What if Germany and Japan were victorious in WWll ?

What a load of (*)(*)(*)(*)ing (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Hitler invades Poland from the west. Stalin decides to invade Poland from the east.

France and the English tell Hitler you can't invade Poland and declare's war on Germany.

Germany kicks the frogs butts and the Tommy's flee France.

Hitler again looks towards the east and attacks his ally/enemy, Comrade Joseph Stalin.

 

Yeah, none of that is hidden from history.

 

I don't know about down under but in America when they started teaching revisionist history in our schools, Stalin is given a complete pass by the political left and liberal teachers and it's not mentioned that Soviet Russia attacked and invaded Poland on Sept. 17th 1939.

In fact Stalin "japped out" on Poland and attacked Poland with no formal declaration of war.

Why did the Japanese get stuck with the term "japped" when it should be Stalin and Soviet Russia ?

http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/japped

 

The powers at be always needed propaganda to convince Americans of the need for foreign engagements. The 3000km moat around her shores is a massive, almost impenetrable advantage in the case of invasion. They lied their way into WWI, they manipulated their way into WWII, and now they've manipulated their way into a position of global hegemony.

The framers were rightly suspicious of a standing army. The people within the several states were suspicious of a standing army. The constitution was only ratified because the objections against the abuses of a standing army were silenced by Wilson among others. If they could have seen the state of the military today you would without question still be in possession of your most beautiful confederation.

 

The problem with the issue about a standing army became meaningless as technology improved.

At the time the Constitution was written, it took an average of 55 days (and as long as 120 days) to go each direction from Europe to the Americas. This is a long time, and land travel was not much better. So even if say England decided to attack us there would be ample time for the militia to ready itself and counterattack before any significant gains were made.

By the time of the Civil War, advances in sail and ship technology as well as navigation had reduced that time down to 10 to 14 days. This is also the time our standing army started to increase. It was realized that less and less time was available to set up defenses so a larger army was needed.

By the end of World War II, aircraft could make that crossing in less then a day, and ships could do it in 4 days. So it was very possible that an invasion force could land in strength with no warning at all. And this is not just fantasy, we did it ourselves many times in World War II (as well as the Korean War).

Look at the Battles of Normandy, Okinawa and Inchon, and then imagine these multi-Division forces landing on our own country (with the air cover that would have moved with it) and then try to explain how a large standing army is not needed.

 

A Massive standing Army without Force Projection capabilities is only good for protecting one's home turf or invading by land another Naton.

The U.S. having a Navy that is impossibly powerful and surrounded by Oceans....as Canada is part of a North American Integrated Military Force......and no one is ever going to get within 3000 miles before their invasion force is blown out of the water.

China has very real plans to take Taiwan.....not anymore as our Sub force alone would obliterate any Troop Carriers never mind our Surface Carrier Groups and Air Force.

Russia is taking a huge chance allowing China access to Eastern Siberia although the vast majority of Oil and Natural Gas is in Western Siberia.

AboveAlpha

 

Our navy said the same thing before WWII, how well did that work out?

 

Not well back then because we Harbored most of that fleet at Pearl but fortunately we had the Carriers go to sea.

This could never happen again of course.

I can't think of any viable method currently any other Nation could attack our Military Forces in Mass.

AboveAlpha

 

Actually, most of that fleet was at sea. This will give you an idea the ships that were actually in the fleet:

http://www.fleetorganization.com/1941pacificfleet.html

And we had what, 6 ships sunk? And 2 of the 6 were later returned to service. We took a blow to our capitol ships (at that time the Battleship), but the actual damage inflicted as history has shown us was nowhere near as significant as was thought at the time. And of the 4 ships taken out of service permanently, their replacements were already under construction in the Iowa class ships.

And we did not have "the carriers go to sea". 1 was undergoing sea trials after a major refit, the other 2 were actually at sea running equipment to the Philippines and Midway. On 7 December both of them were suddenly behind enemy lines, with what is now greatly reduced aircraft capabilities and not enough ships to adequately protect them if discovered.

