What is the end game for race realist?

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  1. Thanos36

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    Has the best education, but it does not mean Americans are the ones taking advantage of this education
     
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    Regardless, money is not a limiting factor to explain few blacks in the stem fields.

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    What are you basing this on?

    Do you think blacks are inherently better at certain cognitive/intellectual abilities than whites?
     
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    I'm guessing a Black with an I.Q. of 120 can get a full ride at an Ivy League college.
     
  4. Thanos36

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    Well that education not being emphasized in the home. Lower poverty people tend to not care as much about quantum mechanics when people are trying to make end's meet. Generally curosity attract people to these fields, and curiosity is generally stifled early on in lower income neighborhoods. I do find poor parents pretty short sighted, only focusing on grades instead of what they actually learn.

    Me personally I grew up poor, but my mother purchased books on atronomy, plenty of encyclopedias, and even gave me a cheap computer that some people in her office was going to throw away. My always encouraged me to be curious. And such it drove my interest in STEM.

    You see this mostly with middle income parents, and it's very rare in lower income parents. Most people I know in my time working were usually already from a middle to upper middle class household. Majority of them are foreign, and they only get these degrees because their schooling is free and it's seen as an escape from poverty over there.

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    I doubt it
     
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    No, based on the fact that my primary source is a Biological Anthropologist and one of the foremost experts on the subject. I can just as easily accuse you of bias. That gets us nowhere.



    Jabrosky has already pointed out that the editors of the Wikipedia page can't even get their facts straight when it comes to these sources. My source directly addresses the issue.


    I substantiated my argument that the Ancient Egyptians were a dark-skinned and tropically adapted people with Biological Affinities to their more Southerly neighbors. The multiple lines of scientific evidence is consistent with their own artistic depictions of themselves.

    I'm here to combat racism. There's a difference between being against racism and being obsessed with race or racial differences.

    I've been against it since I learned about it in school when Gore lost to Bush. The popular vote doesn't decide who wins the election? Why not? What sense does that make?

    I didn't say OJ Simpson didn't kill them now did I? I said that if he did kill them they did a good job of setting him up to commit another crime and make sure he goes to jail. I'm not interested in popular opinion on the subject. People should look at the evidence. I was only a kid when the trial happened. I watched as much as I could on Youtube and the conclusion I came to is if he did it his defense did a hell of a job making a case that he didn't do it. I don't know if he did it or not. I did however find this TV special addressing alternative theories including that his son Jason committed the murders to be interesting.

    [video=youtube;QG5CPhGoT3M]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG5CPhGoT3M&t=53s[/video]

    I certainly agree that every group should be credited with their own accomplishments and civilizations. But here is the most important question on the subject. Why did European explorers feel the need to denigrate Black Africans and others for what they perceived as a lack of cultural achievements in the first place? If Africans were nothing but a bunch of savages running around in the jungle chucking spears at wild animals, eating each other or any other primitive practices you attribute to pre-colonial Africa why does it matter to you? You have your culture. So why do you feel the need to insult other cultures? The racist mentality and racist propaganda is the problem here. Suppose I am completely wrong about all of my arguments about Ancient Egypt. At best you can say that I am wrong. The goal here is to put African history in its proper context. If Ancient Egypt is not part of that history, ok fine. But what if it is? Are you going to stop insulting Africans and accept that there were successful Black African civilizations? Why are you attacking African cultures in the first place?

    Again this debate didn't start with Afrocentrists looking at Egypt and saying, "There's an ancient civilization! Let's claim it for Black people!"

    Afrocentrism wasn't even a thing when Western Europeans came to Africa. European explorers came to Africa, made observations of the natives, developed racist opinions and then when they went to Egypt they went to a lot of effort to deny that they were Black Africans before any scholars of African descent gave any opinion themselves. Egyptomania was created by Europeans. Theories about the race of the Ancient Egyptians was started by Europeans. Afrocentrism is a reaction to Eurocentrism and the denigration of African cultures. Some Afrocentric theories are clearly wrong and I don't support them. Claiming the Ancient Egyptians were Black is not about stealing the culture of modern Egyptians it's about placing the culture in a proper historical context. Egypt is an Egyptian heritage regardless of what the ancestors looked like. It just so happens that the art and scientific evidence supports my position instead of yours.

    I did not say or even suggest that slavery was a White only affair.

    What is the average IQ of Native Americans? I can't find a reliable source. This was brought up in the Graves-Rushton debate and they disagreed on the number. I know it's lower than 100 but can't find an estimate from a reliable source.
     
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    Because in practical terms, most problems come down to knowledge. And problem solving comes down to knowledge. If we can teach black children advanced mathematics early, then that would give them an advantage. Also emphasizing STEM education in school from the beginning will show a major shift.
     
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    Because STEM is not that hard. And the way we teach children math is both slow and ineffective. We can accelerate the learn process by quite a bit.
     
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    Exactly what mummies and what studies?
     
