What is the big deal about Obamacare being declared unconstitutional?

When you mask symptoms, the patient can comfortably continue the habits. People take the path of least resistance. Its not like they have to put in extra hours at work to pay for the meds. You and I pay for it.

 

Lets start with obesity. 1 in 3 Americans are diabetic or pre-diabetic.

https://www.cdc.gov/diabetes/library/features/diabetes-stat-report.html

 

It met her requirements and worked for her.
Why should she lose it?

 

Wasn’t referring to myself.

 

I’m aware we pay for people being lazy glutinous pigs.

 

It doesn't. But it hasn't stopped them from seizing that power, unfortunately. Congress is, as usual, derelict, give or take a few.

 

Everything.

Cite for me the clause of the Constitution that authorizes the government to control and regulate healthcare??

The constitutional basis might be the commerce clause, but the interpretation of that clause used by the left all but empowers the FedGov to literally takeover and run every business in the United States - which they have essentially done anyway.

Of course those interpretations were never the intent of the Founders; nor are they consistent with precedent prior to the 30's; nor are they consistent with the principles of freedom or sound economics.

But of course the left has no interest in freedom or sound economics, do they?? They are solely concerned with power and control of the people, property, and means of production.

Which is what Obamacare IS consistent with.

 

~ What does that tell us about the courts ..?

 

I’m guessing they disagree with you on the constitutionality. I will go with the Justices over some message board dude.

 

1) All the EO from the Tangerine Turd said was that he supported coverage for pre-existing conditions. It didn't mandate dick.

2) The GOP doesn't get to hide from this. Sooner or later, the day comes that you can't hide from the things you've done anymore. The GOP caught the car they've been barking at and chasing for a decade. Now what?

 

Right now? So you were "circling back" to something that did not exist prior and only in the now? ...and that makes sense to you?

 

~ I believe that is "CNN logic " ...´

 

If your previous plan was not ACA compliant it was NOT because of the maternity. It was probably because the plan had a lifetime cap. ACA plans have no cap limits. Prior to the ACA, it was cap limits that put people in Schitt's creek when they were diagnosed with something really bad like cancer.

 

And water is wet.

It's this that I was asking for some facts:

I want to see evidence of this conspiracy you are referring to here.

 

Without the mandate, participation is voluntary. I won't be participating in it, so idc what else it is.

 

The idea of a law using the power of the minority to tyrannize the majority is such an anti-American practice, it will haunt us forever. "Those 23 million!". Yeah, there's like 330 million of us! That means 307 million Americans are not affected either way(well, not entirely true. Anyone who remembers the Obama regime and when the law was at its peak, the young were required to dip into the system to keep it relevant!)

It's a system of tentacles, and deserves to in the words of Obama himself: Be put in a museum(of shame) and stay there.

 

~ Yes indeed. Trump killed that and the ' surcharge ' for not participating.

 

~ We have yet to see.

~ Americans are not sick because of medicine - they are sick in spite of it. Lose weight ; quit smoking; quit doping ; stop the fast-food diet and exercise a little each day and most of us can eliminate many of the medications we are 'addicted' to.
Medicine keeps us living longer with conditions that killed people in their 50's only several decades ago .

 

~ You are in the minority if you are an American male over the age of 50. I have to lose 40 lbs .. .

 

~ Well now.. here is a solution if your insurance runs out :

⬆ This guy is a genius !

 

23 million what? That you would write off 23 million American's health right off the bat is certainly a caliber of callousness on par with what I imagine an extremist would hold as "logical", I guess, but I would label it as pure unadulterated bunk.

In the event you're just being facetious for show, then where's the damn replacement? You can knock Obamacare all you want, but no one is stepping up and presenting anything better, you know, like on paper, not just more of Trump's empty rhetoric.

 

I've offered comprehensive health care reform before, namely off the Singapore model where the people actually have a choice and where you don't have to force other people to join to make it work.

 

Removing Obamacare in itself isn't a problem, it's removing it and not substituting a sufficient replacement that is problematic, which admittedly isn't the courts' job

 

To be clear, let's not pretend SC opinions are a reflection of "constitutional muster." The Constitution says whatever the current majority says it does. Even conservative legal experts were surprised at the lower court ruling on the ACA. Most legal experts of all stripes said it would be overturned by the SC. But that was before we lost RBG and the Repubs stole another justice with the premature nomination of yet another extremist ideologue.

 

Good point. I forgot about the lifetime cap. In addition...

• every compliant plan must offer the following
  • Ambulatory/outpatient care
  • Emergency visits
  • Hospitalization
  • Maternity care- care for you and your baby before and after birth
  • Services for mental health and substance use disorders
  • Prescription medication
  • Rehabilitative and habilitative services
  • Laboratory services
  • Services for prevention and wellness and chronic disease management
  • Pediatric services, including vision and dental

Also what many people don’t understand about how plans are underwritten is there is an increase cost risk to insurers with no Pre-x. With not being able to deny high cost members insurance the insurers now had to take on these high cost members which had an impact on premiums.
Let’s be honest, they only dislike ACA because of who it’s named after.