And I am sorry if you can not think of a way for our forces to be attacked, I can think of several.

An attack at San Diego and Bremmerton would do significant damage to our Naval capabilities. Not only in damage to the ships there, but in taking out the repair facilities (which are really the only 2 left on the West Coast). Long Beach, Alameda, Mare Island, they are all gone.

Hit Travis AFB, and you have removed the only Air Force installation in Central-Northern California.

I am sorry if you do not have the imagination that I do, I can easily think of 3 places to attack which would cripple US Defenses on the West Coast, and leave them largely wide open to be corn holed. Add in Edwards AFB, and now that is 4 which leaves all of California open to attack (as well as Washington and Oregon). The closest help would have to come from Idaho and Arizona after that.

 

Exactly what and how would they hit us?

If you are suggesting an Enemy Sub Missile Attack.....we track those so close it is rediculuous.

AboveAlpha

 

Blow up the Coronado Bridge, most of the Pacific fleet is trapped in San Diego Bay.

Back in 1970 or 71 there was talk of closing the Long Beach Naval Base (not to be confused with the Long Beach Naval Ship Yard) The 100 or so ships that were home ported at Long Beach at the time were going to be moved to San Diego.
It was pointed out, "Remembr Pearl Harbor" you don't put so many of the navy's ships in one place.

Sorry for using Wiki.

I highlighted and underlined "empty" because San Diego Bay is very shallow. That's why today's Nimitz class aircraft carriers can not go no further up the bay than North Island NAS. Battleships were always to heavy, drew to much draft to be based at San Diego. Battleships were always home ported at Long Beach, Mare Island or Bremmerton , usually Long Beach because the Long Beach Naval Shipyard was adjacent to the naval base and that NSY could handle any job except for refueling a nuclear ship. Other wise it was able to do it all and was the only naval ship yard in the entire Navy that actually made a profit.

 

I have largely given up on this, because most people really do not understand why Pearl Harbor was struck in the first place, and what the strategic goals of Japan were in late 1941.

People all to often think that the goal of Pearl Harbor was to "Cripple the US" and to "Destroy our fleet". That is really not true, it was to cause us to pull back so they could achieve their own tactical and strategic goals.

And Hawaii had nothing to do with that, nor did the US. If Hawaii was strategically important, Japan would have followed the attack with an amphibious landing (even if on a large raid level, even if not intendind to occupy the islands).

No, what Japan wanted was the US Territory of the Philippine Islands, as well as other important strategic islands, like Wake, Midway, and Samoa among others.

And even that was not their real goal. Japan badly needed raw materials like oil and rubber, and that was available in the Dutch East Indies and in various British territories in the region. That is what Japan wanted, that is what they were after. Most people forget that Japan declared war on not just the US in December 1941, it also did so on the UK.

The only problem was that to attack the UK territories, they would have left the Philippines (a US protectorate) sitting right astride their supply lines. And the US was in the early stages of a massive defensive build-up on the Philippines in late 1941 (4th Marines was pulled from China to there, and AAC and other forces were starting to flood into the Philippines). So if they had gone after the UK and not attacked PI, they then risked having the US join at a later date, much better prepared and with the ability to completely sever their logistical chain.

So for the amateurs and Armchair Generals, this is what real strategic planning is all about. Not just moving pieces around on a board, but understanding what first put those pieces in motion to begin with.

There is a reason I am responding out of order, now try to follow me here.

You are making a huge mistake in assuming any attack will not only be directly against the US, but intended against the US all along as it's goal. That is your biggest mistake. You are not thinking strategically.

Here, let me spin a little scenario. You may catch the substitutions, you may not. But try to follow the logic behind them, and not the actual names and places implied.

