What is good about Open Borders?

The US supports democracies all over the world and is a democracy ourselves
so over 50% of Americans presumably support an open Southern border.

So why do you support an open Southern Border?

 

What is good about Open Borders?

Nothing.

 

Yes, nothing. The school system, social service systems, public safety and national security are all at risk. Progressives complain about subsidies to rich fat cats. Open borders lower wages and give advantages to wealthy employers who want cheap labor.

It is good to support controlled immigration. We need new blood, but we need to get control of the border.

 

What's good about Bribed Joe's Open Borders?

• It helps Sex Traffickers - 85% of the Central American Women who cross the border are raped by their coyotes in the process.
• It's great for Fentanyl pushers.
• It's awesome for Terrorists establishing cells in the US

Leprosy Is on The Rise in Florida, Scientists Report.

 

What's good about open borders? MSNBC is glad you asked because a wall would prevent birds from migrating north and south. Yes, they said that.

Open borders are really, really bad when half the planet is trying to get here, including some really bad dudes.

 

First, how do you define an "open border?" Furthermore, how do you define a "closed border?" Third, what priorities would you give for immigrants such as family reunification, types of workers, and humanitarian efforts?

Me, my response is other. We have neither an "open border" nor a "closed border." The perfect example of a country with a closed border is the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea. all other countries have a controlled border from PRC to the US to countries within the EU that have a mixed border system. Countries within the EU can freely move across the border as long as they have ID.

We need legal immigration reform to take care of the dysfunction of the legal immigration system. We should prioritize family reunification, legal workers that we need which includes the low-skilled jobs, and a revamp of humanitarian for asylum and refugee status.

 

We’ve all seen the videos of the thousands of people walking towards this country, but has anyone seen them pushing shopping carts full of food? Who feeds them? Who takes care of their medical problems? How do they charge their smart phones?

In a video I saw yesterday I saw illegals in Arizona wearing flip flop instead of shoes. There’s no way they walked through the jungle and then a desert with mere sandals.

 

There are parts of our border that are literally wide open. Any place where there is no barrier and no patrols is wide open. 13 or 14 years ago my vice president was dirt biking in the desert east of El Paso, he didn't know his exact location until the Mexican police or military stopped him and said he ventured into Mexico. He said he was scared shitless because he first thought they were going to steal all the dirt bikes, but all they did was check for weapons and let them go.

 

We need to stop accepting applications for immigration/asylum at our borders and within the US.
Applications should only be accepted at offices overseas.
Problem solved.

 

What is good about Open Borders?
Good for criminals to escape their home countries and hide in the USA.
Good for drug smugglers seeking the large USA market.
Good for the lazy who want to get on the dole here in the USA.
Good for pregnant females who want their babies born in the USA.
Good for anyone with a disease who seeks free medical treatment.
Good for those who want free college tuition.

 

Open borders don't exist. Perhaps we need to discuss what is wrong with current border practices.

 

Within the European Union, or inside the US (State lines), where the borders are open it makes travel and commerce easier. Borders like US-Mexico, which is not open, the wait times can long, and if you are picked for search, it could be hours, and of course travel requires documentation.

US-Mexico border


Netherlands-Belgium border


German border with another EU member nation

 

Is the Netherlands run by a crime syndicate that traffics drugs and slaves into Belgium? If not they probably have less cause to inspect for contraband and exploited humans entering the country.

 

For a change, I can agree with much of what you say you want.

I note three kinds of borders- Open, Closed, and Controlled.
I say- we close the border, temporarily, right now. We get to work fixing our system with the objective of supporting immigration which benefits America, rejecting that which brings harm.
As soon as that is established, we open the border subject to new rules. Those new rules must include full control over the border and the people who are presently walking in and ignoring our laws.

The question of admittance must be ours. The right to immigrate to the USA is in our hands, not the immigrants that game the weaknesses and sympathy of our system.
We are not the world's welfare agency- our loyalty must always be to our nation.

