We Are Republicans With a Plea: Elect Democrats in 2022

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  1. Shinebox

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    who campaigned on it endlessly? ... your ass must be bigger than Trumps considering how much you can pull out of it ...
     
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    Smells like DES*PER*A*TION......:banana:
     
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    Rather than revealing profound levels of gullibility by allowing an article to sway your vote, come to California and take a preview of Dem control and make your decision based on actual results. If poverty, homelessness, sidewalk feces, toxic beaches, poor road conditions, low performing schools, and high taxes is your ideal society, color in that dot next to the D.
     
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  6. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Repubs have already stacked the courts 6/3 and is not in accordance with where America is ( left of center).
    HR 760 introduced Feb 2021 does just that, so, apparently you are making that up.
    My view is that if a trans succeeds in a 100%, where it's undetectable or close to it, post op, etc., I'll accept it, but I only accept two genders where intersex is an anomaly of nature and an intersex person can choose.
    Insofar as the constitution, republicans, in their support of Trump, have forfeited their right to criticize democrats regarding the constitution, given the extent to which Trump has defecated on it, especially given 'the Big Lie' and 1/6, how he defecated on the concept of separation of powers by using the DOJ as his private weapon, his corruption while in office, abuse of power, criminal acts of obstruction, etc.
    The vast majority of dems are christians, and some are muslims, Buddhists, Daoists, etc. Atheists, the minority, are those who believe in science and reason, and only a tiny minority say religion is bad.
    You could go on, so, please do, and I'll gladly shoot your falsehoods down, or provide more clarity, since you seem to get it wrong.
     
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  7. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's not policies.

    It's Trump's defecating on the constitution, separation of powers, rule of law, tendency towards authoritarian acts.

    Rick Wilson ( A Lincoln repub ) explains it in great detail in his books, 'Running Against The Devil" and 'Everything Trump Touches, Dies".
     
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    Uh huh...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/su...l-expand-supreme-court-9-13-justices-n1264132

    On Thursday, Biden was asked the same thing by reporters in Arizona: "[Voters will] know my opinion on court-packing when the election is over. It's a great question, and I don't blame you for asking it, but you know the moment I answer that question, the headline in every one of your papers will be about that."

    Biden's deputy campaign manager, Kate Bedingfield, told CNN's Jake Tapper on Sunday that the "intention" of the constitutional process is at the heart of the issue.

    "The American people are being denied their opportunity to have a say in who gets this lifetime appointment to the court," she said, referring to Republicans' efforts to confirm Barrett just weeks after Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg died.

    But as Tapper pointed out, Biden's labeling of GOP attempts to advance Barrett's confirmation as "unconstitutional" is false, since there's nothing in the Constitution that prohibits the Senate from moving forward on a president's nomination.


    Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass and then Jerry the Nads said:
    "There can be no justification for what they did. How can Americans look at the Court and expect it to do justice -- to do equal justice -- when it has been so severely politically manipulated?" asked House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler, a bill co-sponsor, adding, "Some people will say we're packing the Court. We're not packing. We're unpacking. Senator McConnell and the Republicans packed it over the last couple of years."

    on introduction of the bill. Yeah, we hear you. You got schooled, and apparently your cure is to be tyrannical. and yes, lots of democrats campaigned LOUDLY about supporting court packing in the 2020 election. Biden clearly wanted this, as the notion from the congressional sponsorship reflects. Just cause Xiden didn't claim support for it during the election, doesn't mean he hasn't and did throw his political clout into getting it done in the congress.

    When you decide you've chosen to actually see the fact, you let us know hon.
     
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    I'm sorry, which courts did republicans add seats to again? Of course you won't acknowledge what court packing actually is, and of course your commentary is disingenuous. It's what we have come to expect.
     
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    So much wrong, so little time. You apparently really don’t care Biden is worse than Trump.
     
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    Don't single out the CNN poll since every other poll gets essentially the same results.

    After Donald Trump’s defeat, there was a measure of hope among Republicans who opposed him that control of the G.O.P. would be up for grabs, and that conservative pragmatists could take back the party. But it’s become obvious that political extremists maintain a viselike grip on the national G.O.P., the state parties and the process for fielding and championing House and Senate candidates in next year’s elections.

    Rational Republicans are losing the G.O.P. civil war. And the only near-term way to battle pro-Trump extremists is for all of us to team up on key races and overarching political goals with our longtime political opponents: the Democratic Party.


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    Hmm... not in the least persuasive. Again, your citation of said polls doesn't at all represent any kind of majority.
     
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    I understand you feel that way, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense... how can Trump(ers) "defecating on the constitution, separation of powers, rule of law, tendency towards authoritarian acts" if there isn't some difference in policy that makes that happen? If there is no difference in actual policy, then why does it even matter? What are the "authoritarian acts" that Trumpers support and 'rational republicans' don't? And please be specific...
     
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    Good thing your not talking about dems.
     
  16. Patricio Da Silva

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    They were the real republicans before Trump.

    So, what, Trump makes them RINOs?

    No, they are the true republicans, The GOP has been hijacked by a demagogue, and you don't even know it.
     
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    the delusion your party pushes is leading to the decline of democracy.
     
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    So your delusions are better than theirs?
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    The constituency of 50 Senate Democrats has 40,000,000 more than the constituents of Senate Republicans. Same with the house, where repubs have gerrymandered all of the districts across america.

    It's not 50/50 in reality, only an unfair system, fair when it was designed, and when it was designed, they couldn't predict 250 years into the future, but it is unfair now.

    The day will come when things will change.
     
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    They are liars. They are not Republicans. Even if you don't care for populism you must as a republican understand Democrats are a disaster.

    If someone ran as a conservative Democrat I wouldn't have any trouble voting for them.
     
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    That's 100% false.

    The disaster is Trump and what he represents.

    A bump in the road doesn't define a presidency, his first year hasn't finished, and his fiscal year began Oct 1st.

    You wouldn't know disaster if it hit you on the face. What do you think 1/6 was? A festival?
     
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    that's 100% your opinion
    Disagree.
    we're not talking about a bump in the road we're talking about multiple chasms. In coupled with the driver suffering from some sort of dementia.
    I would consider a disaster something other than somebody breaking into Nancy pelosi's office and putting their feet on the desk. But then again I'm not that big of a drama queen.
     
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    As long as it's even, it's better. The argument for a larger court is compelling.

    A 6/3 court doesn't reflect American values. with a 5/4 court, one unelected woman/man can decide for 330,000,000 people.

    with 29 on the court distributed, say 15/14, it would take a consensus, and that would be better. With that large of court, there would be several moderates on both sides, and thus any vote could go either way.

    Stacking is much worse, which is what it is now.
     
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    Well then it MUST be true. They talk about it, but haven't done it. The other side just did it.
     

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