Let's say that the Republic of Myopia decides that it is critical to it that it controlls the Myopian Ocean. Not only does it share a name, and was traditionally part of it's territory 5,000 years ago, it feels that it is it's territory by right.

The only problem here is that at least parts of this piece of water is also claimed by 5 other countries, 2 of which are close allies of the US. And because of treaties, attacking either of these nations would be considered an attack upon the US.

So to distract the American public, you stage an attack. A missile strike from submarines upon Whidbey Island, a biological attack upon East Coast cities (only a short-sighted fool would think an attack might only be with high explosives), the attacks are almost endless. But in the end, Myopia implies that even more might happen unless the US recognized that it's right to possess the Myopian Ocean is it's by right, and that it's Colonialistic Imperialism is what brought the attack upon itself, not the simple fact that they are trying to make a land grab.

The scenario I just set into play is actually remarkable similar to the start of WWII. The problem here is that Japan totally missed what the resulting surge of Patrioism and Nationalism would do to the people of the US. And as we have seen in the last decade and a half, such sentiments can be very short lived.

So such an attack has happened, now what? Do the "Blame the US" types take charge and try to castigate us into believing it was all our fault, and that we should ignore whatever Myopia has done as our punishment for interfearing with what they think is their own business? Or do we go super Gung-ho, and declare war against Myopia and vow to do all we can until they are destroyed?

From here on out, it is open to much congecture. But hopefully this little explanation and example of possible causes might explain that it is not as foolish as you seem to imply it is.

 

Defense and the Far East

THE PEOPLE HAVE LITTLE IDEA OF WHAT MODERN WAR MEANS

By FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT, President of the United States

Delivered to the Members of the Volunteer Participation Committee, at Washington, D. C., July 24, 1941

Vital Speeches of the Day , Vol. VII, pp. 649-650.

YOU have a lot of work to do. I haven't prepared any speech, but I do feel very strongly that we must bring home certain things to every part of the country, and that it has got to be done through civilian work. It has got to be done by civilians among civilians. Other things are pretty well organized—production—and the training program, but what we need is to get the people as a whole to realize certain facts.

The Mayor's (Mr. LaGuardia's) work is really in two parts. The first is what I call quasi-military—a thing like preparing sandbags; and they may be necessary in certain parts of the country, not necessarily all over. Air-raid alarms, and so forth and so on. That is only part of it that can be done largely through the constituted authorities in the State governments; but beyond that it is your work, which is at least equally important—more important.

People in this country unfortunately haven't got enough idea of what modern war means. And it isn't anybody's fault over here that modern war means something entirely different from what it used to be. It is a war between populations, and not alone between armies. That, I think, is something that those in the average home in this country have not yet got through their heads.

Says We Have a Long Way to Go

We know what is happening in England today. We know the fact that women in London, mothers of families, are just as important in the defense of Britain as men on a destroyer. They are all part of this defense. And I think that we have a long, long way to go in this country.

We are going to get, through you, an organization in every community. We can't do it all from Washington. The responsibility, I think, is yours by units—by corps areas.

I am going to hold you responsible in these corps areas for what goes on, and I am not going to be put off by people who say, "Well, we couldn't find out about this from Washington," or "We don't know who has the jurisdiction."

I don't care who has the ultimate jurisdiction. You have. In other words, if you have some problem of organization and you can't find out whether it is being handled by this, that or the other agency within a State, or a corps area or a community, I am not going to take that as an excuse. Go ahead and do the thing that you want to do, first; and talk about jurisdiction afterward.

Looking for Real Results

I am looking for real results. You may have some question about your relationship to State councils of defense, and local councils of defense. I am looking for results. Ithink they will work with you in almost every part of the country. I don't think you are going to have any real trouble, any more than you are going to have sporadic cases of what might be called political trouble.

I don't know, but I have an idea that there are just about as many Republicans in this group as there are Democrats. Frankly, I don't care, except for the fact that this has been a good illustration that this work is non-political. You have labor here. You have capital. You have Negroes here. You have white people. You have got every cross-section of American life represented on this committee.

