]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis's_trilemma

I would also suggest checking out Josh McDowell("More Than A Carpenter," "New Evidence That Demands a Verdict"), Lee Strobel("The Case for Faith," "The Case for Christ," and "The Case for a Creator"), and Ravi Zacharias, and Ken Ham(Answers In Genesis) who are the biggest debaters and defenders and Christian Apologists of the Christian FAITH, today.

By the way, some of the above mentioned people were atheists at one time, trying to disprove Christianity and the Resurrection of our LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST.

They found more evidence and proof and TRUTH for it than against it.

Awesome!!!

 

I posted this in another Thread in the Religion Section of this forum, to help explain why people accept one Holy Book as the WORD of GOD over all the rest, or why we accept one and NOT any of the others.

I hope this shines light on some things.

The Torah or Pentateuch actually consists of the first 5 Books of the HOLY BIBLE: Genesis, Exodus, Levitucus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy.

We believe the BIBLE to be absolute TRUTH, the inspired, inerrorent, infallible, flawless WORD of GOD, written by men, yet, men wrote under inspiration of GOD. GOD gave and told the WORDS to man, what to write.

We do NOT accept the talmud or koran or other supposed or so called holy books because we do not believe they have the inspiration of GOD behind it, ONLY man's logic, and reason, which are fallible, flawed, and in error. Man's thoughts are NOT divine. GOD's thoughts are Divine. HE inspired Man to write.

Why the BIBLE only?!

Several reasons.

Historical literature

Archeological discoveries

Fulfilment of Biblical Prophecy

Scripture in the BIBLE interprets Scripture. Some say there are contradictions. There are NO contradictions, though. NONE whatsoever.

The HOLY BIBLE is the only BOOK in the world with the track record of prophecy and fulfillment of those prophecies.

It really is a miracle BOOK.

The BIBLE says as one of "The Ten Commandments," "You shall have NO other gods before ME."

Jesus said, "I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life. NO man comes to the Father, but by ME."

If we accepted other supposed or so called holy books besides the BIBLE, we would be putting other gods(non-Christian gods beside the ONE and ONLY TRUE GOD). That would be idolatry.

The same way with the quote from the Blessed LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST. If we accepted other supposed or so called holy books, we would be trying to gain entrance into Heaven through another way and another god(non-Christian god).

As far as different versions go: MOST of the BIBLES have been translated from the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts, into versions of the BIBLE; King James Version, New King James Version, New American Standard Bible, New International Version, Living Translation, New Living Translation, and many other different versions, to help people better understand the BIBLE and the meaning of it.

I do NOT agree with some versions of the BIBLE because they have watered the meaning of it down so much that it has lost its substance and meaning.

I have been told by a Hebrew and Greek scholar that the New King James Version and New American Standard Bible are the most literal to the original Hebrew and Greek manuscripts.

Lastly, should we accept any other so called or supposed holy book, that would mean there would be something wrong with the BIBLE. That would be saying that the BIBLE is not absolute Truth. That would be saying that the BIBLE had errors in it.

The BIBLE most certainly does NOT have any errors in it, NONE whatsoever.

Some people say the BIBLE contains the WORD of GOD. The BIBLE does NOT merely contain the WORD of GOD. The BIBLE IS the WORD of GOD.

 

Mark 2:7
“Why does this Man speak blasphemies like this? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

Luke 5:21
And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, “Who is this who speaks blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

Luke 7:48 - 50

48 Then He said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.”

49 And those who sat at the table with Him began to say to themselves, “Who is this who even forgives sins?”

50 Then He said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you. Go in peace.”

Matthew 26:62-64

62 And the high priest arose and said to Him, “Do You answer nothing? What is it these men testify against You?” 63 But Jesus kept silent. And the high priest answered and said to Him, “I put You under oath by the living God: Tell us if You are the Christ, the Son of God!”

64 Jesus said to him, “It is as you said. Nevertheless, I say to you, hereafter you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Luke 22:66 - 71
Jesus Faces the Sanhedrin
66 As soon as it was day, the elders of the people, both chief priests and scribes, came together and led Him into their council, saying, 67 “If You are the Christ, tell us.”

But He said to them, “If I tell you, you will by no means believe. 68 And if I also ask you, you will by no means answer Me or let Me go. [j] 69 Hereafter the Son of Man will sit on the right hand of the power of God.”

70 Then they all said, “Are You then the Son of God?”

So He said to them, “You rightly say that I am.”

71 And they said, “What further testimony do we need? For we have heard it ourselves from His own mouth.”

John 10:22 - 33

The Shepherd Knows His Sheep
22 Now it was the Feast of Dedication in Jerusalem, and it was winter. 23 And Jesus walked in the temple, in Solomon’s porch. 24 Then the Jews surrounded Him and said to Him, “How long do You keep us in doubt? If You are the Christ, tell us plainly.”

25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”

Renewed Efforts to Stone Jesus
31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. 32 Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?”

33 The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

Mark 14:61b - 64

61 Again the high priest asked Him, saying to Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?”

62 Jesus said, “I am. And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.”

63 Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, “What further need do we have of witnesses? 64 You have heard the blasphemy! What do you think?”

And they all condemned Him to be deserving of death.

NO One can do these things, sit at the right hand of GOD, come with the clouds of Heaven, power to forgive sin, and accomplish all of the many miracles, signs, and wonders unless HE were indeed, GOD.

 

Honesty is something to watch man

 

stupid post

jesus aint god

and that scripture was jesus telling the guy, he aint god

he told the guy what to do; follow the f'cking rules (6 of them).

 

idiot made a god of a man

Heck nostradamus saved more lives during the plague, than jesus muhammad and moses combined

And he aint a god either.

