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WATCH LIVE | Impeachment trial of President Trump continues in Senate (Day 2)

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MrTLegal, Jan 22, 2020.

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, Mitch did his job and should be due for a nice bonus this year...
     
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    Egoboy, Jan 22, 2020
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lots of pages of 'imagination' does not hold any weight.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 22, 2020
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another lie by Schiff for brains is that Biden's corruption has been debunked. A new book out called Profiles in Corruption has 85 pages of supporting documents and zero unnamed sources about the Biden's corruption.

    No investigation means no debunking.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 22, 2020
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  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. But Turtle's job is not done yet. The President should be forever acquitted.
     
    Dutch, Jan 22, 2020
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    HA!!!! Schiff actually played Trump sarcastically joking about Russia getting Hillary's emails and thinks he was serious!

    NO WAY! What a damn idiot!
     
    Thirty6BelowZero, Jan 22, 2020
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  6. MrTLegal

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    Those are hundreds of pages of sworn testimony, documents, and legal conclusions from Constitutional Law Experts.

    They are carry a great deal more weight than the naked and indefensible assertion from an anonymous poster at PF.com saying that there is "zero proof."
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 22, 2020
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    Testimony from witnesses that witnessed nothing but had opinions and presumptions is also not much.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 22, 2020
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  8. MrTLegal

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    Donald Trump was not joking. He was asked later, in that same press conference, whether it was dangerous to invite a foreign adversarial government to interfere in our election. His response was, "No, I want those emails."
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 22, 2020
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    And despite their so-called sworn testimony, documents and 'legal conclusions', the President still is not and will not be convicted by the Senate at any point and in our view, he has not committed any offense.
     
    AmericanNationalist, Jan 22, 2020
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    Biden is a gift to the President and the GOP.

    Run ole Joe, run!!!
     
    Dutch, Jan 22, 2020
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    Apparently Schiff for brains thinks unelected bureaucrats run foreign policy.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 22, 2020
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    The DOJ is welcome to investigate any evidence of crimes they have. But I seem to recall money laundering being no big deal when it was Manafort....
     
    The Mello Guy, Jan 22, 2020
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    Answering a question with a question.... Bold

    In this and many instances your case relies on you reading between the lies to make your case....
     
    TurnerAshby, Jan 22, 2020
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    As an initial matter, Zelensky never said, "Trump did not abuse the power of his office and he did not Obstruct Congress" or anything similar.

    But there are very few instances where public statements made by the alleged "victim" are dispositive as to whether a crime took place, especially when those statements are not made under oath. Abuse of Power and Obstruction of Justice are not such examples.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 22, 2020
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    Nah it’s the presidents lawyer and mobbed up Ukrainians who run foreign policy lol
     
    The Mello Guy, Jan 22, 2020
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    Answering a question with a question.... Bold

    In this and many instances your case relies on you reading between the lies to make your case....
     
    TurnerAshby, Jan 22, 2020
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    Askinf you to use common sense. If he’s not denying Russia hacked the dnc, why’s he want the server???
     
    The Mello Guy, Jan 22, 2020
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    Another lie that Trump is repeating Russian propaganda.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 22, 2020
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    Read the OP, please.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 22, 2020
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    That is not a lie. Trump is definitely repeating Russian propaganda on this issue. Schiff even played a clip from Fiona Hill wherein she explicitly said that talking point is a Russian propaganda.
     
    MrTLegal, Jan 22, 2020
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    He is. It’s why he asked about crowdstrike.
     
    The Mello Guy, Jan 22, 2020
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    The thing that's funny about it, is playing Trump's words himself. So now Senators are learning about Hunter Biden's influences in China. Yeah, that might intrigue the lot of them :).
     
    AmericanNationalist, Jan 22, 2020
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    That Biden purposefully didn't step back from running Ukraine in this face of his obvious conflict of interest so that it would cause political discord in our politics. Exactly the stated goals of Russia. Why else wouldn't Bidenstep back from Ukraine interests when his son was on an major and corrupt energy company?
     
    TurnerAshby, Jan 22, 2020
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    Speaking of clips, did you just watch the segue of Trumpy the Clown yelling over the chopper noise and China and Ukraine back to a quiet somber Senate chamber?

    That moment speaks volumes.... Too bad the Senate couldn't see that segue on TV...
     
    Egoboy, Jan 22, 2020
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    They will call anything, Russian propaganda. In fact, that's the modus operandi of the last 3 years. (See: US Senate elections in Florida, Bill Nelson. Also see HIllary's disparging remarks on Tulsi Gabbard.). Russia is the cookie monster that keeps Democrats up at night.
     
    AmericanNationalist, Jan 22, 2020
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