About this question of politics. Somebody may start it. Don't bring it to me. You are Americans. You don't belong to any party in this work.

I don't know that there is anything else I want to say, except that, quite frankly, I am looking for results from all of you. We will do the best we can. It is going to take a little while to get all the machinery working smoothly. I am inclined to think that you don't want to make mountains out of molehills.

Information a Major Task

What we want is to get this thing into every family in the United States. And, incidentally, there are a great many people who don't even belong to families, who are off by themselves—individuals. We want you to go after those people and explain the real necessity, and seriousness of this world situation.

There are lots of things that people don't quite understand. You are an information bureau to all of them. And I will give you the example.

Here on the East Coast you have been reading that the Secretary of the Interior, as Oil Administrator, is faced with the problem of not enough gasoline to go around in the East Coast and how he is asking everybody to curtail their consumption of gasoline. All right.

Now, I am—I might be called an American citizen, living in Hyde Park, N. Y. And I say, "That's a funny thing; why am I asked to curtail my consumption of gasoline when I read in the papers that thousands of tons of gasoline are going out from Los Angeles—West Coast—to Japan; and we are helping Japan in what looks like an act of aggression?"

All right. Now the answer is a very simple one. There is a world war going on and has been for some time—nearly two years. One of our efforts, from the very beginning, was to prevent the spread of that world war in certain areas where it hadn't started.

One of those areas is a place called the Pacific Ocean—one of the largest areas of the earth. There happened to be a place in the South Pacific where we had to get a lot of things—rubber, tin, and so forth and so on, down in theDutch Indies, the Straits Settlements and Indo-China. And we had to help get the Australian surplus of meat and wheat, and corn, for England.

It was very essential from our own selfish point of view of defense to prevent a war from starting in the South Pacific. So our foreign policy was—trying to stop a war from breaking out down there.

At the same time, from the point of view of even France at that time—of course, France still had her head above water—we wanted to keep that line of supplies from Australia and New Zealand going to the Near East—all their troops, all their supplies that they have maintained in Syria, North Africa and Palestine. So it was essential for Great Britain that we try to keep the peace down there in the South Pacific.

Oil for Japan or War in Pacific

All right, and now here is a nation called Japan. Whether they had at that time aggressive purposes to enlarge their empire southward, they didn't have any oil of their own up in the north. Now, if we cut the oil off, they probably would

have gone down to the Dutch East Indies a year ago, and you would have had war.

Therefore, there was—you might call—a method in letting this oil go to Japan, with the hope—and it has worked for two years—of keeping war out of the South Pacific for our own good, for the good of the defense of Great Britain and the freedom of the seas.

You people can help to enlighten the average citizen who wouldn't hear of that, or doesn't read the papers carefully, or listen to the radio carefully—to understand what some of these apparent anomalies mean. So, on the information end, I think you have got just as great a task as you have in the actual organization work.

Now on this organization—to come back to that for a minute—it is amazing the number of letters I get here in the White House—and my wife in the White Houses—from men and women in literally every county in the United States who are pleading to be told what they can do to help. They honestly are ready to work.

So my message to you is: Act as starters of this "horse race.
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A Warning on Isolation

AMERICA CANNOT REMOVE ITSELF FROM THE WORLD

By WENDELL L. WILLKIE, Republican Candidate for President in 1940

Delivered January 8, 1941 before the Women's National Republican Club, Hotel Astor, New York

Vital Speeches of the Day, Vol. VII, pp. 249-250

MRS. HAYS, members of the Women's National Republican Club, I am delighted to be here, not alone as the last candidate on the Republican ticket for President of the United States, but also to thank each one of you personally for what you did in that crusade which we conducted just before Nov. 5. There is considerable solace in defeat. Not long ago I was reading the autobiography of Henry Watterson, that sparkling editor of The Louisville Courier-Journal. His father was a Congressman prior to the Civil War, and Henry spent much of his time in Washington with his father and was a great friend of many notables, among whom his greatest friend was Stephen Arnold Douglas who, as you know, was an outstanding leader in American public life.

