We are in a truth emergency

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Patricio Da Silva, Jul 12, 2020.

  1. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well your statement above isn't entirely accurate either....he lies quite often as a matter of fact.
    What do you gain by denying that?
     
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    Why would I deny that he lies?
     
  3. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't know why....do you know why?
     
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    I haven't a clue of what you;re getting at.
    What part of my statement isn't entirely accurate?
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The 15th amendment of the Constitution disagrees.
    I stand corrected.
     
  6. TOG 6

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    As you know the 15th amendment does not mandate that the states put their electors up to a popular vote, you, again, choose to be wrong.
     
  7. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A person states..."Whenever Trump talks, lies ensue."
    You reply............."You know your statement, above, is false."

    Can you explain why you say he "knows his statement is false".
    Can you explain how your statement IS accurate?
     
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    Ah. Got you now.
    Simple. He knows that not everything Trump says is a lie.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He didn't say "everything Trump says is a lie".
    Hence your statement isn't entirely accurate either.
     
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    That's the net effect of his statement.
    And he knows it isn't true.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's your perception of his statement.
    But what's the point of labeling someone else's statement false with a false statement of your own?
     
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    That's the reality of his statement.
    And he knows it is not true - just as you do.
     
  13. Curious Always

    Curious Always Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He did, though. "Every time he opens his mouth, he lies."

    Where does that leave wiggle room?
     
  14. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's impossible for every single word that comes out of Trumps mouth to be a lie, even for the self-professed genius that he is.
    We all know that fact. SO if someone says ""Whenever Trump talks, lies ensue."
    Most people would understand that it's impossible for every single word to be a lie.
    That's not what the statement intended.

    On the other hand....there's a pretty good chance that....
    he will tell at least one lie in every speech he makes.
    Do you consider that a false statement also?
     
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    .... and thus, he knew his statement to be false.
    Thank you.
     
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    This country has been White Supremacist since its founding and will remain White Supremacist for the foreseeable future. Even if non-whites increase political representation, politicians are the creatures of the Capitalists who are overwhelmingly White and are the ultimate enforcers of White privilege.

    The only way to overcome systemic racism is to destroy the system and while that may satisfy your desire for revenge it will damage severely the lives of your descendants.

    Is that what you want?
     
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    On the other hand....there's a pretty good chance that....
    he will tell at least one lie in every speech he makes.
    Do you consider that a false statement also?

    Oh... forgot to say you're welcome...sorry
     
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    Because NBC Universal's Chairman Cesar Conde has determined
    dat.He made the draconian decision that the current white workforce
    { now at 74 % } will be " chopped to 50 % ".
    Divided evenly between men and women.
    Pat Buchanan states that " would seem to trample all over the
    spirit if not the letter of the Civil Right;s Act of 1964."
    His book ... - The Death of the West : How Dying and Immigration Invasions
    Imperil our Country and Civilization - { 2002 }.
    No matter what some guy Named Cesar infirmed :
    " {W}e have a unique responsibility to look like and reflect all
    of the people we serve . "
    Unlike the creepy Twilight Zone episode :
    - To Serve Man - { 1962 }.
     
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    whites are a minority if all the other races are lumped together.

    this minority cannot be oppressed if they do divide and conquer, the loyalists verse the invaders.
     
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    I'm wondering why being white with a distinct culture is worse than being Black or Brown and having a distinct culture? Why should I be ashamed of being white?
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you for your honesty
    If what you said was excepted as a problem....maybe an answer would be found.
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    White black or otherwise...nothing to be ashamed of me thinks.
    Maybe it's the stigma that goes along with any given color...No?
    My impression of white people in general is that they are greedy, arrogant, self-righteous, know-it-all, holier-than-thou, bigots who in their own eyes can't possibly be
    or have ever done or said anything even close to being wrong.

    Does that fit you? Not saying that's anything to be ashamed of...
    that's just how I perceive white folks.
     
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    Why yes, I think you nailed it. That's me to a tee. Are you sure you don't know me because you sound like you know me.
     
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    The problem is that Blacks can't seem to thrive in a White society. Asians seem to do OK as do Indians, at least high caste ones. I really can't endorse the solution of dismantling White society just to benefit Blacks
     
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    We are not all progressives!
     

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