 

liars are who deserve death


look at what they have done to you!

 

One thing that those authors missed, is that Jesus was crucified because of blasphemy, he up setted the Pharisees so much because he refuse to say he is not the Son of God, he refuse to deny he is the Messiah for that the Pharisees have him crucified.

 

Nature can not be man's creator at the same time man can not be creator of god or nature. I knew that very much that is why I am very consistent with facts.

I already knew the nastiness of humans since high school and how did I knew that because the Holy Spirit.

And who influences man to be evil, Satan.

Understandable the influence of Satan is strong in your respond and opinion against God that have all been base on wild conjecture nor facts, why not stick to fact, because Satan does not want facts only distortion and lies. Yes, I post base on my choice, the choice to be on the side of God not Satan.

 

now that is the biggest divide i have ever witnessed from a christian.

how many see that?

jesus was like many other 'good' teachers; judged for being different. His legacy is of claiming that each are equally capable.

he went against what was taught.


Truth most always conflicts what is accepted and believed.

but truth endures, while the lie fades over time.

Jesus was no more a god to forgiveness than darwin was to evolution.

say, "Copernicus".............. (what came to mind)

 

WHY can nature not be GOD itself?

Is she what enables your every breath? Your food?

Your every awaken moment?

three yes's

and nothing you can do to change what your alpha to omega is

and cant even write such a lie

are you just as capable of being just as nasty as any?

but of choice, of your life, of your mind, YOU choose not to do some of what you dont like to see, yet will fase witness as if you are the one to know.

that's a lie

each make their choice

you like to witness what is of lying and confessing that satan is causing bad, when you know choice.. yourself.......... is how I can and anyone can see how the liars work

i aint against god


YOU ARE DENYING GOD

YOU are professing what liars have claimed versus being humble to truth.

I am just pointing out, what error of false witness is, at each post of ill regard that I can assist others in seeing for themselves.

I posted what jesus per se said, and reminded you that jesus was claiming to await

i do

fact A1........... jesus did not have the name of god and enable mankind as prophecied.

you know that, i know that, the majority on the earth know that.

I also pointed out where jesus (of biblical) claimed that another is coming (see revelation)

I pointed out where he said (charged) per se, that NO ONE calll him jesus the christ.

So either he is lying or you are

and why a life full of BS, will die defending what they do not want to know, the truth.

siding with the lie, is siding with the loser

god is our everything

you choose to deny 'god' (divided by the lie; left the garden (god))

 

See, you are denying facts. Tell me, why was Jesus Christ sentence to be crucified? Why were the Pharisees so much against Jesus Christ? In fact, was there a man name Jesus of Nazareth crucified because of blasphemy?

I am sure your answers will all be no, there is no Jesus Christ, no one was crucified or if there was it was for secular crimes not religious you will deny everything that historically factual. So far show many any facts that proof you right? None your claims are all base on your unspported personal thoughts and opinions.

Jesus was judge for being different because he claims be the Messiah, the Son of God he refuse to deny those claims infront of the Pharisees and infront of Pontius Pilate.

Yes, and he resurrected something that the Pharisees, Romans and present day scholars couldnot find any answer as to how Jesus resurrected, they have made claims and theories that Jesus crucifixtion and resurrection has to involve a collution with Roman officers including Pilate, remember Pilate's wife was a Jesus Christ sympathizer.

What is accepted will always conflict with the truth, that is why Jesus was crucified and Christians will be persecuted.

Truth

 

Because God created nature not the other way around.

The human body is of nature, the breath of life is from God.

That is why we have to keep on writing and communicating the truth.

I learn how to stand up to nastiness, bullies, liars and evil people.

I chose not to do the things that have been taught be evil and do things that are good, I will stand up to false prophets and scholars that kept on spreading lies and discrediting Jesus Christ.

True, I chose God.

I know satan i sbad because I have seen, learn and most of all God has taught us how to identify satan's followers.

You contradict your self, you said you are not against God but you are against everything God represents about good.

I guess for you I am because I worship God and accept Him, as you can see how inverted your thoughts are.

Being truthful is being humble, being quite is to surrender to lies.

So far you have been pointing them to the wrong direction, was it intentional or truthfil mistake?

Then why are you so much against Jesus Christ then?

Jesus Christ is the Son of God; Matthew 1:21 "She will bear a Son; and you shall call His name Jesus, for He will save His people from their sins."

You know that that is why I worship Jesus Christ and I accept Him, but you and many don't.

What you did was to cheery pick one single sentence and this is very typical of anti Christ they will not want to read the whole Gospel that contain the whole story. And I pointed out to you that Jesus Christ ackonwledge Peter's response recognize Jesus is the Son of God.

Neither I nor Jesus is lying it is you and all those who are against him they will lie and do everything to discredit the truth.

A life of bs because they are against truth and they are against God.

And the truth shall set you free.

Truly, yes.

There you go with your inverted interpretation, remember the same inverted stradegy was employ by Satan against Eve where satan succeeded and against Jesus where Satan failed.

 

I don't understand your hatred and contempt of the LORD and SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST and Christianity.

One day, in the not too distant future, we are ALL going to stand before the KING of kings, and LORD of lords, the ALPHA and the OMEGA, the BEGINNING and the END, and we are ALL going to give an account of our lives to GOD.

EVERY knee will bow, and EVERY tongue will confess that JESUS CHRIST is LORD, to the glory of GOD the FATHER.

We are ALL going to be judged by our Creator.

No matter if you believe it or NOT, this is going to happen.

Poking fun and insulting, though, does NOT do or solve anything.

We are ALL going to be held responsibe and accountable for the things we've done, thought, and said while on earth.