The boys were sitting around the table one night, perhaps imbibing more than they should, and one of them said, "What do you think has happened—Steve Douglas wants to be President of the United States." Another spoke up, "Well, if Steve Douglas wants to be President we will have to go out and work for him. But I don't for the life of me know why he wants to be President at 44 years of age and have to be good for the rest of his life."

The American people relieved me of the necessity of being good for the balance of my life.

Concerned About His Party

I am greatly concerned about the Republican party— because in my judgment it is the only political organization in the United States today that can possibly ultimately bring back to the American people those principles that made this government great. It is the only political organization in the United States that can possibly restore to this country the system of free enterprise and individual liberty which transposed this country from a wilderness to the greatest industrial nation with a higher standard of living than that of any other country in the world and which offers over a period of years, when the rewards of this system are more widely diffused among the people, the ultimate hope of mankind for liberty and well-being.

And my concern about the Republican party and its place in this country is such that instead of speaking mere pleasantries to you I decided to speak to you very frankly of what I believe should be the Republican party's position in this most critical moment in the long and magnificent history of liberty. I do not presume to speak for all in the party; I speak as Wendell Willkie to you fellow-Republicans saying what is in my heart and what I think will ultimately bring the Republican party to full power in the American system of government.

Whether we like it or not America cannot remove itself from the world. Every development in the art of transportation, every development in the art of communication has reduced the size of the world so that the world today actually is no larger than the thirteen original colonies were when we established our system of liberty in the United States. And much as we would like to withdraw within ourselves and much as we would like to disregard the rest of the world—we cannot. We cannot be indifferent to what happens in Europe. We cannot forget the fighting men of Britain. They are defending our liberty as well as theirs.

If they are permitted to fail I say to you quite deliberately that I do not believe liberty can survive here. I take issue with all who say we can survive with freedom in a totalitarian world.

I want to say to you even though some of you may disagree with me, and I say it to you with all the emphasis of my being, that if Britain falls before the onslaught of Hitlerism, it will be impossible over a period of time to preserve the free way of life in America.

There has been a bill introduced in Congress to give the President quite extraordinary power to deal with the present crisis, and as I said last Sunday, this bill must be modified in several respects and particularly in one—the extraordinary power granted must automatically come back to the people on a definite date.

I have listened this afternoon to the suggestions of Jim Wadsworth with whom, whether or not you all agree, you must say of him that of all the men in public life he hasmost consistently stood for what he believes, irrespective of the consequences. I have listened to some of his suggested amendments and I think they are wise suggestions to consider. I have also reviewed the suggestion of Kenneth Simpson, member of Congress from New York, and I think his suggestions are wise ones.

Warns on Blind Opposition

But let me say to you that if the Republican party in the year of 1941 makes a blind opposition to this bill and allows itself to be presented to the American people as the isolationist party, it will never again gain control of the American government. I beg of you—I plead with you—you people who believe as I do in our great system of government-please do not in blind opposition—do not because of hate of an individual—and of all persons in the United States I have least cause to hold a brief for him—forget the critical world situation which confronts us and in which America is a part.

We are fortunate to be represented in Congress—we Republicans—by very able and outstanding men. It is their duty and if I have any persuasive ability with them, I beg of them to debate and consider the bill and each of its provisions carefully. I urge you likewise to call upon them to examine the bill with utmost scrutiny and debate it thoroughly but in the final analysis after justifiable criticism urge them not to vote to render America or its Chief Executive impotent to preserve liberty in Britain—not alone because we are sympathetic with Britain's economic, social and cultural way of life but primarily because in her preservation of that way of life the hope of preserving it in America will be assured.

