What Rick Perry does right!

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  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Let's get one thing straight -- I'm not a big Perry supporter. He's a career politician and I'm not too sure that's what we need in DC. But there's another part of me that knows Rick Perry is capable of getting things done in the political system... and that part thinks maybe a seasoned politician is exactly what we need! IOW, I'm undecided. But I don't like the raw deal Perry's getting from the media... and therefore the people who believe everything they hear a talking head say.

    So this is a thread for what Perry does RIGHT. And believe me, there's a lot.

    Perry's been an interesting governor. Folks either love him or hate him... or pay him no mind. But one thing you very rarely hear is anybody complain about how he runs the state. Yeah, the vaccine thing was a big deal... and the only time I remember him doing something Texans were so opposed to. Didn't take long for him to reverse that decision... and admit he went overboard. His intentions were good... but so were Obama's when he crammed Obamacare down our throats, so that's no excuse. One screwup in 10 years isn't really that bad a record. But it's a great weapon for his opposition.

    Here's the reason we don't hear people complain about the state much... Perry's done an outstanding job of leading Texas through the economic mayhem of the last three years. Facts are facts.

    Jobs
    •The U.S. gained 103,000 nonfarm jobs in September 2011 compared to August 2011. The U.S. unemployment rate remained unchanged at 9.1 percent for September 2011.
    •Texas’ September 2011 unemployment rate was 8.5 percent, unchanged from August.
    •Texas total nonfarm employment increased by 15,400 jobs from August to September. Between September 2010 and September 2011, Texas gained 248,500 jobs.
    •The Texas unemployment rate has been at or below the national rate for 57 consecutive months.

    Housing
    •Thus far, Texas has weathered the national real estate crunch without significant damage to property values.
    •In September 2011, the Texas foreclosure rate was one in every 985 mortgages.
    •This was substantially better than Nevada’s one in 118, California’s one in 259, Arizona’s one in 305, and Utah’s one in 408.

    Taxes
    •Texas sales tax receipts for August 2011 were 11.9 percent higher than for August 2010.

    Stimulus Package
    •In Texas, an estimated $18 billion in federal stimulus money is flowing to state and local governments. The Comptroller’s office is tracking the $14.3 billion that comes through the state Treasury. The Comptroller’s analysis is ongoing. For the latest information, visit our ARRA Web site, A Texas Eye on the Dollars.

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    You can call me crazy... but these FACTS point to a well-run state and are much more important to me than his ability to perform in public like a well-trained monkey. Or whether he sweats. Or any of the other warped criteria the left uses to select leaders. The fact that Perry still has some supporters tells me I'm not the only one who's willing to give up rock star for solid performer. I wouldn't count him out just yet.

    And if he ends up on the GOP ticket, I'd vote for him in a heartbeat. ;)
     
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    He's a viable candidate. It's still so early - who knows. Romney is not a lock at this point.

    My dream ticket is Gingrich and Ron Paul, but I know that's not gonna happen.
    Gingrich is brilliant, and a Constitutionalist. Paul is the libertarian and Constitutionalist we respect. Together they would be great.
    Remember, the VP is the president of the Senate...can you imagine Paul presiding over the Senate on a daily basis as the Constitution intended? WOW, that would really be something.

    I'm not a big fan of Perry either, but I can live with him in the Presidency. Any Republican would be far better that Obama.
     
  3. Think for myself

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    Odd. It never sounded like that before.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/elect...erry-tx-revenues-bounce-back.html#post4548356
     
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    Used stimulus fund to plug a budget hole. Complained about the stimulus act.

    Worst unemployment in decades. Unemployment bounced up in August.

    Cut firefighters' budgets by 75% and then complained that the feds weren't doing enough to help fight the fires.
     
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    Most states did. What a misuse of funds....what a waste.
     
  6. MnBillyBoy

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    Typical Perry deal..cant stand up to face the questions so start up another thread..narrow the debate and snow ball the public..
    And for the record I despise what Perry stands for..how he came to power..and how he maintained power.
    I dont like it when he uses religion as a shield..
    Attacks others to deflect attention from his own weak areas..using emotions/Faith/religion.. not Fact check.

    He only gets money from a select few that he returns the favor by giving jobs to..that is a FACT CHECK reality..or in this case.. A ROLLING STONE gathers no Moss fact check.You can always attack the writer again.

    Sounds just like the guy we want to replace.
    So he shows up late to the dance..complains about he music..and says others are lousy dancers..

    Sorry That dog might hunt in Texas..but in the real world we say Bull poop.
     
  7. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Nobody said we were immune from national economic downturns.

    Regarding the stimulus... I'd venture to guess you cashed the $600 tax rebate check you got from the evil George Bush, didn't you? You can be against something without being a fool about it.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    At least we can follow the stimulus money once it hits Texas. How long did Biden's assignment to follow Obama's stimulus last? About two months? Til he realized he'd have to report on studies of shrimp on treadmills. They dropped that promise of transparency like a hot potato, didn't they?
     
