What Happens When We Stop Believing in God

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  1. Polydectes

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    Did I touch a nerve?
     
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    I know some priests say that, but they have a wrong understanding of Christianity. Christianity means primarily salvation. You should love God as a savior, not hate him as a punisher. :)
     
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    Take away religion from society and you'll see some real terrorization.
     
  4. Kokomojojo

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    and what party in politics is not?
    huh? How so? Atheists have faith agnostics have none. citation ?
    Not enough to prevent him from slaughterin thousands of xtians
    hitler created a trade union.
    the war had everything to do with lets say the results of religion.
    He accepted the red cross, and sued the allies for peace 9 times and they simply flipped him off, possibly the most loved dictator even by the brits of all time.
    No they exemplified it, they wanted to prevent the further corruption of their xtian communities caused by the jews in addition to the screwing they got from the kews at versailles.
     
  5. Kokomojojo

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    I was not trying to post a statistically 'exact' number, hence the boundaries.
    29,000 churches down to 500 across all of russia is NOT failing to take control, those are some seriously wacked out priorities
    Yeh he just did that in my thread as well, funny as hell.
    yes! unconscious equivocation then blames everyone else when they try to bounce back and forth just to converse with him.
    Yeh burn the whole dictionary, that the solution, why not learn english instead?
    Yes koko asked you to put koko on ignore so koko doesnt have to deal with the volumes of crazy **** you post. nonstop. Still you are addicted to me LOL
     
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    It didnt.
    How strange! same as my experience trying to debate with honest 'good faith unequivocal conversation' bird.
    Yeh your accusation against me didnt make sense, however as far as the bird is concerned you nailed it.
    thats why I asked the bird to put me on iggy, but he is obsessed with me anyway!
    Now he accuses you of not engaging in good faith conversation, LMAO.
    It never occurred to him to look in the mirror!
    same good faith conversation he has with anyone who pins him down, but the yardmeat is king of the hill when it comes to 'good faith conversation'. Fill me in on where you think I played 2 sides of a fence.
     
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    and you have not yet figured out that different definitions require different usages, that is called 'context' something you and a couple others failed in.
    depends on what context, you get it wrong every time, same as yardmeat.
    DUH! Gnostic is defined by their religion just like xtian is defined by their religion. again you lack basic grammar and connective skills.
    It was clear to me. again demonstrating your lack of grammar skills.
    No, some people understand what you are really saying.
    remember you owe me an explanation where that is coming from, since I do that sometimes to prove a point. :cool:
    No its not. Since that destroys it intended usage, our wonderful friends at oxford made sure to try and **** up its intended meaning.
    words have meaning wil, neoatheists thing agnostic is the same as atheist, the bird thinks that you can be atheist and believe in the Holy Ghost, and spirits, I mean talk about the land nutterville Oz! If its up to some of these guys a quark wold be a pickup truck by the time they are done.
     
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    Hardly, did I?
     
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    Hardly, did I?
     
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    Ahhh you are the one who made the fallacious claim your statement was a self evident fact which of course it is not.
     
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    Don't think I said quite that .. but would not matter I did claim "Self Evident Fact" .. you Running around crying "Fallacy" does not show it was is not self evident fact ?

    Your post is a nonsensical fallacy .. of the assumed premise variety .. substantiated with projection .. of your fallacious gibberish onto others.

    Step 1 - go figure out what an argument is 2) then figure out what a fallacy is 3) then do 1 and stop doing 2 :)
     
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    See Below

     
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    not so
    that is not playing 2 sides at once, that was informing you of the limitations ir depth I am willing to discuss it which was limited to the statement made.

    Both sides is if I contradicted myself and argued both sides of the contradiction as true, which I did not, which on the other hand is SOP for the bird
     
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    So you don't know the meaning of prima facie. As in Bill Clinton's entry into a federal court of a false affidavit was prima facie evidence of perjury and obstruction of justice which I point out to you recently.

    It is not self-evident nor prima facie, it is pure coniectura et suppositione on your part.
     
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    and if you read what proceeded and what followed indeed you did try to play both sides of fence.
     
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    What is this raging gibberish .. accusing me of things I did not say .. didn't say Clinton's false affidavid was prima facie nor self evident.

    Please leave me out of your loopy dee do fantasy conversations with yourself .. that you are desperate to attribute to me. Troll-o-Rama - strawman fallacy shake on steroids.

    Step 1) Learn what an argument is
    Step 2) Learn what a fallacy is
    Step 3) start doing 1 and stop doing 2 ..
     
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    I know I pointed it out TO YOU.

    YOU were the one who started the trolling with your snarky comment about the Latin phrase not me. I just pointed out that it was I who had previously pointed it out to you and that seems to be a burr under your saddle now.

    Here from four years ago when you claimed the charges against Clinton were a witchhunt when in fact they were based on prima facie evidence of perjury and obstruction of justice, subornation of perjury and witness tampering in that federal court.

    "He sexually assault and harassed Paula Jones who was suing him in a federal court when Starr was handed prima facie evidence that he had committed perjury, obstruction of justice, subornation of perjury and witness tampering in that federal court. Paula Jones was not willing. Neither was Juanita Broaddrick. Neither was Kathleen Whiley. Neither were a host of women."

    You should heed that advice instead of trying to project your posting on others.
     
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    The above gibberish has nothing to do with the difference between Atheist and Agnostic .. why you wandered down the fantasyland rabbit hole that you did .. I do not know .. Triggered by the Latin Phrase "Prima Facie" ? Who knows.

    Now go find an argument and do stop having these fictitious fantasy conversations with yourself .. as if the material is relevant to something I was discussing - was part of the discussion.

    Wasn't me friend .. perhaps confusing my posts with those of others .. no idea where these voices you are having this discussion with come from.
     
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    sorry cant imagine what you are talking about, feel free to make your case
     
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    You just did :)
     
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    It had to do with your smarmy remark about the Latin phrase prima facie. You should be more careful when doing so else your post can look foolish.

    It was YOUR attempt at snarky for lack of an argument. I understand why you wish it would go say.
     
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    Clearly I did.
     
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    Go Troll somewhere else - enough of these made up playground accusations from the peanut gallery .. Get .. Git .. Gone :)
     
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    Thats a stretch, lol
    Its ok if you dont want to make a case, but then you shouldnt be making claims you cant back up. If anyone has a crystal ball to read his mind do tell wtf he is talking about otherwise I am writing it off as nonsense.
     
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    You were the one run from the playground mate .. and I already backed up this claim - so why you accusing me of "nonsense" .. when you who can't figure up from down.
     

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