What is happening between Syria and Turkey?

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  1. haydar

    haydar Member

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    Syria hit an F-4 aircraft, due to it passed to Syria border between 8 and 15 milles, for few minutes. Aircraft fall down to Mediterranian.
    I am aganist to my goverment for Syria stratedy. Europe and USA force Turkey to enter Syria to occupy on the other hand Russia and China is aganist for such a occupation.

    Sure in Syria there is a dictatorship by Esat familiy and Syria is garden of Russia. However in Syria many people support Esad family...
    On the other hand while in the wrold more bloddy countries and dictators why USA and Europe is so sensitive on Syria? Why Turkey participate in such a scenario.

    All event to destroy Russia-China-Syria-Iran block in the area. And USA and EU want to use Turkey on this target, Turkey have nothing to win from this war except to have more enemy in the area.
     
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    Russia says its much ado `bout nothin'...
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    Russia Shoots Down Turkey-Syria War Rhetoric
    June 26, 2012 : Russia said Tuesday that Syria's shooting down of a Turkish F4 Phantom jet is not a provocation of war.
     
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    150 Dead, TV Station Stormed In Syria...
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    Blast hits Damascus, Turkey sends troops to border
    Thu Jun 28, 2012 - Rebel forces attacked Syria's main court in central Damascus on Thursday, state television said, while Turkey deployed troops and anti-aircraft rocket launchers to the Syrian border, building pressure on President Bashar al-Assad.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Like abandoning a sinking ship...
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    High-ranking general defects from Syrian military
    Fri July 6, 2012 : U.S. official says if Manaf Tlas joined Syria's insurgency, it would be "significant"; Tlas was perhaps the most senior Sunni in Bashar al-Assad's regime, scholar says; Tlas was disgusted with the killing of Sunnis, a Western official says; The Tlas family knows "how the place is wired," a Syria expert says
     
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    turkey is only brave against civilian kurds and pkk , here they shot your plane killing its 2 pilots , oh well do something about it :razz:
     
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    Assad gov't. runnin' outta time...
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    Clinton: With more defections, Syrian regime's 'days are numbered'
    July 8th, 2012 - U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Sunday that "the days are numbered" for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's regime.
    Analysis: Syria options dwindling
    July 7th, 2012 - When the Friends of Syria group began meeting this year, first in Tunis and again in Istanbul, there was a sense of possibility. Perhaps the group would endorse military action against Syria. Maybe they would recognize the Syrian National Council as the legitimate opposition group.
     
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    Another defection, Russia sends in its Navy...
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    Syrian Ambassador to Iraq Defects; Joins Rebels
    July 11, 2012 - Syria's ambassador to Iraq, Nawaf Fares, has defected and says he has joined the revolution.
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    Russian Warships Steam to Syria
    July 11, 2012
    MOSCOW — Two Russian Navy ships entered the eastern Mediterranean Wednesday, steaming toward a Russian Navy base at Tartus, Syria. The ships are advance units of a flotilla of 11 warships - one destroyer, five amphibious landing ships, two patrol frigates, two rescue tugs, and one tanker. Several ships carry units of Russian Marines.

     
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    Another massacre in Syria...
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    Opposition: Civilians Massacred in Syrian Village
    July 12, 2012 - Syrian opposition activists say government forces have massacred more than 150 people, mostly civilians, inside a village in Hama province.
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    Over 200 massacred in Syrian government forces attack: activists
    12 July`12 - More than 200 Syrians, mostly civilians, were massacred in a village in the rebellious Hama region when it was bombarded by helicopter gunships and tanks and then stormed by militiamen, opposition activists said.
     
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    Syria's defected ambassador blasts Assad...
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    Defected Syrian envoy lashes out at Assad
    14 July`12 — Nawaf Fares, who this week defected as Syria's ambassador to Iraq, on Saturday accused President Bashar al-Assad of allowing Al-Qaeda to use Syria as a springboard for attacks in his former host country.
     
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    I was thinking that with the fall of Sarkozy in France , Hollande will be enough intelligent to stop the bull(*)(*)(*)(*) done in syria , alas no this stupid is going on the same tracks as Sarkozy

    Honestly I am fed up that Hollande go on those stupidities in Syria , I am quite angry that we french back up those stupid quataries and saoudians mercenaries allied with the Cia Al Quaeda fanatics flighted from Lybia , Bosnia , Georgia and Kosovo , what the hell are we doing like sheet in Syria us so called western democrats !
    :???:
     
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    Turkey had almost a good relation with her neighbors, Iran, Iraq and Syria, before Syria crisis. But because of their politicians' wrong prediction and doing bag play for west especially US, now they have 3 neighbors who never rely to turkey in future. They should know west countries will go from the ME and just her neighbors remain in the region.
     
