What can Trump run on now that the economy is shot?

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    True but it is his responsibility that he took so long to act and even longer to act aggressively.
     
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    Trumps Virus is no ones fault.

    Trumps failure to respond when the Virus appeared in early January is his fault that and is causing death among Americans that is worse than it had to be
     
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    I suspect that had he had never uttered a single word, fewer Americans would have gotten sick. If he had demurred on any questions of public health that he was not willing to learn about prior, the country would be in better shape. 35 years ago, It was seen as reprehensible that Reagan did not publicly recognize AIDS even existed or that people were dying from it for year after year after year. Now that seems like an improvement.

    Trump is finally down to 1/3 truth - 2/3 lies or gross exaggeration in his public statements and we are supposed to be impressed. .
     
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    Baloney. This Chinese Covid 19 started in another country. Trump DID act by banning travel from that country. Meanwhile Congress was too busy with the silly impeachment nonsense to do anything.
     
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    What are you talking about he shut down travel with China in January, and declared a national medical emergency as well.

    Biden called it racist and the left said he was overreacting.
     
  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Most obviously? The RNC and the businessmen who back the RNC.
    Answer me one question, why aren't we like South Korea, which has shown the world how this virus can and should be handled? And let me answer it for you since like most Trumpers you treat questions like a 90-year-old treats a college bar in Orlando. It's because your Worshipful bad orange man decided that being aware of possible pandemics was something which we could do without seeing as we so desperately needed a useless monument to bigotry and a great gift for all his contractor friends on our Southern border so very much more. After all, being overrun by tearful children and people speaking Spanish is so much worse than drowning in our own bodily fluids.
     
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    Load of crap. We as a country didn't become aware of this crap until January. There is nothing Obama put in place that could have foreseen this or stopped it and much of what Obama did do was counter productive to dealing with a contagion that is the polar opposite of dealing with SARS and Ebola in most respects.
    As for why we aren't like South Korea? Surely you jest.
     
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  8. Daniel Light

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    If Trump had bothered to read his intelligence briefings, he would have known far earlier. Instead he took the Chinese media at face value. He was a Chinese tool.
     
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    If your assertion is that Bernie is an irrational choice, you will not get an argument from me. For that matter, I am equal parts thrilled and shocked at the cast of clowns that were running for the Democrat nomination. I would also agree that out of that cast of clowns, Biden is surely your best choice, but that isnt saying much. He is an increasingly frail old man who clearly is not nearly as sharp as he once was. In that sense, he is a typical 78 year old man. It is sincerely shocking that he is the best that Democrats could provide as far as their nominee. I realize that you will have no choice but to support him fully, but deep down, even hardcore Democrats know that he is a seriously flawed presidential candidate. The best that you can do is keep him hidden as much as possible and you hope that you can make this election a referendum on Trump and not about Biden at all. The Coronavirus is actually very helpful to Democrats chances for a lot of reasons, and one of those is that Biden can likely coast into the convention while avoiding having rallies where he reveals his growing senility, while simultaneously stopping Trump rallies which are a gigantic strength for him.

    At some point however, he is going to have to once again hit the campaign trail and he will also have to have one on one debates with Trump. Those are things that do not bode well for him. On the bright side for Democrats however, the Covid Virus creates a lot of uncertainty, and if that goes extremely bad for Trumps approval, it wouldn't matter whom was your nominee, so there is always that going for your electoral chances.
     
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    Wrong. Our intelligence services didn't catch on to the fact that China was lying about their start date until mid January.
     
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  11. Daniel Light

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    We'll have to wait until the House investigation in several months for the final word, but the CIA has numerous operatives in Wuhan, they knew.
     
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    The CIA that's been trying to put a knife in Trump's ribs for three years now?
     
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    I love Trumper "logic". Trump canceled the branch that was to do something about Pandemics, therefore nothing could have been done. The entirety of 21st century medicine is confounded and stands in awe of the Puissant Painted Pandemic Pundit
    The Pandemic Awareness office was to keep us AWARE OF PANDEMICS, (imagine that) any and all pandemics, pandemics which most experts have been saying are coming for DECADES now, but again, Republicans don't think they're of any real concern while we're being "invaded" by people who are statistically safer than most of your Trump voters
     
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    Simple answer:

    Because the United States IS NOT LIKE South Korea.

    1) The U.S. is several times larger than South Korea population wise.
    2) The U.S. is several times larger than South Korea land area wise which means a far more dispersed population in a wider variety of geographic areas. The population of South Korea is pretty much concentrated in one or two major urban areas.
    3) South Korea is pretty much racially homogenous. The U.S. is diverse with an immensely wider range of cultural and community norms than South Korea.
     
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    I love Trump hate logic. A bill that was never passed means that budget increases for CDC over the last three years didn't happen and a disease that is unprecedented in human history could have been predicted before it ever happened. Such illogical claptrap is why we are in this situation.
     
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    Positively Wrong.Our Vaunted CDC knew about this breaking Virus
    in late November.
    A little after China started to suppress it's magnitude.
    Our CDC is actually partly to blame.
    You have never been informed of that.Like most Stuff these
    Pathetic MSM in League with the Democrat Party conjour.
    How all mighty Great this CDC ... until we learn't udderwise.
    Obama's CDC sucked.
     
  17. Daniel Light

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    Unprecedented in human history? You really want to go with that? The Black Plague? Polio? Measles? SARS? Medical professionals and authors have been predicting a world-wide epidemic for centuries. We had the big ZIKA scare just a few years ago. We have pandemic scares at least every 10 years.
     
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    Yesiree Bob.You nailed it w/o using a single nail.
    Just a hammer.
    Where is Peter,Paul & Mary when duty calls.
    - If I had a Hammer -.
     
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    " never let a crisis go to waste " -- Rahm Emanuel
     
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    epidemic scares every ten years (because every 10-15 years influenza undergoes a genetic shift that makes humans more vulnerable to it).

    pandemics are much rarer. And I have doubts if the CONVID-19 outbreak really constitutes a "pandemic".
     
  21. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And South Korea has institutions in place to deal with Pandemics, which have been a predicted fact of life for all countries in the world for decades now. We have Donald Trump, who thinks that we don't need to spend money on things like readiness and research since we can just hire doctors when we need them, like truck mechanics. Besides, we need another cadre of Aircraft Carriers to fight hill bandits in the Iranian desert much more than we need to keep our populace safe from deadly diseases
     
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    350,000 known cases. And with the lack of testing in most of the world and it's varied symptoms ... I think it probably has reached the pandemic phase by now since the numbers are still rising in many parts of the world.
     
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    The U.S. does need to be prepared for the next major war. You know another war is coming eventually.
     
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    A Lie.Trump acted quicker and faster than any other Country's
    leader.Whereas we have definitive Proof as to how long it took
    Obama to get off his duff and address the April 2010 BP Oil Spill Crisis.
    That is closing in on a 10 year anniversary.
    As to How NOT to address a Crisis.
     
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    War is merely a word.
    As in War on Drugs.
    Like a Drug knows from war or Famine or plague.
     

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