What are your views on abortion?

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by Daggdag, Oct 19, 2020.

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Which best describes your view on abortion

  1. A woman has the right to choose to get an abortion with no limitations.

    41 vote(s)
    47.7%
  2. Abortion should be illegal after the first trimester

    16 vote(s)
    18.6%
  3. Abortion should be illegal except to preserve the health and life of the mother.

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    27.9%
  4. Abortion should be illegal in all circumstances.

    5 vote(s)
    5.8%
  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, so then why does abortion have to do with bodily autonomy?
     
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    Wow, I didn't expect you to end with that question after using that scenario! You seemed to be making the compassion argument for abortion, so I would've expected a question like, isn't it wrong to refuse to allow them to have an abortion, because it will impact their lives so much? Or an even closer match to your question would be, are you telling me that a ban on abortion would not limit their freedom to live their life as planned? In which case, the answer is NO, it would ABSOLUTELY limit their freedom to live their life as planned! Having an abortion would obviously make their life easier by giving them more freedom to live their life as planned, but so would killing their BORN child, if they decide to have the kid and later decide that it's too difficult.

    In answer to your actual question - no, it would not limit the woman's bodily autonomy,
    but I've already made that clear in previous posts, and so far nobody has been able to come up with an argument for why it WOULD.
     
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    What are the sides and how do they require force?
     
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    Totally unregulated? No safety regulations for construction companies?
     
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    Sex is first and foremost for pleasure.
     
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    No, no, no. Why are you speaking of yourself in third person? I asked you to imagine you are that woman.
     
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    Pre-contraceptives?
     
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    Alright, fine. Here it is amendmended:

    Wow, I didn't expect you to end with that question after using that scenario! You seemed to be making the compassion argument for abortion, so I would've expected a question like, isn't it wrong to refuse to allow them to have an abortion, because it will impact their lives so much? Or an even closer match to your question would be, try to for a moment imagine you are a young woman, you have just found the job of your dreams and you are very excited to start your new career and your new life with the love of your life you just moved in with. Life is going great and one day, boom -- You are pregnant. Neither you nor your boyfriend are ready for this yet. Not financially, not mentally and you just don't want children right now. Are you telling me that a ban on abortion would not limit your freedom to live your life as planned? In which case, the answer is NO, it would ABSOLUTELY limit my freedom to live my life as planned! Having an abortion would obviously make my life easier by giving them more freedom to live their life as planned, but so would killing their BORN child, if they decide to have the kid and later decide that it's too difficult.
     
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    Because clearly you agree that abortion isn't legal in all circumstances.
     
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    Gee, you're easily pleased aren't you!
     
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    What does a woman’s right to “bodily autonomy” have to do with the right to terminate a pregnancy?

    That’s a rhetorical question...
     
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    I see someone else got hit with the imaginary “paradox” argument. ;)
     
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    Abortion doctors would loose their job has got to be the WORST argument in favour of abortion that I've heard, and I've heard some BAD ones!
     
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    So still no answer to the question: why does abortion have to do with bodily autonomy?
     
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    Would she be performing the abortion on her own body? If so, then this is absolutely removing her right to her own body! Just like if the law prevented her from piercing her own body.
     
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    Asked and answered throughout this discussion. We’re done here.
     
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    Thank you. That is all I wanted to hear.
     
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    Yes, but religion messed up people's mindset and had them afraid of enjoying sex.
     
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    Of course you're done, because you have no answer! :roflol:
     
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    Why the hell did you want to hear that? Do you think that you made some sort of point?
     
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    Except pre-contraceptives, 9 times out of 10 it resulted in pregnancy.
     
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    You got your answer. You chose to ignore it because it didn’t suit your narrative.

    White flag accepted.
     
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    I did, thanks for answering.

    Is that figuratively or literally speaking? Do you have any kind of issues with contraceptives?
     
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    Literally. Are you saying it's not true?

    No.
     
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    OMGAWD DUHHHHHHHHHHHHH....IF you had been following the thread ( I can't believe this has to be explained) you would know that "God" was mentioned many , many times.....

    just OMG...
     
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