What is so good about Communism?

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Well no country really tried. The Soviet Union no more tried to be communist than the Democratic Republic of the Congo tries to be democratic. And it's probably for the best, as we haven't yet reached the technology level necessary to support communism. According to Marx, social revolution comes hand in hand with advances in the means of production, and while socialism did indeed show up alongside wide-spread industrialization, working communism wouldn't be expected until we're a fair bit closer to the post-scarcity side of the economic spectrum.

 

the communist "ideal" isn't bad, except for the fact that basic human nature will corrupt it. It is not a meritocracy, it is a mediocracy.
about the only good thing any commie country ever regularly produced was excellent "amateur" athletic teams and individuals.

Any system that suppresses free speech and dissent is inherently bad.
Any system the restrict property ownership is inherently bad.
Any system that promotes mediocrity over excellence except for an identified elite is inherenlty bad.
Any system that make people line up for toilet paper to wipe their arses isn't just inherently bad, its a stupendous failure.

 

I do not know anyone joining the socialist party. I know some rabid liberals. Even they don't acknowledge themselves as socialist, though I admit they do seem to really admire successful socialist countries.

Russia and cold war China are gone. The cold war is gone. We have a HOT terrorist war going on now. Why live in the past?

So what if the tiny and powerless communist party in the US grows. Nutballs all of them. And few.

Get a grip and relax.

 

^ dude who doesn't know wtf a nomination is

 

He obviously has the same intellect as you.

 

Communism =/= socialism.

 

There nothing good about either socialism or Communism.

 

The War on Terror is not even a War. It's a national security bubble.

 

communism is where the people pretend to work and the government pretends to pay you.

 

Communism is where a group of very corrupt politicians seize authoritarian control of the economy, ruthlessly abuse that power for self-interest gain, driving all production and trade into the Black Market.

As the Black Marketeers gain in strength, wealth, and therefore political power, the Crime-Lords squeeze control away from the inept and ineffective Communist Leaders, ushering in a era of Kleptocracy.

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None is always right but we can learn from our mistakes while taking full responsibility of them , it is too bad that are subscribing to the cult of personality so someone else is to blame for our misdeeds .

What communism where? you mean state capitalism .

 

Replace "communism" with 'capitalism' and you'll find that both are equally corruptible. We're enjoying the benefits of unbridled capitalist greed right now. Thank you America; this recession is great and, joy of joys, we have many more years of it to savour! God bless capitalism!

 

That's another thing; democracy always leads to the stupid people voting irrationality and ultimately ending up with elected a charismatic leader who abolish democracy. The only thing that can save and preserve the freedoms of the people is to restrain their freedom to vote somewhat.

 

I think it's you with the misrepresentations, unless you choose to disassociate yourself from the hoards of posters who consider that they should live their lives practically tax free, while still taking advantage of every amenity provided by government for their benefit.

 

There is nothing good about Communism that isn't true about Socialism, except that in an emergency-like situation with a population that hasn't had economic disincentives bred into their bones by too long a period of Communist rule, a Communist system can be capable of directing the resources of a nation toward crucial ends. The same is also true of highly Facist systems as well, so this is more a factor of authoritarianism and ruthless achieving results rather than something unique to Communism.

 

Don't act stupid.

I mean Eastern Europe, Russia, North Korea, Cuba, China, Angola, Albania, Angola, Vietnam etc etc etc

At one point of time, the majority of the world's population lived under Communism and your telling me that not one country got it right? Really?

Maybe the problem is that Communism doesn't work. Ever think about that?

 

Oh now i am stupid? i think i was clear NONE of the above atrocities were/are communist .
I hate to repeat myself but one of the basic concepts of communism are 1. decentralisation ( power to the soviet / communities) 2. ability to remove an administrator from office in hours . If you think that all commies support the "dictatorship of the proletariat" BS you are wrong.

 

But the atrocities were commited by people who sought to, but failed at, achieving communism wasn't?

Or maybe you'd just like to say it was just state capitalism, and then put the blame on capitalism somehow?

 

Socialism and communism are alike in that both are systems of production for use based on public ownership of the means of production and centralized planning. Socialism grows directly out of capitalism; it is the first form of the new society. Communism is a further development or "higher stage" of socialism.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his deeds (socialism). From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs (communism).

Socialism does not mean taking away the first kind of private property, e.g. your suit of clothes; it does mean taking away the second kind of private property, e.g. your factory for making suits of clothes. It means taking away private property in the means of production from the few so that there will be much more private property in the means of consumption for the many. That part of the wealth which is produced by workers and taken from them in the form of profits would be theirs, under socialism, to buy more private property, more suits of clothes, more furniture, more food, more tickets to the movies.

More private property for use and enjoyment. No private property for oppression and exploitation. That’s socialism.

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Sounds like you are describing Anarchism and not Communism.

Look into Anarchism you might like it better.

 

communism, despite it always failing and leading to fascist like states and mass murder, is actually about trying to achieve some left wing anarchist utopia that goes completely against human nature. stateless, moneyless, classless, propertyless, and most importantly: senseless.

 

Full communism is always bad, but so is unregulated capitalism (also known as corporatism)

 

Communism is an absolute state I think, it doesn't make sense to talk about 'full' communism as if there existed any other kind of it. And I don't know if corporatism is really in the same direction as unregulated capitalism. More the other way I'd say, as the state has more influence.