Well the Supreme Court allow the Trump Bump Stock ban?

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    so nobody ever commits suicide near a school?


    Trying to connect school shootings to the NRA is a profound misunderstanding of the US entirely.
     
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    It's unconstitutional to ban semi-automatic firearms. That's the only device you need to do it.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    By 'devices' I meant external devices that do what bump stock does.

    How do you make a semi automatic fully automatic without a device or modification to the weapon?

    To my knowledge, it can't be done. So, you tell me.
     
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    it's not an external device it's the fact that the firearmus semi-automatic you can bump fire it with no external device.
    when you bump fire and semi-automatic it's not fully automatic not with a bump stock not with any of your other imaginary devices it is still one trigger pull one round fired.


    We aren't talking about fully automatic that's not what a bump stock or bump firing does. It's bump firing. That's one shot fired per trigger pull
     
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    It's not easy to do, and we shouldn't make it easier with the aid of devices.
     
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    Pulling the trigger is not easy to do? Bump firing is pretty easy. The only thing it would be difficult with is a double action revolver. You don't need a device outside of a fire arm. But a rubber band would make it easy. Should we ban those?
     
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    Russia is the USA’s friends? Our only friends in Europe at that… and you want to lecture me about Europe? Lmao


    Now that the big joke is out of the way tell me about your permits to own firearms again and explain why that equates to a right to bear, because to the mentally sane that sure looks like a privilege rather than a right.

    Our mass shooting problem is a culture problem, not a gun problem. If all guns were banned or we required a permission slip to own like Switzerland I would bet money our murder rate would only go up.
     
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    why?
     
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    I think it's because he doesn't know anything about guns

    It's so much more dangerous to shoot really fast than it is to slow down and aim and shoot I guess.
     
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    Yeah you nailed it. some have seen too many movies and have no understanding of how firearms actually work. I will try to find the post about a demonstration I did with the range where I was on its professional shooting team many years ago, for a news crew
     
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    Here is that post from 6+ years ago

     
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    how do you stop knowledge when I can instantly switch from semi auto t bumpfire without any device?
    you argue from a position of complete ignorance.
     
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    the widespread hatred of the NRA proves that the anti gun movement is based on politics, not a desire for public safety
     
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    Outdated politics
     
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    when you see anti gun advocates constantly carp about the NRA and never about (especially inner city black thugs) criminals, you know crime control is only a facade
     
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    Gun control in general is only a facade. It's never about anything but trying to interfere with gun ownership
     
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    also:1) to allow its proponents to pander to those who WANT SOMETHING DONE-without actually doing something and 2) to actually make things safer for violent criminals while bamboozling the low wattage types that these schemes are crime control
     
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    I'm wondering if it's not on purpose. Ignoring criminal activity.

    The only thing that gives me pause on that is I didn't think the government is smart enough to pull that off.
     
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    probably true but some anti gun advocates are constantly scheming to do so
     
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    True and they have the ears of politicians.
     
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    The majority of them are useful idiots.
     
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    some politicians, however the trend among state legislatures is toward constitutional carry… 29 states at the moment. So, dreams of an Amendment that enacts gun restrictive gun control at the Federal level won’t get past the current preference being demonstrated by state legislatures.
     
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    some politicians, however the trend among stars is toward constitutional, permitless carry. 29 states now.
     
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    Its not full auto, but the fire rate is generally the same.

    Same with a bump stock: Its NOT full auto. Its just semi auto, done fast.
     
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    All you need for a functional machinegun is a ****ing tube and a trigger group dude.

    https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/2459593
     

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