 

Well, yes, they are and have always been the narcotics and prostitution hot-spot in Europe. They don't try to hide the fact that its a problem there. But you are right of course. Unlike Holland we have a border and border control to minimize smuggling and human trafficking.

As soon as Holland decriminalized cannabis in the 90s, the number of crime families shot up from 3 to over 90, and they made Holland the drug capital of Europe.

 

The southern border is like abortion -- minds are made up and nothing will change a single mind. Meanwhile it's documented that thousands of babies are being killed and thousands of undesirables are entering the USA.

 

Humans have always been migratory, seeking a better life for themselves and their families.

Who wouldn't put their kids first by fleeing from oppression and poverty rather than kowtowing to bureaucracy?

Since the United States is spending more than ever to interdict undocumented folks entering the United States, the hyper-partisan hyperbole about "open borders" is nonsense. The numbers seeking to migrate are driven by circumstances in their countries of origin far more than the immigration policies of their destinations, and vary accordingly. Unemployment has been very low in the U.S., and economic opportunity attracts more folks, obviously.

Still, it is the responsibility of Congress to legislate comprehensive immigration reforms.

Some rather whine about it rather than actually redress the problem.

The Immigration and Nationality Act (enacted in 1952) which is the main law governing immigration in the United States, came from Congress. It covers all the basics, such as who is eligible to immigrate, how many can do so each year, who is inadmissible and cannot be allowed into the United States, what the penalties are for violating U.S. immigration laws, and so on.

What's more, it is Congress that is empowered to change this law or to write any other laws affecting immigration.​

 

https://ocindex.net/country/netherlands
https://ocindex.net/country/mexico

Mexico is ranked 3rd for prevalence of organized crime & 124th in their ability to withstand and disrupt organized criminal activities as a whole.
Netherlands is ranked 97th for prevalence of organized crime & 17th in their ability to withstand and disrupt organized criminal activities as a whole.

Rather than being run by the crime families, the data indicates that Netherlands is fairly competent at keeping them in check.

 

The purpose of open borders is to import future democrat voters through the "path to citizenship." They consider that good. Otherwise open borders are dangerous and stupid.

 

Who are you talking to? Who is "you"? I don't know or even heard of ANYBODY who supports an open southern border for... decades....

Nothing like starting a thread based on a MYTH when you can't open one with any grounding on the REAL world.

 

Good luck getting any lefty to admit they are for open borders.

 

Unlike the US, they are Libertarians. They "keep them in check", by allowing them to operate. Have you ever been to Amsterdam? Coffee shops where cannabis is sold openly and legally. Customers are given menus with different kinds of pot and hashish. Prostitutes sitting behind windows, so customers can window-shop for their type of woman (or man). Peep shows everywhere. Dealers selling hard drugs everywhere. Whatever you do, don't leave anything visible in your car, because junkies are going to break the window and grab it.

Yes, we imported 3 million Cubans because they vote Republican. Right?

 

Why would somebody who is for open border NOT "admit" that they are for open borders?

This post says a lot more about YOU than about anybody else. That you would even consider it possible to have a position that you don't admit having tells us quite a bit about you.

 

And? There are parts of our border that you cannot put a fence on it either. They are called mountains. Texas has a Native American Reservation that straddles both US and Mexico. That Indian reservation said no to any border wall. Legally, the US cannot force the Indian Reservation to accept the border wall either since they are a somewhat "separate country."

All a border wall does is change the flow of which migrants cross. That's it. And with Israel, Hamas dug tunnels underneath their border wall with the entire Gaza Strip being one big damn prison, figurately speaking. Want to go to Gaza? You either have to fly into Egypt and enter on the southern side or through the Israeli side while flying into Tel Aviv. And yet, October 7th still happened despite all the "security measures" that Israel has taken. If you think a border wall will solve illegal immigration in the US, it won't.

Your VP should have been more careful, and at least, he wasn't shot on site for illegally entering the Mexican side, taken to jail, spent a year there, and was deported by Mexico into some other country, like Cuba for instance. See, that's how we do it, right? or should do it if you want the MEGA crowd get their way?

 

So, you're saying that my post shows that I'm not for open borders?