WATCH: Phoenix Cops Kill Man after Responding to Noise Complaint over Video Game

If you have x-ray vision you should be in the circus (or a superhero group?), otherwise watch the suspect from the cover officer's viewpoint and draw your conclusion.

 

No, it's human nature and 100% right. Soldiers do the same all the time.

 

That extra second is the difference between life and death for his oppo, this isn't TV where the bad guy's first shot always misses,

 

No, the fact the contact officer was about to fire proves the cover officer did the right thing. How exactly would the officer have had time to 'de-escalate' the situation before the suspect shot the contact officer?

God save us from backseat drivers, Monday morning football managers and hindsight hypocrites!

 

Classic delusion is thinking a man who hides a gun behind his back and then brings it up towards an officer doesn't deserve to get shot!

 

Yes, god bless these brave officers who were forced to make a split second life and death decision and to hell with the hindsight hypocrites who feel safe to criticize them having never once put themselves in the same situation.

 

One should use the right to bear arms responsibly, just as they should the right to vote or speech etc. Unfortunately the cost of freedom is that not all will use their rights responsibly. This guy (and my heart goes out to him and his family; one momentary lapse of judgment is not enough to judge one's character) did not. Never answer the door with a gun, unless you are aware of a specific threat to you (violent ex, etc.). It should never be the default.

 

You said, "if someone knocked on my door...I would hold the gun behind me...I wouldn't come walking out openly carrying." I took that to mean that you would answer the door, and be in full view of whoever is at the door and therefore you would have "come walking out openly carrying." I missed the part where you said that you would "crack open the door to see who it was." So when you say that you wouldn't "come walking out openly carrying", you just mean that you wouldn't have come out in full view?

 

Spot on. He had like 2 seconds to decide with zero view. Very unfortunate, but justified shooting.

 

One thing we can all learn from this....You are not required to answer the door or speak to cops. If they have a warrant, that's another thing, if they dont, go the hell away, no matter how loud they knock,

 

One question occurs to me.

Didn't the police try to call the people on the phone? It's possible the sound inside was too loud for the phone to be heard, and that being the case we have one reason they cops were approaching the house with such trepidation.

 

The conclusion I have drawn was the the cover officer was poorly trained and trigger happy and FAILED to do his job properly by demanding that the innocent VICTIM "freeze" and "drop the gun" BEFORE he callously MURDERED him.

 

Now you are just pulling crap out of your nether regions.

Officers are supposed to be TRAINED to DEESCALATE situations BEFORE opening fire.

The cover officer does NOT deserve to be employed in law enforcement because he LACKS the essential training and judgement.

MURDERING someone by shooting them in the BACK is the WORST form of cop behavior and that cop needs to be held accountable otherwise it sets a BAD precedent for other cops to follow.

 

Classic delusion is believing something that is NOT in the video!

 

While I agree with you in justified shooting, I disagree here. I paused it several times and his left hand instinctively goes up, face out open. I don't think he had any intention to attack.

As far as the gun coming around, I got the same impression as someone above. I've smoked marijuana so long that when I'm surprised by someone, especially a cop, my hand automatically tries to hide it without me really thinking about it. I think something similar happened here. He saw the cop and instinctively went to conceal. A second later his thinking brain was like, "Um this gun back here is not a good idea," so he put his other hand up and bent down to put the gun down instead of just dropping it.

 

At the time the cops knocked there was no noise to be heard from the apartment and neither was there any noise after the door was opened.

 

You can't see a naked hand in my video snapshot?

 

You're assuming they knew his number? Or that he even had a land line these days.

 

Not from the cover officer's viewpoint.

 

What are you talking about? What clip did you watch? This was micro-seconds to make the decision, there was no time

 

WHEN? You talk as though they had minutes, they had micro-seconds, the cover officer did exactly the right thing. He didn't murder anyone he shot an armed suspect he thought was about to kill his oppo and his belief was perfectly reasonable in the circumstances,

 

Watch it again, he brings the pistol out from behind his back, around his torso and towards the contact officer. Was he intending to fire or surrender? We'll never know but you cannot take that risk.

 

Lesson learned....No warrant? Dont answer, they can just go away, dont even answer. You are not legally required to.

 

You GAIN time by using VOICE COMMANDS in order to MAINTAIN CONTROL over the situation.

This is BASIC police procedure.

The basic MINIMUM warning is "Drop the gun or I will shoot".

Furthermore if he "made the decision" to shoot the guy in the back then it is MURDER!

 

You must be watching a video that has been sped up because there was plenty of time for the VICTIM to SURRENDER by RAISING his hand and bending SIDEWAYS to put DOWN his gun.

The cover officer could see that is what was happening and then he FREAKED OUT and MURDERED the victim by shooting him in the back!