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    Turkey needs to realize that the West is using it for their own national interests.

    The only reason Turkey is even a member of NATO was because at the time it joined it was a strategic ally against the Soviet Union and a counter to the Warsaw Pact.

    What does Turkey gain by isolating itself from its neighbors by helping the Wests Middle East agenda? Nothing good comes from isolation.
     
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    Mmmmm........ !

    The aircraft was in Syrian national territory, a place it should not of been in the first place! What was it doing there anyways?

    But as a NATO member if one is attacked, they can all respond to defend Turkey.

    Exactly what America wants...... and Australia ....to mention but a few!

    But the Jet was shot down....... most likely by a Russian order or hand!

    You lot are playing with fire! The PKK Kurds, and Turks are mere pawns in the game!

    Regards
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    I beleive Erdogan pays the bill of his 10 years government. Because he came here with the support of West, there is big capital, unknown money in Turkey. Where this money came from? It is funny when Erdogan become goverment Turkey started to ''grown up'' rapidly however in the life we can't feel this growing up this growing is press story little bit. Salaraies stays the same, this is mostly pushed by press, sure Turkey is growing up but this is a natural result, Turkey was growing up before Erdogan too but it wasn't advertised like now. Sure there is difference and this difference is coming with warm money which is unknown money and by hard tax policy of Erdogan government.

    Now he is in big trouble because west asks the bill and force him to enter Syria.
    Israel reaction was Erdogan's own decision to satisfy the voters and himself which is allowed by USA and West. Maybe they also wanted to show stick to Israel. Palistinians didn't earn anything from Turkey's reaction, just 12 Turkish died for nothing.

    Anyway, If Erdogan doesn't follow orders of west they will draw his name, and Erdogan + AKP buble will be finished soon.
    AKP and Erdogan is like a bad character surgent, he is doing bad works of his commands meanwhile he satisfy himself by torturing some of his solders and he is giving awards to his favarute soldiers.
    Nowadays in Turkey there is not another power accept Erdogan, he orders and the laws change, he orders they send journalists, writers, artists, generals, students to prison.

    He seriously thinks he is an Ottoman Sultan...
     
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    I am not sure that Turkey is playing a good card in the ME by sticking to the NATO plan in order to destroy Assad power in Syria

    What is sure is that the Damas volcano and the Alep earthquake have been already chop down to tiny pieces by the Syrian army with the help of the syrian population , game over for NATO !

    What USA can do now ?
    => Send Mrs Clinton worldwide crying out that Syria has WMDs , and make the same crappy circus at the UN as they have already done it in the past in 2001 for Irak

    The only question is : are Russia and China going to let USA invade Syria without resistance or intervention ?
    Its doubfull
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    Well , it seems that the reign of the quataries and saoudian mercenaries terrorists in the north of Syria is coming to an end !

    What kind of jerk commanding those terrorists is enough stupid to make a remake of an urban Dien Ben Phu ? ^^
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Dien_Bien_Phu

    I am pretty sure that it can be only a Saoudian in command in a remote bunker in the south of the Turkey
    :shh:
     
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    you mean Saudi agenda ? this war has paid "exclusively" from the wahhabi pockets
     
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    You can have any opinion of George Galloway you like, but one, he is a proven man of honour, and 2 who has an obvious duty to do for mankind!

    As for the Saudi Jews the wahhabi what else do you expect!

    Regards
    Highlander
     
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    While Turkey goes round and round with Syria, a new Kurdistan is being born.
     
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    What nonsense..... Turkey only does what its been told to do!

    Kurdistan is regardless what you or I think is an area of Land that Kurds live...... call it what you like, Turkey will one day have to accept it as will Syria.

    But at least Syria has an autonomous region that the Kurds can live in peace, pity the Syrians the Lebanese and Palestinians cannot do the same.

    Aye your reprobates representing the AIPAC in the American senate have a lot to answer!

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    I agree , but contrary to the opinion of others, the standard of living for the average "Kurd" is considerably better withing Turkey's borders than the corruption in Northern Iraq .

    May I also point out that the so-called "Kurds " are NOT homogenous , there are considerable differences in customs language/dialects /customs etc.

    May I also mention , that what is happening today in Syria is a human tragedy , a catastophe for many innocent people, of whatever ethnicity, who do not deserve the current chaotic turmoil, which seem to have been instigated by foreign powers .



    " "The cause is hidden. The effect is visible to all." ovid. (wink)


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  25. highlander

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    Well said
    Regards
    Highlander
     

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