What's best for Earth?

At a Passover meal there is the part about replying to a question to four children of different nature.
And each gets a different reply appropriate to their nature.
You got the same courtesy.

"Study more."
Is appropriate to your nature.


Take the "Last Word" if you must.
Says a lot about one's nature.


Moi

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Let me guess ... you live in a temperate zone? Some place it snows now and then?

Try living in a place which regularly saw 100 degree days before global warming - and is now seeing 115 degree days. I guarantee that when you live in such a place you would never celebrate any kind of 'warming'.

 

No kind of clothing is going to keep you alive at 115+ if you're trying to engage in normal working-day levels of activity. All you can do is cower indoors from dawn to dusk, not moving. Exertion of any kind is quite dangerous at that temp.

 

We cannot 'live and thrive' at 120 degrees. We can however, live and thrive at 20 degrees.

 

Improve beyond First World level? That's what got us into this horrendous pickle in the first place. We should be trying to reduce our 'standard of living'.

 

What do you advocate for, specifically?

 

No one 'wants' to, but it may be the price paid for continuation of the species.

 

More nothing ??

 

What places are those ???

 

Which places are now at 120 F due to global warming ??? Even at the predicted IPCC CO2 sensitivity of 3 degrees C the rate of increase of temperature is 0.03 degrees C per year.

 

You are against developing nations improving their standard of living ?? You think third world nations should reduce their standard of living ??

 

Why would anyone believe that ^^^ ??? Absurd.

 

My country. Iraq (I have friends there who are now getting temps of 50c in summer). Africa. Lots of places.

We're also experiencing horrific drought, and the consequent dust storms and fires that go with that.

 

I can't speak to numbers, but it's pretty clear that we can only hold so many before we reach tipping point.

 

I never said that. I believe we should be lowering our standard of living so that they can improve theirs. We need to come down to meet them, not the other way around - that would be unsustainable.

 

There is no population question.

 

That's ridiculous. Why should we go back to horse and buggy days ??

 

What's clear about that ?? What is the tipping point ??

 

What towns are they located in ?? Where are the droughts being experienced ??

 

My own country. We've just experienced the hottest Spring on record, we're in drought, and we're being consumed by vast fires - some of which are the size of small countries. They burn for months at a time. Try living in a place where it almost never rains, it's close to or above 100 degrees every day, and the smoke haze is so thick you can't see more than a couple of hundred metres. And do it for weeks at a time. Let's see how you feel about climate change once you've experienced that for a year or two.

 

Baghdad

Australia

 

What town do you live in ?? There are places in the US where the maximum temperature exceeds 100 F every day in the summer months. In Arizona it never rains in the summer months. It's been that way for centuries.