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Yeah...well...to borrow an old saying: it ain't over till the fat lady sings. What's your rush? Let's bring in the relevant witnesses and documentation and find out what really went on.

 

Interestingly, and I never put this together, she was recalled the day before Biden officially announced..

What do you think that means?

 

No...I said I had no objections to a separate Biden investigation, through formal channels - namely our DoJ and FBI. I don't want it done by the President's personal attorney.

 

I think it means Biden announced for political cover. Making it taboo to investigate a political rival.

 

If investigating the Bidens is cause for impeachment, why does investigating the Bidens need to be separate from impeachment?

 

Which Biden and specifically for what and in which country? I've never gotten an answer on any of that from anybody....

Investigations are fine if there is a reasonable belief a crime was committed... I haven't seen that reported anywhere (reputable)

Biden's big mouth running about his prosecutor coup is NOT remotely a crime...

 

She received phone calls telling her to get back to the US a.s.a.p. on April 24 and 25 - exactly the same time as he officially announced.

As I have pointed out, his candidacy was a serious well-known possibility long before the official announcement.

 

LOL... Okey Doke.. so nothing specifically tied to the ambassador... that's where I thought you were heading..

It's not taboo for the FBI to investigate Joe Biden, at any time... Announcing for President wouldn't stop that..

 

It makes it the third rail.

 

Not forgetting that phone records show they spoke for 30 minutes, yet the call memo 'reads' in only 10 mins.

 

That's not why Trump was impeached... It was in all the papers..

 

Dafuq difference does that make? Trump was looking into Biden before he was a political rival. In fact, even today, Biden isn’t running agains trump, he is running against sanders and warren. He isn’t running against trump until after the primaries. And, ahem, that hasn’t happened yet.

 

Because the house knew they couldn’t claim that. But that is the basis of their claim. Trump is getting too close to the cookie jar and the grafters are getting nervous.

 

?? Maybe trump wanted to run against someone other than biden.

 

Talk about a damned if you do, damned if you don't.....Trump is already accused of withholding the aid in order to pressure Zelensky into investigating the Bidens in order to influence our elections and they don't even know it was being withheld. Now Trump NOT mentioning the hold on the aid is suspect also? Jeezums the convoluted web we weave.....

 

After the candidates he went up against in the primaries, I doubt Biden is a serious threat. Just low hanging fruit in exposing corruption. As a conservative, I look at the choices you (a Democrat) have as your candidate. Your choice will be chosen for you by the DNC, and you will vote accordingly. Trump was chosen, and elected against all odds. You don’t have that luxury

 

Wow, those new Faux Newz polls out today show both Joe and Mike trouncing the impeached republican criminal incumbent in the general.

Didn't "Bad for America" hannity tell the rubes that dirty bone spurs would be stronger after impeachment???

 

I think the bolded is nonsense. Carry on.

 

Because impeachment is about Trump's actions. If had probable cause to investigate the Bidens he can explain what those causes were, himself. It's absurd to expect the Bidens - the target of his suspicions - to make his case for him, let alone require them to prove their innocence. They are not on trial, and unless and until someone proves otherwise, are already presumed innocent, by default.

So the question is, why won't he explain himself.

 

I think he's a more serious threat (at least he was) then say pochahantus. I'm not a democrat and don't care too much who, erm, "wins" the nominations.

 

:shrug: You can think whatever you want. Every witness testimony agrees that they didn't know about it until the politico article came out a month after Trumps July 25th call.

 

Because what Biden did or didn't do is not the impeachment charge or relevant to the charges against the President. It might become so. Let's say Barr was brought in to testify on whether or not he spoke with Zelenskiy, as Trump told him to. Barr could explain that there was an official investigation going on and what the probable cause was that justified the investigation. I suppose that would have to be done in closed session to protect the Biden's due process rights. IMO, the President does not have the power to order government investigations without cause. Being paid an outrageous sum of money for sitting on a board is not in itself sufficient reason for an investigation. And, of course, Rudy should present his "evidence," which seems to be limited to a deposition given by the fired Chief Prosecutor, to an Austrian Court, in support of a friend, who is under house arrest in Vienna and awaiting extradition to Chicago for charges under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act.

 

Right.

 

Fair enough. But check this out. The economy is roaring, the stock market is roaring, unemployment is at a historic low. Black unemployment has never been lower, Hispanic unemployment has never been lower, black business starts have never been higher, Hispanic business starts have never been higher. The United States of America is smashing records and her people are raking in more money than they have in the history of man. And the democrats want to stop that. Just stop for a minute and let that sink in.

 

Are you suggesting that Trump was looking into Biden before he started appearing in early polls as a frontrunner among possible presidential candidates back in April 2018?

And, suggesting that Trump wouldn't engage in forward planning?