What is wrong with abortion in the early stages of pregnancy?

ALmost all AMericans disagree. Nearly everyone opposes late term abortions, and half oppose any abortion.

Furthermore abortion is a homicide, and homicides are the business of society , not just a woman and her doctor/hitman.

 

Right .. thats why you have not repsonded to post where I took your one remaining argument in support of your claim and proved it false.

Just because the zygote will develop into a human does not make it a human at the time of conception.

Is a catapillar a butterfly, because every butterfly was a catapillar ? No
Is a heart cell, a heart, because every heart was once a heart cell? No

Because B developes from A .. does not mean that A=B

(1) If A=B, then B=A

Proof: A = zygote, B = a living human

By your logic .. If B develops from A then A = B zygote = a living human, by (1) then B= A

B does not equal A ... a living human is not a zygote... which shows your claim to be false.

 

We DO pay for the nations unwanted children...and the children of irresponsible teenagers and lazy or incompetent adults. We are the ones paying the taxes that pay for the health care, and the food and the shelter and the schooling of all these kids that are born. So that argument is out the window...if you sincerely believe that then why NOT vote for the PERSON not the party, since nothing will change anyway?

just by the by..we are ALSO the largest givers to charity.

Study some history, you will see that abortion was championed by people as a way to control minority birth rates...Libs don't brag about THAT part do they?

 

You have failed at every try to discredit ANY of my assertions, but dream on Junior.

Again with the nonsense that has been repeatedly proven wrong?
A zygote is a human being, period.

You have admitted that every human being is a zygote at one stage of development. That says it all.

 

You saying it is wrong does not prove it is wrong. You have repeatedly not given any proof for your assertions.

A human being develops from a zygote .. that does not mean that a human being "is" a zygote.

 

You have agreed with my primary assertion that every human being is a zygote in their earliest stage of development. Nothing more is needed.

You have actually proven yourself wrong on this.

 

You can dream and fantasize .. but you have never shown how "being a stage of the development of a human" = a living human

You are welcome to your opinion, but it would help if you could state "why" you think I have proven myself wrong.

 

If you don't understand simple logic I cannot help you!

AGAIN?

OK then. A human being is a human being from start to finish. We all know that a human being , ALL HUMAN BEINGS, start as a zygote.

Oh and BTW, it sure is nice of you to allow me to have my own opinion.

 

That big blue text and that graphic really add to your post.

Perhaps you could elaborate a little bit on your position. Is it a woman's choice to kill her born baby?

 

His "claim" (although I consider it to be more of a fact) is that a human being is a human being when it is a being and it is human. It's not rocket science.

 

When a person who enters a debate has to redfine commonly used words that have accepted definitions to mean something other than those definitions to make his argument work, He has lost the debate by a landslide.

 

I think it's an implied answer:

He seemed to concur.

 

Whaler can not seem to give a strait answer and repeatedly takes things out of context and relies on semantics so unfortunately .. "he seemed to concur" will not cut it.

A cell is "human" and it is a "being". Human is used as an adjective.
Whaler likes to use this to claim that a zygote is a human being. (noun)

This is why I use the term "a living human" to remove all confusion, and why Whaler does not like this term.

 

Now this is hilarious. The guy who says an organism who is a human and is alive , is not a living human, is accusing me of playing semantics games.

http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/search?q=define+adjective&qpvt=adjective+definition&FORM=DTPDIA

Definition of Adjective

"grammar word describing noun: a word that describes or qualifies a noun or pronoun"

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/zygote

"Definition of ZYGOTE
: a cell formed by the union of two gametes; broadly : the developing individual produced from such a cell "

"individual" is synonynmous with "person" or "human being" in this context.



So a zygote is an individual, and we use the word "human" as an adjective to describe this individual, thus indicating that a zygote is a human individual.


So explain again how a human individual is not a human being!

BTW, before you try to go there, "developing" is an adjective decribing the individual. So there is already and individual with a zygote, he/she is just decribed as developing. Infants are developing, as are toddlers, adolescents, and basically all other pre adult human beings.

SO, give me of these straight answers you speak so much of.

You make no sense when you use it, as described above. The confusion I want you to remove is your own!

 

I laughed out loud at this

Are you denying the fact that the zygote is a human? Just a few posts back you said:

I'm not quite getting your stance.

 

Good luck, it is completely illogical so I doubt even he gets it.

 

The definition does not say "human individual"

Regardless you are using a dictionary of common language usage rather than a scientific dictionary.

It is common language usage to refer to a pregnant woman as "with child" .. that does not mean that the child actually exists.

Here is a definition from a "biology" dictionary
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Zygote

And there we have it .. no individual, no use of the term "living human" or human being.

The definition here goes even further .. the zygote is not called an embryo.. but when it starts to divide and multiply it is called an embryo .. not an individual .. nor a human.

Since I have pointed this out to you numerous times, and you still continue on in denial,

Epic foolish fail .. would seem to apply.