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    I hope your version of America dies. Al Qaeda is preferable to you folks. You have no way of dealing with this level of division. Better a thousand years under the Chinese yoke than one more day under the leftist yoke.
     
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    I'll support any conservative other than Romney.
     
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    Hey Albert..

    Just for fun.

    What was Perry's record on the environmental and nuclear waste disposal in Texas?
    It wasn't mentioned for what he does Right..for a reason.
    Now compare that to Romney's record as Governor..
    Then explain how any tea party or conservative can back Perry ?
     
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    So attack the messenger..the delivery guy..and the poor dog handler..

    sorry ..but My guys record stands up to the Boston Globe..the GUN LOBBY itself..and other liberals and conservatives who looked and questioned everything since the 08 election process.
    Your so called ethically religious correct politician is so crony it hurts.
    He has been in the field for less than 2 months..Romney since 08.

    Now your guy sucks at debate..then ducks and runs for cover..
    and he did use religion as a shield..and as a religious person I resent the HELL out of that.
    I hate liars and cheats..and Perry for what he did For the Nuclear Dump in Texas and the so called toll road to be build by a Spanish company is so illegal in method and practice.\\The tea Party should be boiling him in tea..not endorsing him.
    Up north In Minnesota we used to tar and feather snake oil salesmen like Perry not elect them Governor.
    Believe it or not ..Texas..is not the shining city on a hill.. most others call it the other Oklahoma..:omg:
    But most of my kin come from Arkansas...so whatever..:)
    So keep up with the Perry campaign delivery ..say it enough you can almost believe it.
     
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    It's always quality to be first when beating the retreat.

    You have to give them that. Women think differently.
     
  15. Smartmouthwoman

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    Obviously you choose to skip over the part about the current economic indicators in Texas. Doesn't fit in with your nitpicking, does it?
     
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    Romney's a Conservative?
     
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    If the shoe fits...you are the messenger after all as you haven't really referenced anything and you have nothing to back up your claims.

    If Americans are smart they will disregard the straw man arguments you throw out and go with experience and a proven track record, if that's Perry, so be it.

    But even a moron has to concede this incompetent slithering misfit with a universe sized ego isn't working....all those, of course who haven't been into the Kool-aid
     
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    None of the candidates like the confines of the debates. First off, there are way too many candidates right now and the 1 minute answer and 30 second rebuttal is laughable. Even Cain was complaining the other day; so it's not just Perry. He's right.....their time is better spent actually talking to the people. So, the fact he might not make all the numerous scheduled debates between now and primary election is no big deal, IMO. Nothing has been learned from them anyway.

    On the vaccine for girls......once again, it had an opt-out provision. That's no different than any other vaccine we give nowadays. I know several people who have chosen NOT to vaccinate their children because they fear autism. The people who objected were mostly the far right Christians who seemed to believe that a 12 year old having this vaccine would make them sexually promiscuous...and then the politically-motivated liberals who want to find fault with all Perry does, no matter what it is. That was laughable on it's face. Why is it libs don't mind talking to young kids in school about condoms...and even passing them out......and don't believe that causes promiscuity, but this does???? The Guardasil is meant to ultimately save lives and that's the only reason for it. It doesn't work unless given to young girls BEFORE they become sexually active. This is all a bunch of hoopla over nothing. We've had the swine flu shot which was controversial given in schools. We've had the polio vaccine back in the early 50's given in schools and it was controversial too. But in all cases, no one was FORCED to take the shot. End of story.

    The in-state tuition for illegal residents has been explained sufficiently. They were listed as residents when they graduated from our public schools (which, BTW, I don't hear anyone claiming that we should deny the children our public schools) They have to fulfill certain requirments before getting it too......they have to have been a resident for at least 3 years, have graduated from one of our high shools, and be working towards becomming a citizens. And at least on the in-state tuition, they are paying for their own educations....whereas on the public schools lower levels, we the taxpayers are paying for it. Virtually every state allows them into their public schools......so why no complaint there?

    Oh, and BTW, anyone can do the same thing in just about any state. If I move to Oklahoma for the purpose of attending their university, I must pay out-of-state tuition. However, if I establish residency there, fulfilling the requirements that have for establishing reisdency that qualifies for in-state tuition,then I'm allowed to pay it.

    It's the federal government....not the states....who has failed in securing our borders which has resulted in the influx of unknown numbers of illegal immigrants living in our country. And until they do, there is only so much a state can do.
     
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    Minnesota, like California, is practically a socialist state....with high taxes to pay for it all. How can you stand it there?
     