Our Chances of Staying Out

May I say to you as my considered judgment that America will not stay out of the war merely by persons asserting bravely in speeches that she will not go into the war. We will, however, stay out of the war, in my judgment, if the men of Britain are supported to the utmost and immediately. This can only be done by the granting of enlarged powers to the President to deal not alone with the international situation but with the building of the materials and instruments of combat.

Republicans of 1941, you who gave to me the rarest privilege that could come to any man, the privilege of leading the greatest cause of this century in a great crusade—I call upon you now to rise to the opportunity of preserving the blessed principles of freedom and the preserving of the Republican party so that it may be an effective instrumentality in the solution of both our domestic and our international problems. If during this critical period we play a wise and proper part America in the near future will call us the truly gallant and brave defenders of America into power. Let us not fail.

 

What I find amazing in that quote is that the President saw it coming months before we got involved in the war, and for what purpose. Yet even almost 75 years after the war started, most people are completely ignorant of the real resons behind what thw war was actually about.

 

Yes. As a Navy Secretary he saw it all coming in WW I, for that matter. That quote is also noteworthy in the context of the Export Act that excluded oil, for just the reasons cited in that speech.

 

Yea, but the Export Control Act was something that Japan should have seen coming.

It started way back in 1938 in response to the growing atricities Japan was doing in China, and nothing was changing. It even got so bad in China that in November 1941 the 4th marine Regiment abandoned China and relocated to the Philippines.

I am one of those individuals that even places the start of US involvement in WWII all the way back to 1937, when Japan attacked the USS Panay. Things only got worse during the Rape of Nanking, when the American Consolate and other American holdings were looted by Japanese soldiers, and the US Console-General was slapped by a Japanese soldier.

US-Japanese relations had already pretty much fallen into the crapper long before the Export Control Act was ever expanded to include oil, and a great many people had seen the war coming for years. And the ECA had not even really started to affect Japan yet, that was simply their justification for the war. Declaring war on a nation because they refuse to sell you things is never recognized as a valid reason.

It would be like my neighbor justifying attacking me physically because I do not want to sell him my car.

 

Yes. This stuff is why the current conspiratard fashion of America/FDR bashing re WW II is so ridiculously stupid.

 

A lot of people simply can not understand the difference between an embargo, and a blockade.

An Embargo is purely an internal matter, one nation refusting to sell goods to another. This is perfectly legal, and literally happens all the time. The US not selling advanced military hardware to other nations (like the F-117) is by definition an embargo to the rest of the world. Iran refusing to sell oil to the US is also an Embargo, and nobody talks about the US trying to use this as a justification to attack iran.

Yet this is exactly what happened in 1941. The US simply refused to sell oil to Japan, it did not do a damned thing to prevent other nations from selling oil to Japan. The only other place that oil was reasonably available was the Dutch East Indies, a territory under US-UK control after the surrender of the Netherlands to nazi Germany in 1940. So attacking the only other known source of oil in the region would have brought in the US anyways.

And the US would have done nothing about any other nation trying to sell them oil. Except WWII had already started in Europe, so almost no oil was being exported anywhere in the world by that time. World trade had already largely ground to a hault.

Conspiracy Theorists by definition are incredibly simple people. Everything is a conspiracy, and every single action has been at the order of Big Business-Jews-Etc since the start of time to them. I am constantly amazed at how easily most of their stupid claims are blown out of the water ("Carriers ordered to safety"), yet they are unable to recognize simple truths and hold onto their insane theories insiting they are true.

 

Conspiritard theories and why they exist.

“The only way I can get to sleep at night is by imagining a secret cabal of highly competent puppetmasters who are handling the important decisions while our elected politicians debate flag burning and the definition of marriage.” -Scott Adams

from Superclass: The Global Power Elite and the World They're Making, by David Rothkopf, page 254.

This is a nice way of saying conspiratards are a bunch of thumb sucking neurotic twits.