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    so can someone explain to me why would learning anything in STEM require a high IQ?
     
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    Mathematics and Physics are regarded as the most difficult studies in college. Math and Physical science and engineering majors are given greater status in class rankings.

    http://qz.com/334926/your-college-major-is-a-pretty-good-indication-of-how-smart-you-are/

    And of course there are statistically few Blacks in such fields---and Black women in particular are rarities

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown...-represented-among-low-paying-college-majors/
     
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    Check post #84.
     
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    Because math and physics are poorly taught. It's not hard if it's presented the right way.
     
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    You may as well believe all the Ethiopians who win the marathons are taught how to run better in their crummy schools better than what the students in the wealthy American and Japanese schools with the very best of everything.

    yeah right.
     
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    Why'd you ignore this part of my post?

    Your source is included in the Wiki article.

    One typo doesn't invalidate the entire page, which contains over 60 cited sources.

    You found a source that supports that claim, yes, just like I have found multiple sources that disagree with that conclusion.

    Oh? Is that why you suggested a few days ago that an angry white woman might need some black genitalia to feel better? (Your post was more crudely expressed).

    It makes perfect sense. A few overpopulated population centers shouldn't get to dictate the direction of a large, diverse country such as the US. The Founders understood this.

    Yes, you have claimed that in the past.

    Again, you are now in the minority of blacks who think OJ did not commit the murders. That's reassuring, and evidence of the progress that has been made since the 90's.

    This would all be well and good if the cultures were separate and protected. Yes, "I have my culture", and it's not yours. You have your own. What I battle against is the mixing of people because it destroys not only race, but culture as well. This is done with left-wing goals in mind. It's easier for Governments to control people who have no ties to race, religion, family, or culture, so the left has systematically attacked each of these institutions since they started gaining a foothold in the West. Now they don't even bother to disguise their movement anymore, it's subversive Bolshevism and increasingly violent.
     
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    Those look like nice Arayans. Right up your alley.
     
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    They do have some great physical features. Too bad the left wants to destroy them for political benefit.
     
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    Just curious how much math have you taken? Can't say that I have ever seen a Black math professor. What is the derivative of X?
     
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    From your source:

    They didn't quantify any of that did they?

    Even many Whites have small percentages of Black DNA ancestry. Some 96 to 98% of human DNA is shared with Chimps. And 50% of human DNA with bananas.

    It wouldn't prove much to study the DNA of everyday Egyptians from over 3000 years ago---as many slaves and foreign workers were known to be used. What is most significant is the DNA of the ruling class. Those who designed the great structures and led the nation.

    That is why you're not going to see the real DNA ancestry of the ancient leaders given out to the public.

    That is why there are NO modern DNA-linked IQ tests being done.

    Ignorance is bliss say the Globalists.
     
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    Bananas don't have DNA, just sayin'.
     
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    The Egyptians are basically Africanised Arabs and the Arab people share genetic traits with white Europeans such as Haplogroup R1b, the most common Y-DNA haplogroup in Western Europe. Blacks in the West have an average IQ of 94-95, much higher than their African counterparts. It has more to do with the low levels of economic development in Africa rather than their biological nature that is responsible for low IQ scores in African countries.

     
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    Everything I have read show American Blacks with I.Q. of 85 sd 12, pretty stable for the last 50 years. African-Americans are generally about 20% White which explains the higher I.Q.
     
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    I got into differential equations but I don't remember a lot of it




    Yes 2 of math professors in college were black. 1 was for college algebra and there other was for calculus I


    Are you asking how I would find the derivative of X? Because that can be figured out in 1 google search. Otherwise you question doesn't have enough detail
     
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    UK Blacks 15 yrs 89.5
    Croatia 90
    Bosnia 90
    Albania 90
    UK Blacks 14 yrs 90.5
    Serbia 91
    UK Blacks 13 yrs 91.5
    Cyprus 91.5
    Chile 91.5
    Greece 92
    UK Blacks 12 yrs 92.5
    Macedonia 92.5
    Ireland 93
    Bulgaria 93
    Armenia 93.5
    UK Blacks 11 yrs 93.5
    Georgia 93.5
    Israel 94
    Romania 94
    Argentina 94.5
    UK Blacks 10 yrs 94.5
    Portugal 95
    Portugal 95
    Slovenia 95.5
    UK Blacks 9 yrs 95.5
    Moldova 95.5
    Uruguay 96
    Slovakia 96
    Malta 96
    Russia 96.5
    Belarus 96.5
    UK Blacks 8 yrs 96.5
    Ukraine 96.5
    Spain 97.5
    Czech Republic 97.5
    UK Blacks 7 yrs 97.5

    The average IQ of Black Britons could be as high as 97.5 and they are intellectually on a par with Eastern Europeans. Arthur Jensen came up with an average IQ of 94 for young African Americans.

     
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    Yes it does. You don't know any calculus. Answer is 1.
     
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    Blacks in Europe are generally elite well educated immigrants, not field hands like American Blacks.
     

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