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    That part about cutting fire deparments funds by 75% is hogwash. The fire deparments and salaries are paid for by the various localities. Much of the rural parts of Texas have Volunteer fire departments who work off of donations from the people who live their and maybe some grants occassionally to buy equipment. During the fires this year, many Texas reisdents like myself made donations to the Texas Forest Service who in turn donated equipment and funds to those volunteer departments in particular.....because more fires were being fought than normal. BTW, my brother is a firefighter----has been for many, many years....and under Perry's Governorship, his salary has never been cut and he has the best equipment their is.....and a great retirement plan. He gets paid by the city where he works; not by the state in the first place. Perhaps everyone should get their facts straight first before spouting off???
     
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    I posted a NON partisan revue..of his/Perry's record history of cronyism..lack of moral judgement ..his flips and flops that make Romney look like a STAUNCH guy etched in Granite.But if this is a left attack..count on plenty of the same if Perry wins the nomination.. think the nation will support this ?
    Lets tale my environmental claim I asked Albert to look into
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    "Perry's entire career as governor is marked by a history of similar handouts to his top donors. In 2005, he signed an executive order to speed approval for 17 new coal-fired power plants that would drive the state's carbon footprint past that of Florida, California and New York combined. Eleven of the plants were slated to be built by TXU, a million-dollar donor. Then there was the chicken-farming king Lonnie Pilgrim, who once handed out $10,000 checks on the floor of the Texas legislature in advance of a bill; he gave more than $600,000 to the governor and his causes, and Perry repaid the favor by petitioning the EPA for a waiver of federal ethanol mandates, which had jacked up the price of corn feed for Pilgrim's business.

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-little-whore-in-texas-20111026#ixzz1cB3IJr92

    But you say where's the nuclear waste go ?
    Yucca Mountain ?
    No Texas..right next to the water.

    Quote..

    For starters, a group of Perry appointees on the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality gave Simmons a license to build his hazardous nuke dump, even after the TCEQ's own team of scientists agreed that the project was too risky, given how dangerously close it lies to the Ogalalla aquifer, which provides drinking water for seven states.

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-little-whore-in-texas-20111026#ixzz1cB5QMD6E

    More you say..it gets better..
    Quote..
    The specific spot I'm looking for is a giant hole in the ground – one of the nation's largest repositories of nuclear waste. The facility is run by a company called Waste Control Specialists, the creature of a shadowy billionaire named Harold Simmons, who was one of the single largest financial backers of the Swift-boat campaign against John Kerry, donating more than $3 million.

    Chew on that for a moment: The Kerry smear campaign was powered in large part by radioactive waste – or, more specifically, by the fat government contracts to store such waste that were swallowed up by Simmons, a supposedly "anti-government" extremist who, naturally, is one of Rick Perry's biggest supporters.
    The Perry-Simmons nuclear landfill is surrounded by giant piles of red clay rising up out of the desert, flanked by huge manmade chasms designed to hold sand-covered drums of sizzling waste. A person entering its gates feels an irresistible urge to wear lead underpants. It's a terrifying sight, but it's even more disturbing as a symbol of Rick Perry's style of government. In Perry's Texas, state regulation doesn't work because regulatory seats can be bought, and the free market doesn't work because connections and influence matter more than competition and performance. The landfill run by Perry's pals at Waste Control Specialists represents an extreme example of both dysfunctional ends of the governor's approach to government, a taxpayer-financed hole in the ground that is as extremely unsafe as it is woefully uneconomic. "The WCS plant," says Lon Burnam, a Texas state representative, "is the ultimate example of Perry's crony capitalism."

    Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-little-whore-in-texas-20111026#ixzz1cB59i1Pj
     
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    It's hard to believe you don't understand a hack entertainment writer for the Rolling Stone is not a credible source. Speaks volumes about your political savvy... or lack thereof.

    BTW, who is 'your guy?'
     
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    Excellent posts, JP. There's no reason to believe Rick Perry couldn't do for our country what he's done for our state. Those who claim to want someone who knows how to grow small businesses and create jobs, yet turn their backs on Perry because of how he 'performs' on stage are very short-sighted. I hate it that many of those are Republicans.

    I'll vote for Romney if he ends up on the GOP ticket. But in my opinion, his track record isn't nearly as impressive as Perry's.

    Facts are facts.
     
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    what perry has done right for texas has been destructive to the country so he is not a good candidate for president but state politician only

    lowering taxes to attract businesses away from liberal states to further bankrupt them in this time of need creates a bigger problem for a country that should be united and he will divide us

    the liberal states pay the most to the country so eventually texas will be forced to pay higher taxes so all he did was relocate business and help his state but at the expense of the nation
     
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    LOL, luv the logic, LM. So it's Perry's fault Texas hasn't suffered like, say, California? Got it. You should think of writing for the Rolling Stone! ;)
     

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