 

This actually makes sense.

But again....they would have to either do this by Missile or Aircraft attack as no one is going to be able to secretly place enough Demolition Charges to do the job without being caught.

We track EVERYTHING.....and it is extremely difficult for an enemy to sneak up on us unless it is a Terrorist Attack.

AboveAlpha

 

I was talking about CONVENTIONAL ATTACKS.

I understand to simply only consider conventional attacks is idiotic but when you bring in Biological Weapons or Chemical or Nuclear....you and I BOTH KNOW.....WE CONSIDER THIS CROSSING THE LINE!!!

Our retaliation would be unimaginable....and NO NATION would have any option to sit on the fence.

After 9/11 I saw 5 plans....and of those 5 plans...4 of which read like the screenplay of DR. STRANGELOVE.

Believe it or not the least destructive of those 5 plans was chosen but that plan was modified.

NATION BUILDING WAS NEVER SUPPOSED TO BE INVOLVED!!!

AboveAlpha

 

Mushroom....let me give you a few VERY POSSIBLE SCENARIO'S.

Scenario #1. Now AVERTED. After the British Lease of Hong Kong ran out China marched in with huge numbers of PLA Troops just to make a statement.

The Chinese Communist Party Leadership wanted both the PLN and PLA Leadership to draw up a viable plan for China to INVADE AND RECLAIM TAIWAN BY 2010 TO 2011....their original Goal Date was 2008.

PLN and PLA Leadership PLEADED with the Old Guard Chinese Communist Party Leadership that any such attempted invasion of Taiwan WOULD RESULT IN A MILITARY DEFEAT AND DISASTER FOR CHINA SO GREAT it would take them 20 to 30 years to recover.

HERO....who got the Chinese Communist Leadership to call off such an Invasion?

Hero's name is Chinese General Chen Bingde.

Do you know WHY this invasion was averted and what the event was that convinced General Chen Bingde that any such Invasion of Taiwan would result in an epic disaster for Chinese Forces?

Senario #2.....VERY REAL POSSIBILITY.

The United States and Canada will become 100% ENERGY SELF SUFFICIENT by 2023....was to be 2025 but the events in the Ukraine speed up the time table.

American Shale Oil and Canadian Sand Tar Oil along with Liquid Oil in both Nations is now estimated to be 6.1 TIMES GREATER than the entire Middle eastern Oil Reserves.

U.S. still remains as having by multiple magnitudes the largest COAL RESERVES on the Planet.

China buys our Coal.

Russia cannot meet Chinese requests for supply of Oil and Natural Gas.

The vast majority of Oil and Natural Gas exist in Western Siberia not Eastern Siberia where China is getting SCREWED as it has given Putin's Russia Billions upon Billions to rapidly increase supply...in one case alone $70 Billion....to dramatically increase East Siberian Oil Pumping to China.....which Russia did not even come close to agreed numbers.

China signed contracts to pay Russia $120 a Barrel as China bet Oil would go UP!

China is refusing to pay $120 a barrel as Russia has not come close to agreed numbers.

China want's to purchase Oil from U.S. and Canada at cheap prices.

This places China in competition with Europe which will find the U.S. will quickly loose interest in the Middle East after 2023.

What happens?

AboveAlpha

 

Since 9-11-01 the Coast Guard always has a boat around the Coronado bridge 24/7.

I never did get a chance using the Coronado ferry that use to run from San Diego (proper) to Coronado.

 

We are never supposed to talk about Subs but just using the basic Public Information available it details the U.S. has a massive and very powerful Submarine Force.

The L.A. Class is still a great Attack Sub but the Virginia Class....the cheaper version of the Seawolf Class of which we have 3 Seawolfs and 11 Virginia Class and with 3 Virginia Class being made a year the total OFFICIAL number of U.S. Navy Subs will be 71 by 2016.

These are the Vanguard of U.S. Fleet and Mainland Protection.

AboveAlpha